Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - ifithelps

It's Easter weekend and I saw a motorhome towing a VW Polo using a rigid bar. Clearly, the owner wants to use the car at his destination, so he could be towing it a long way. I worked in a recovery garage 20-odd years ago and we were told the rigid bars were only suitable for short runs - dragging a broken down car back to be repaired. Apart from anything else, the motorhome driver cannot see the towed car in his mirrors. Surely this cannot be safe?

Edited by BorisTheSpider on 09/12/2010 at 09:11

Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - PhilW
I think that I have also seen considerable discussion (on here?) as to whether or not it is actually legal to do this. The law itself may be unclear....?
Anyone know the answer?
Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - zookeeper
its a bit like putting the cart before the horse in a way... a bit un -nerving to say the least. any way happy bank holiday folks have a gooden ... i'm having the luxury of being a passenger in a rebuilt isetta on a trip around the derbyshire peaks on sunday , look out for us were stopping at matlock for a breather about noon
Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - Dynamic Dave
No different to towing a trailer, horsebox, cavaran, etc. The link between said vehicles and the towing vehicle itself have rigid bars connecting the two together.
Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - ifithelps
DD, in your exam[les the driver of the towing vehicle can see what's being towed in his mirrors/back window.

The motorhome driver towing a car must be towing 'blind'.

I also wonder if a coachbuilt Transit or whatever is a suitable for towing anything much heavier than a shopping trolley.
Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - Dynamic Dave
DD The motorhome driver towing a car must be towing 'blind'.


ifithelps, the same could be said of people towing caravans, trailers, etc. Even when they can see what they're towing behind them, their driving would indicate otherwise. Pedantic comments aside, some trailers are that small that they cannot be seen by the driver who is towing them. Also, who's to say that the motorhome doesn't have a CCTV system on board to observe who or what is behind him?

I used to quite often see a motorhome travelling up and down the A34 (Newbury -> Abingdon, and beyond) towing a Polo. Maybe it's the same one?
Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - ifithelps
I used to quite often see a motorhome travelling up and down the A34 (Newbury
-> Abingdon and beyond) towing a Polo. Maybe it's the same one?


DD, this one was on the A1 at Scotch Corner in North Yorks travelling south earlier this evening.

The motorhome could be in Newbury by now, as for the Polo, well, that could be in any ditch along the way and I don't suppose the motorhome driver would know.

(Apologies for a labouring a point - must be getting risk averse in my old age.)
Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - Dynamic Dave
DD this one was on the A1 at Scotch Corner in North Yorks travelling south
earlier this evening.


I did say used to see quite often on the A34. If by chance it is the same one then that would suggest nothing untoward mechanically has happened to the Polo with all that towing, and neither has it broken loose from its towing frame.

I don't really see why you consider it to any more unsafe or dangerous than towing anything else. Providing it's tethered to the towing vehicle securely then it's no more unsafe than towing anything else. Can't ever recall any mention of accidents in the press or on the TV news caused by stray runaway car's that have detached themselves from the motorhome towing them.

You occasionally see the council / builders in their transit flatbed trucks towing small generators or compressors? They cannot be seen by the transit driver. Is this equally unsafe / dangerous?

Edited by Dynamic Dave on 21/03/2008 at 01:23

Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - ifithelps
DD,

In a post after your last one, Screwloose - fairly well respected for his technical knowledge I understand - calls it a 'disaster waiting to happen'.

One person's opinion, as is mine and yours. If we a took a vote, more people on this forum appear to favour your view than mine.

I've never heard of an accident caused by this arrangement, either.

Maybe the answer to the original question is, as you say: 'As safe as towing anything else.'

Still won't stop me dropping back from, or overtaking, any motorhome I see towing a car.

One thing's for sure, I don't think me and thee are ever going to agree on this one.
Perhaps it's time to call it a score draw and walk away.





Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - Screwloose

Presumably this was an A-frame arrangement? As a Polo must be over 750kg; then over-run brakes [or a substitute] would be legally required.

