hi all,this is my first time posting on this site, the site is class.
my problem is I have just bought a mondeo tdci and am sorry now, with the reports posted makes me worry, its a 04 tdci mondeo 130,are they that poor.
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They are absolutely terrible cars
Sell it immediately, to me
I'll offer you £100 for it, they're so bad that's all they're really worth.
Alternatively keep it, put 38k miles on it in 16 months and enjoy the 47mpg if you've a leaden right foot as I've done with mine. That's with a car that already had 99l miles on it when I got it. They are mostly very reliable, however should problems arise with the fuel system then realize that its so complex that many ford dealers aren't capable of accurately diagnosing faults.
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They are mostly very reliable though there are absolutely loads around so inevitably a reasonable number of problems get reported.
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Don't worry ! You have just happened upon a website that contains a few contributors who seem to be virtual decendents of Pvt. Fraser from "Dad's Army"......... " Aye ...we're all dooooomed ! " ;-)
Your car will almost certainly be fine and a pleasure to own for many miles and years to come.
As Cheddar points out, the law of averages has a lot to do with this.
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Don't panic. They are generaly very reliable & excellent for high milage & a comfortable family car. There has been a pattern to the diesel injection system failing on some cars but you have to remember there are thousands of mondeos out there. It doesn't help that ford dealers in there wisdom appear to have little knowledge of TDCI technoledgy & look for any way to escape any form of warranty. I have had numerous TDC'is myself including 2.0 ltr & 2.2 & covered up to 70,000 miles a year with no problem whatsoever including an awfull lot of towing in europe & have proved far more reliable than certain makes of prestigious cars that I have run in the past for commuting 250 miles a day. Should yours prove troublesome in the fuel department you would be well recommended to take it to a diesel specialist & take there advice & yes you may land a big bill but i think that could happen with a loss you incurr if you sell again.I have always belived that if you treat a car with respect it will pay you back in the reliability department.
I have never had a DMF fail iether but i avoid jack rabbit starts, kangarooing by being in a too higher gear at slow speed & I don't change gear abruptly. I have been out for a drive with some clients to see how they drive when I have had to replace a DMF in our workshop & cringe at what they do, & then they wonder why the failures.
Relax, enjoy x-mas, remember whatever you buy some one will always say thats bad news
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My dad has one and he loves it, especially the six-speed box that his has. I had it for a week when he was on holiday and I would say that it is a potential license loser, you just don't feel like you are doing any sort of speed when you are are actually doing 85-90 mph!
As I work in the motor trade selling parts for all cars, I would say that starter motors fail a fair bit, but a lot of manafacturers don't offer a warranty with the new unit, as failure is usually caused by the underlying problem of metallic dust from the DMF. We are getting enquiries for Clutches & dmf's as well, but this applies to all cars with this set-up so isn't model specific.
Pads & Disc's are a good seller, but are available pretty cheap off the shelf for OE quality replacements, so do shop around. We are starting to see demand for suspension link bars(especially rears) but again are reasonably priced. They don't seem to suffer with lower arm failures like early (93-2000) Mondeo's and the exhausts seem to last longer too.
Hope this helps you. Merry Christmas to all.
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A Ford TDCI?
You stupid boy!
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At about 65k I am needing a new starter, flywheel and clutch (design fault) Oh, and all four doors went rusty at the bottom because Ford used the wrong sealant.
If you buy one, buy a warranty with it and keep the service book kosher until even the rust perforation warranty expires.
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And the body checks for rust perforation warranty are in addition to the service itself. No stamps means to warranty on the bodywork and paint.
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Lucky sod - I had one: best car I ever had.
Enjoy it.
peanut.
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thanks to all, because to tell you the truth, I love the car ,,OOOOOOOO and that fourth gear(she nice ,I like). you guys have put my mind at rest, happy new year to all and safe motoring..
Edited by Dynamic Dave on 30/12/2007 at 00:11
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My 130TDCi goes like the wind, very powerful and an excellent and stable tow car. My only niggle is that the idling speed is fine at 750rpm, but as soon as the wheels are rolling, even in neutral or with the clutch down, the idling speed goes up to 950rpm. This makes driving in slow moving traffic most uncomfortable and it is necessary to slip the clutch if speed is below 10mph. My dealer assures me that they all do this and it is not a fault but I am not convinced. Other than that it is a very nice car and is very well equipped, although it is the Ghia X variant. (2002 model, 101,000 miles)
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I had a similar car,reg.Oct 2003,and although generally a praiseworthy car,I am forever thankful that it being my employers vehicle,I did not have to pay the bills on it.
It was very quick,and if driven gently,very,very fuel efficient. I regularly got 60 mpg on a mixture of out-of town roads,and on a 250 mile airport run got 67 mpg!
I also used it for towing a horse box,it having far and away the best tow capacity in its class,and it had power to spare. If driven carefully,which you have to do when towing livestock trailers,I could still get up to 33 mpg,so the overall performance was first class.
The down side is that I do not consider that the transmission and running gear is up to the job if you use the full capacity of the vehicle.It is worth making the point that I did not abuse the car and used well within its stated capabilities.
Mine had to have a new rear subframe under warranty as the bushes cannot be renewed seperately,necessitating a whole new subframe assembly ---- not clever!
Rapid deterioration of these bushes is apparently a recognised fault.
At 73K-ish,it needed a new clutch master cylinder,which apparently is a real pig of a job,and after another 15K the whole clutch had to be replaced,hence my comments about not having to pay the bills.
This marred what in most respects was an excellent car.
Steve.
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"also used it for towing a horse box"
"Mine had to have a new rear subframe under warranty .
At 73K-ish,it needed a new clutch master cylinder,which apparently is a real pig of a job,and after another 15K the whole clutch had to be replaced"
Any connection between these events?
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Tow a horse box + horse and need a new clutch? What a surprise.. not.
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Surely towing a box with a horse in it takes it well over the recommended towing weights
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Surely towing a box with a horse in it takes it well over the recommended towing weights
1800kg max. Could tow this for example
www.richardsontrailers.co.uk/NetBuildPro/process/1...e
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My understanding is that they are great cars let down badly by dealers who don't understand them, and sometimes Ford themselves who give customers the run around getting what should be relatively straightforward things fixed.
Yes, you do hear some horror stories, but as others have said, there are so many around that this is bound to be the case. Plus, all cars have their known faults - look at the 320d BMW's for example, but nobody dares to suggest they're not up to scratch, even though they can pop turbos and ingest manifold parts. The vast majority of both BMW and Ford will rack up starship mileages without giving owners the slightest headache. That's how cars are these days, even the "unreliable" ones.
In addition, you see so many TDCi Mondeos as taxis and fleet cars, both applications where unreliability is simply not tolerated, that they can't be inherently bad.
And the car itself is lovely. You won't find a better handling or more refined diesel family hatch.
Cheers
DP
Edited by DP on 18/03/2008 at 08:13
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