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Just a shot rant! why do some drivers feel there is no need to use headlights in foggy weather. Don't these people realise that they are not only putting their lives at risk but also the safety of other road users.
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This evening in THIN MIST and nose to tail traffic,most vehicles had front and rear foglights blazing.
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If only having enough braincells to know when to turn the right lights on were part of our driving test.
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I read often, only post occasionally
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Saw an accident on Thurs morning which was extrememly foggy - a lorry pulling out of a factory had a van embedded in the side of it. Not sure if perhaps lack of lights was a contributing factor but was more amazed to see the queue of traffic pass the accident and some drivers not twig that they didn't have their lights on and this could be a result of that.
Or do we all just expect our Auto lights to come on when needed?
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2007 Seat Altea XL 2.0 TDI (140) Stylance
2005 Skoda Fabia vrS
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So those drivers with mainly front fogs on, but some with both front and rear, when there is no fog around............
What do they do when there is fog? Do they panic because they expect even more lights to come on and when they don't they phone up the dealer? Do they get the manual out to look up how to switch the fog lights on, only to realise they have been on for the past 18 months?
I'm being sarcastic I know, but with this latest round of fog I can expect fog lights to be on well into the spring.
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I thought this thread would answer my, as yet, unvoiced question!
On my car I can switch on the front foglights without headlights also being on (But I guess this couldn't be done on newer vehicles?) and in fact I find that this inproves visibility considerably as there is then no light scatter from the higher mounted headlights.
But is this legal or is it a requirement that headlights also have to be illuminated.
PS I don't need to remember to switch the rear lights and DRL's on, its a Volvo ;-)
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On my car I can switch on the front foglights without headlights also being on (But I guess this couldn't be done on newer vehicles?) and in fact I find that this inproves visibility considerably as there is then no light scatter from the higher mounted headlights.
If you mean in "ordinary" driving conditions no, front fog lights should only be used in foggy conditions just like the rear ones - the reason they are low is for exactly the reason you say - they only light up a short distance in front of your car, unlike the normal headlights.... Highway code 114 and 226!!!!
But from what I've seen up and down the country it seems acceptable practice to use them instead of headlights when there's no fog - at least the plod aren't doing them for it, so I assume its acceptable, despite the HC!
(He says sarcastically!)
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I drove south on the M6/M5 yesterday through several patches of fog and it was common to see , close together, one vehicle on parking lights, one on headlights, one with front and rear fogs on, and one with none at all.
It puzzles me:
- Aren't some of them curious as to why others are not doing what they are doing?
-Don't people showing fog lights wonder what those warning lights are on their dashboards?
It's also become common around here at dusk for people who have wired-in fogs to put them on, with no fog at all, so that their headlights go off, and they are driving on country roads at 60-70 with the road in front of them only illuminated for about 50 meters
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I'm dead against compulsion in a lot of areas including daylight running lamps, more so because research (good old British research not some Eurocarp) shows that bikes would become invisible in an all light environment.......but there are some real idiots out there either with no lights, poorly maintained lights, illegal set-ups, dirty lamps etc....
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"some real idiots out there either with no lights, poorly maintained lights, illegal set-ups, dirty lamps etc"
went in to Nottingham yesterday through some pretty thick fog - usual assortment as mentioned above plus no lights, parking lights etc. At one point I remarked how many cars had only one headlight working - "look there's 2 on the trot says I". "Well, maybe the first one will get nicked by the second one - its a police car" replied my wife.
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Yes I was out on my motorbike yesterday and not only saw idiots with no headlights but was tailgated by someone who lives near me.
Have to say the red mist descended and I turned off the main road early and went and gave them a mouthful. :-\
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I think people forget the main rules of motoring:-
1. Never use your lights when visibility is impaired, as they will only distract other drivers and dazzle pedestrians
2. Always leave your rear foglight switch in the "on" position so that you can dazzle and stop cars overtaking you when it's raining
3. Always drive at 30mph in the inside lane of a motorway - especially if you drive a Nissan Micra or a Renault Modus.
4. Always use poor visibility as an excuse to increase your speed to 30mph more than normal - you can use the poor visibility excuse to say you couldn't see the speed limit signs
5. When travelling at speed, always drive as closely as possible to the car in front to improve your fuel consumption by slip-streaming.
6. Always take your 15mph top speed JCB on to the ring road during rush hour
7. If towing a caravan, see how big a tail-back you can create by only driving at 30mph - answers to the Guinness Book of Records.............
8. Never buy a hands-free kit - it's far more exciting trying to steer with your knees at 70mph while holding a cup of coffeee and send a text from your mobile at the same time
9. If you're a cyclist, totally ignore any traffic signs, road markings, lighting requiremens or, indeed, any measures designed to improve your safety
10. If you see a police car actually out on the road doing some work, telephone BBC News, the local press, and get their autograph to sell on E-Bay.
Have a safe 2008 folks!
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