Having spent many happy days trying to make such a system work effectively; it's quite possible that this didn't have such a system and, as the straps to the lower arms will indeed chafe on a long run, it's a disaster waiting to happen.
Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - Number_Cruncher
>>trying to make such a system work effectively

The vital thing will be setting the gain of the system, i.e., the ratio of drawbar compression to trailer brake force - the aim is a gain of one, but always making sure you stay under 1.

Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - pmh
As a quick thought, does it matter if the 'ratio' is greater than 1 if the ABS is operative on the towed vehicle? Also 'the damping factor and 'time constant' of the feedback must be important, but I will leave you to do the maths!

When my BX went, the guy who took it had a home made A frame with a bowden oprated actuator to the brake pedal. Definately illegal, because as a BX he had to have the engine running on the towed car, to give him any brakes. I also suspect the biggest risk was the towed car overheating and stalling and hence losing brakes. I know that he had sucessfully towed like that for quite some time.


Edited by pmh on 20/03/2008 at 20:14

Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - bathtub tom
The 'A' frames I've seen used to tow behind motorhomes are rigidly fixed to a frame mounted on the towed car. There used to be companies that specialised in doing this. AFAIK the brakes on the towed car were not used.
Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - Screwloose

After a court case involving the RAC, the law was clarified to prohibit the use of unbraked A-frames on vehicles over 750kg - no matter what the weight of the towing vehicle.

Those Bowden cable arrangements were introduced to get around that ruling and were exactly what I was working on - I'm now fairly confident that it's virtually impossible to make such a system work effectively.
Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - Number_Cruncher
>>does it matter if the 'ratio' is greater than 1

If the gain is larger than 1, the brakes will tend to grab, and the system will tend towards instability, if it's much less than 1, then the trailer brakes won't be particulalry effective.

I have designed similar systems, albeit rotational rather than translational, where lockup was the desired outcome, and gains above 1 were required.

As the brakes offer a route by which energy is removed from the system, at low gains, they tend to provide all the damping you might ever need. The time constant for the feedback depends upon how heavily loaded the trailer is - for heavy loads, the trailer system has a lower longitudinal natural frequency, and this is inverserly related to the feedback time.

Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - PhilW
Some interesting points in this article
www.ukcampsite.co.uk/articles/view.asp?id=18
and a heck of a lot here
www.motorhomefacts.com/ftopic-39142.html
and this appears at
www.ntta.co.uk/faq/default.htm (National Trailer and Towing Association)

I have a motor home and want to tow a Fiat Seicento behind it using an A-frame. This car has a kerb weight under 750 kg so am I legal with this outfit?
Sorry no is the answer. The law regards this as an unbraked trailer and you are allowed to tow up to 750 kg Gross Trailer Weight, not a car?s kerb weight. The figure you have to use is the car?s Gross Vehicle Weight or Maximum Permitted Weight. This is usually at least 300 - 400 kg more than the kerb weight. We have no knowledge of any car sold in the UK that has a GVW under 750 kg. The only vehicle we know that is completely legal to tow with an A-frame is the French Aixam small "car". This is a full four seater and details can be obtained from Aixam UK on 01926 886100. An A-frame or dolly can only be used to recover a broken down vehicle to a place of safety. Transporting a car is, therefore, illegal. A-frames may be offered with a braking system that applies the car's brakes. These do not conform to the law as the car then becomes a "braked trailer" and has to conform to European Directives contained within the Construction and Use Regulations. It does not conform to the European Directive 71/320/EEC and amendments regarding braking requirements in any way. The use of this A-frame for transportation is illegal. It is still OK for use to recover a vehicle to a place of safety.


Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - ifithelps
PhilW,

Had a look at some of the links - thanks for digging them out.

Seems to me there are a lot of motorhomers out there trying to justify doing something that is at best barely legal/open to interpretation.

Can't any of them accept what in my opinion is obvious - it's dangerous.
Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - Manatee
Can't any of them accept what in my opinion is obvious - it's dangerous.


Why?

The point about Gross Trailer Weight is a legal one, not a practical one if the actual weight of the car is <=750k.

The towing vehicale is generally much heavier than the "trailer".

The "trailer" especially if on for wheels is inherently much more stable than a typical caravan.

It is generally known that these arrangements are illegal in the UK and I am sure the majority of people doing it know this; however I believe they are acceptable elsewhere and there are a lot of people doing it. The last two I saw were Smarts.

As to the driving "blind" what does this mean? If the driver has a view behind from the side mirrors, what's the problem whether or not he/she can see the car directly behind and attached - they know it's there?
Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - ifithelps
As to the driving "blind" what does this mean? If the driver has a view
behind from the side mirrors what's the problem whether or not he/she can see the
car directly behind and attached - they know it's there?

Manatee,

All I mean by towing blind is the driver of the towing vehicle cannot see what he is towing.
He has to rely on 'feel' and I just think, for example, if the towed car became detached as the motorhome was bowling down the motorway at 60mph the driver would hardly know.
Surely, anyone who tows something relies at least partly for safety on keeping an eye on what is being towed in the rear view mirror?

I take your point as regards the stability of the rig.

I guess the fact the motorhome driver barely knows the car is there either detracts or adds to my dangerousness argument, depending on your point of view.


Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - Manatee
Fair enough. Seeing it might not make any difference to whether it detaches or not, but I confess I like to keep an eye on my trailer - especially the tyres.
Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - Screwloose

A further point to the lack of vision; how would the driver know if the car starts to break away from the A-frame? It's not common for a conventional rigid trailer to start disintegrating en-route.

While a recovery A-frame is strapped to the lower arms - and isn't suited to much more than a few miles; if firms are selling mounting kits that fix to the car, how do the manufacturers feel about that?

Modern car designers pare weight down to the barest minimum. No car is going to be designed with trailing in mind; the frontal structure is therefore being stressed in ways that were never intended - and some of those pressings are paper-thin and would fail rapidly once cracks appeared.

I was amused by the notion of printing-off and carrying that dubious resume with the intention of arguing the case at the roadside. In my experience, VOSA examiners are not that chatty and would simply look, hand you the prohibition notice and walk away - charges to follow.
Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - ifithelps
Screwloose,

When I worked in recovery I recall the first job we did with our new A frame was to use a Jag XJ6 to recover a Jag XJ6.

After detaching the propshaft - don't want to seize the autobox, do we? - I was detailed to sit in the towed car because none of us knew what would happen.

I was fascinated by the way its steering wheel turned as if it was driving itself.

Plus, I've never been so close to the car in front at 70mph!

Those two Jags drove pretty much as one, but I still say A frames are only suitable for breakdown work.
Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - Screwloose
IIH

Oh, they work OK; I've used them numerous times - it's just the thought of the motorhome numpties that use them without a thought for the law - and what might happen if they fail.

A good friend lost his wife when a trailer with a 2" hitch came off a 50mm ball....
Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - PhilW
"It is generally known that these arrangements are illegal in the UK and I am sure the majority of people doing it know this; however I believe they are acceptable elsewhere and there are a lot of people doing it."

Not legal anywhere in EU - does "a lot of people doing it" make it acceptable? Must remember that excuse if I am done for doing 80 on the motorway, or next time I get a parking ticket!! ;-)

"it's just the thought of the motorhome numpties that use them without a thought for the law - and what might happen if they fail."

Interesting to juxtapose with Manatee's point above.

Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - Manatee
Not legal anywhere in EU - does "a lot of people doing it" make it
acceptable? Must remember that excuse if I am done for doing 80 on the motorway
or next time I get a parking ticket!! ;-)


I'm not condoning, even less recommending it, and FWIW I haven't a motorhome either. It just seems unlikely to me that it's materially dangerous - like doing 80mph, it presumably can be done dangerously but generally isn't.

The trailer regs clearly didn't consider this - it might have been better if they had, then there would have been a legal way to do it and the more dangerous set-ups could be excluded.
Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - henry k
>>All I mean by towing blind is the driver of the towing vehicle cannot see what he is towing.
>>He has to rely on 'feel' and I just think, for example, if the towed car became detached as the motorhome was bowling down the motorway at 60mph the driver would hardly know.
>>
I had this sort of thing happen a few years ago.
Driving a 5.3 Jaguar and towing a very low trailer with not a great weight at about 60mph on a quiet motorway in Spain, a trailer tyre had a blow out.
The tyre shreaded, hit the muguard, buckled it so that it jammed the wheel and that caused the rim to be ground away while I carried on with it not having much effect on 5.3 performance. My friend in convoy ahead spotted it as a shower of sparks.
It certainly left a long long groove in the motorway.

Fortunately no one came to harm.
Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - Cliff Pope
I once helped the owner of a motorhome business deliver stock to a show. There were two kinds of towing arrangements in use:

1) the towed vehicle sat on its own wheels, with a device coupling its steering linkage to the towing dolly so that it followed the towing vehicle.

2) the front wheels sat on a special dolly which had its own wheels. This was used to tow quite heavy loads - I remember one camper pulling another, smaller one, by this method.

The question arises as to which component is actually the "trailer". If the towing dolly has over-run brakes, does that mean the "trailer" is regarded as braked, albeit only on the front wheels?
Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - b308
Not so sure about the constant referencies to these people being "numpties" - no-one has checked to see if they have actually researched it and if their set-ups are safe - just wild assumptions that they are unsafe... a little unfair, I feel...

Now if you want numpties in this respect they were mentioned earlier - and I'm sure we've all seen them - cowboy builders driving their Transit at 80mph with a generator attached to the back that they definitely can't see, is weaving all over the place and bouncing up and down at the same time...

I'd be after them before some guys driving a Motorhome at a lot slower pace and, from what I've seen of them, in a lot safer manner...

Or is it just an excuse to have a go at motorhome/carravaners??
Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - PhilW
"a little unfair, I feel..."
Except that, from my reading of links above, it is illegal - though I could well be wrong. I wonder what their insurance company would say if there was an accident?

"an excuse to have a go at caravanners??"
Nope, I'm not much into self-abuse!!!
Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - b308
Fair enough - looking at a google search it would seem as though its definitely illegal, though:

"It is well known that some countries in the EEC tend to overlook the regulations (the UK included) but some countries don?t. The situation regarding enforcement could change at any time and, as a result, the only safe way to transport another vehicle behind a motorhome is on a car transporter trailer. Play safe! Don?t take the risk!"

says an awful lot - a small two wheeled trailer for something like a Smart wouldn't take up too much room, though!, could even store it sideways on the site!

I'd still rather the Police clamp down on those builders and others that go shooting past me a 80mph on the motorways with trailers swinging along behind them - they are far more dangerous than the OAPs that tend to drive the Motorhomes.... (oops another generalisation....!)...

Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - Screwloose
Cliff

Towing dollies are another can of worms; but can be legal if used and equipped correctly.

b308

Yes; it was indeed me that referred to them as numpties. I find a significant proportion of motorhome owners are from the shallow end of the gene pool, are frighteningly gullible and seem to have far too much time and resources to spend on yet more worthless tat to further encumber their primary obsession.

Little wonder that unscrupulous traders home in on them and easily con them into believing that it's possible to durably attach an A-frame to a modern car - and that it's legal to do so.

Your point on builders' similarly cavalier attitude to trailers is also very true. About 20 years ago, a lovely young lady colleague, mother of twins, left her job at Polegate AA box, just after dark, to drive only a mile home. A freshly-detached, unlit, builder's trailer lying across the middle of the A22 ensured that she didn't make it.

So, after losing two friends to careless hitching; forgive me for having a bit of a bee in my bonnet about trailer safety.
Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - Glaikit Wee Scunner {P}
No idea of the legality, but I have seen the big Winnebago type motorhomes towing little cars such as Fiat Pandas.
Maybe these behemoths are classified as HGVs and different regulations apply?
Certainly a different driving licence is needed AFAIK.In a specialist magazine I even saw a motorhome with a car in an integral garage!

Edited by Glaikit Wee Scunner {P} on 22/03/2008 at 11:05

Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - SlidingPillar
Doubt it. I know a chap who used to use a converted coach to transport his stock car and the rest of it was motor home. He was assured by the police the vehicle in question was legal as a motor home, could be driven on his car licence yet as anyone who has read a coach weight details, had a GVW in excess of 7.5 tonnes by quite a lot. He did actually get an HJV licence as the matter still concerned him.

AFAIK the regulations on motorhomes still allow this, although I've not looked into it as I've no wish to drive one!
Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - b308
I used to travel around with Graham Blundell in the 70s in his converted coach - I'm sure he said they needed an HGV licence for it, but not a PSV!
Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - Cliff Pope
You sometimes see travelling fairs pulling a string of assorted trailers and caravans, often ending with a car. I know they probably have to have a special (HGV?) licence to drive it, but that is not the same thing necessarily as it being safe.
Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - Screwloose
Cliff

I believe that the extensive "Showman's Haulage" exemptions come with a 20 mph speed limit - I'm not certain if the 750kg unbraked limit applies to their train of trailers, but it certainly does to a normal Goods vehicle.

They are also, usually, extremely practical people who are well able to make sure that their trailers are securely attached - and, to keep their LCV C+E [HGV 1] licences, they make sure that they stay that way.

Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - b308
Just to go back to the original post - just how many of these cars have actually come adrift from a motorhome, if any?

Or are we more likely to get hit by an uninsured driver.....
Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - ifithelps
No one has posted to say they've seen or heard of a car coming adrift from a motorhome.

Towing this way appears no more dangerous than any other form of towing, so I would guess you are much more likely to be hit by an uninsured driver, or even an insured one!
Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - Paul I
Whilst the concensus is to suggest it is illegal it has to said lots have been sold and enough time gone past to see if lots of incidents have happened. One of the things that also should be pointed out is that these are fitted to commercial based vehicles where chassis and brake set up is quite substantial.
Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - Screwloose

The crucial difference with this set-up is that the entire braking force of an, illegally over-weight, unbraked trailer is passing through a detachable A-frame with cobbled-together, inadequate, mountings.

The A-frame on a normal trailer is an integrated part of the structure and designed as such. The design for the front members of a car has no consideration for such destructive stresses.

On a motorhome with a long overhang, which is most of them, the front of the car is first wrenched one way and then the other on every corner; the perfect recipe to fracture sheet steel.
Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - Happy Blue!
I must admit that I would be unhappy at being behind a typical European motor home towing a car. I'm thinking of something like a Cit/Pug/Fiat chassis with a lightweight skin to provide the carcass of the motorhome section. In the US, I have seen much larger vehicles (RVs) towing a small Honda and that always looks to be perfectly reasonable.

I met a guy who was buying a larger Merc chassised motorhome with an integral garage. He was toying between a short tall garage suitable for a Smart, or a long low garage suitable for an MX5. Very very expensive!
Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - Pugugly
When I was out with the dogs earlier, there was one of these American behemoths (on an UK C plate) parked up in a beauty spot car-park obviously overnighting with no regard to the locality. There was a Pug 106 hooked up to the rear with an A frame. There was a suspicious looking liquid discharging from one corner of he van, a Tesco bag full of rubbish underneath its front axle, will check to see tomorrow if they've left it behind. No doubt stocked up to the ginnals with food from their own local supermarket where it took up a fair proportion of the car-park. In other words visiting my little corner of the world contributing nothing and taking a lot.

In answer to ifithelps I feel that there is more chance of being struck by an insured or uninsured car than a wayward ex-towed vehicle from behind one of these, simply because, thankfully, the horrid anti-social things are rare and I hope they're taxed to extinction.
Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - ifithelps
. In other words visiting my little corner of the world contributing nothing and taking
a lot.


PU,

Reminds me of an unguarded remark made a few years ago by someone tasked with promoting tourism in the north of England.

When asked about caravanners, he said something like: 'They bring a clean shirt, a £10 note, and change neither.'

A little bit of holiday-related humour for an Easter Monday.
Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - ifithelps
Don't wish to rake over old ground, but I saw a good one today.

It was a motorhome towing a Smart car on an A-frame with the brake lights of the Smart wired to come on with the brake lights of the motorhome.

Clever, I thought.
Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - Bill Payer
Don't wish to rake over old ground but I saw a good one today.
It was a motorhome towing a Smart car on an A-frame with the brake lights
of the Smart wired to come on with the brake lights of the motorhome.

In the US there's a device sold which presses the brake pedal on the towed car (so that would turn the brake light on) although such a device seems OTT for a Smart!
Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - ifithelps
BP,

Must say I hadn't thought the Smart's brakes might be on as well.

Do you mean a hydraulic rod like a Krooklok?

I wonder how it's actuated.

There wouldn't be much braking power without the servo.

OTT for a Smart? I should have mentioned it was a four door - practically a limo.
Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - b308
There wouldn't be much braking power without the servo.


There isn't much braking power in a single axle caravan either if you compare the braking ability of a car to that of a caravan - the majority of braking is done by the towing vehicle in most car/trailer set-ups, thats why the larger the car the better braking there will be - I suspect that a "mobile home" will have sufficient braking capability for something as small as a Smart hitched on the back...

I suspect that the "push on effect" of that set-up would be less than in most car/caravan combinations you see out on the roads...

Edited by b308 on 19/04/2008 at 10:38

Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - Bill Payer
I wonder how it's actuated.

This is what I was thinking of (there are others too):
www.brakebuddy.com/
Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - ifithelps
BP,

Thanks for that.

Looks like the answer is remote control, although I'm still not entirely sure what the driver does.
Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - hawkpete
A few years back in Idaho a car pulled behind a motor home blew a tire. The driver could not see it, and did not realize that he was throwing sparks for nearly a mile before someone got him stopped. The wildfire that was created by those sparks cost millions of dollars to fight. Safe? I kinda think not.
Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - bell boy
vosa man told me last week that to comply with current legislation with front raised wheels off the ground on a towing dolly someone should be in the broken down car operating the brakes
i will have to ask him next time how the recovery services get away with their towing dollies in the back,i wonder if they have a max distance set down by law
Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - Dave_TD
with the brake lights of the Smart wired to come on with the brake lights of the motorhome


I once saw a similar arrangement on a customer's Fiesta. I noticed two metal brackets at ankle height on the front of the car and a 7-pin trailer socket next to the front number plate. When I asked him what they were for (I was thinking perhaps an old Kenlowe coolant heater) he told me it was for towing behind his motorhome. The trailer socket was wired into the Fiesta's rear lights so that brakes, indicators, tail and even reverse and fog lights mimicked those on the towing vehicle - he just hooked it up, fixed the motorhome's numberplate over the Fiesta's own, and off he went. I didn't look underneath to see how solid the towing frame mountings were though....

And IIRC most transit-type vans have a GVW of 3500kg and a GTW of 5500kg, not sure about the law regarding braked/unbraked trailers though. When I drove a Transit for a plant hire firm we had to tow a variety of equipment and trailers around (the van was equipped with a tachograph) but different rules applied to towable plant (ie compressors, temporary traffic light generators and tower lights) than to trailers (even dedicated trailers such as those carrying mini-diggers or pipe-bursting rigs). I would imagine most motorhome owners (and possibly dealers) are just following the majority without researching the law too thoroughly.

Dave TD.

PS If it was an old Polo it wouldn't have had servo brakes anyway ;-)
Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - Dave_TD
how the recovery services get away with their towing dollies in the back


I think the important phrase in the legislation covering those would be their use for carrying a "disabled mechanically propelled vehicle".
Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - 1400ted
A good friend of mine called a couple of years ago with his 6 wheel Hymer towing a Smart on an A frame. I don't think there was any problem with power or safety but as he drove away I saw that the front wheels of the Smart were trying to turn one way and then being dragged back to try and go the other way...a sort of 'shimmying' . I don't think a driver would be aware of this.

Must cause damage and expense to tyres, surely ?

Ted
Is towing a car behind a motorhome safe? - Peter D

Many drivers caught out by this. Note they you can loose a trialer extention to your licence when it runs out for renewal.

direct.gov

Regards Peter

Edited by SteveMegson on 09/12/2010 at 09:57

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