Daddy, there's a BMW in my bedroom! - 007

tinyurl.com/yu4dvu
Daddy, there's a BMW in my bedroom! - SpamCan61 {P}
Love the comment from 'cruel but fair' that the picture just looked like an ordinary teenagers bedroom.

A 17 year old round my way managed to plant a 330Ci in the side of a pub last week, luckily no-one hurt.
Daddy, there's a BMW in my bedroom! - MichaelR
Thats really, really tragic. It's a shame that there are people in that world which will do this sort of thing. I hope they get what they deserve.

I mean... Style 66 Sport wheels on a prefacelift E39 SE! What were they thinking?
Daddy, there's a BMW in my bedroom! - SpamCan61 {P}
Maybe she'd asked for an extra radiator in her bedroom?
Daddy, there's a BMW in my bedroom! - Altea Ego
My son would have dreamed of having a BMW in his bedroom at Xmas,
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Daddy, there's a BMW in my bedroom! - SpamCan61 {P}
Found a link to the one round my way:-

tinyurl.com/2k5h8p {Shrunk - because too darn long before}

Unfortunately no BMW in the photo so MR can't check the wheels :-))

Edited by Dynamic Dave on 17/12/2007 at 14:04

Daddy, there's a BMW in my bedroom! - yorkiebar
I understand the making light humour at this, but.

If it was my daughter/son/wife/ me in that bed then I would hope that if the driver is caught and proven guilty then they throw the book at him/her.

No excuse for that whatsoever!

I have no problem with fast driving (guilty myself), but its where when and how. And the car didnt go through that wall at 30mph did it!

This is just a classic case of obvious demand for yet another scamera!
Daddy, there's a BMW in my bedroom! - FotheringtonThomas
I have no problem with fast driving (guilty myself) but its where when and how.
And the car didnt go through that wall at 30mph did it!


Here you are:

tinyurl.com/2mbco6


The car was travelling from South-East towards the North-West when it abruptly stopped. I'm told that the 30MPH limit starts at the bottom RHS of the picture, at the end of the row of houses (looks like about 1/4 mile). I would not be surprised if it was going at about 30MPH, cars tend to do quite a lot of damage to walls!
Daddy, there's a BMW in my bedroom! - yorkiebar
Seen quite a few cars in walls, hedges, sheds etc in my time. The average 30 mph collision causes less penetration than this ime.

However, my main issue still stands un argued I hope. If found guilty then he/she deserves the book thrown at them.
Daddy, there's a BMW in my bedroom! - henry k
One response to the original article was -

"I saw this from bedroom window at 2.30am Sunday morning! The driver of the car must have been under the influence of something because this house is opposite a well lit T-junction next to a main road through the village."
Daddy, there's a BMW in my bedroom! - henry k
However my main issue still stands un argued I hope.
If found guilty then he/she deserves the book thrown at them.

>>
reading another news item - The book has been started.

"No-one was seriously hurt, but police charged one woman with not stopping after an accident and drink driving."

Daddy, there's a BMW in my bedroom! - Lud
'Barn conversion'. Hmmm...

Looks more like a shed than a barn, perhaps housing some late Victorian small industry. Or a cowshed.

It's hard to imagine a building with a slate roof having walls only one course thick. But even a two-course wall, or one with a cavity, can be surprisingly brittle 110 years on. Lime cement settles nicely, doesn't move much, is nice and soundproof. But a BMW can punch a hole through it as easy as pie.

'Look out Sharon!'

'Wot?'

'AAAAAAGH!' (Kerwhump! Tinkle tinkle etc.)

Assorted expletives, scamper scamper, all to no avail. Tee hee!
Daddy, there's a BMW in my bedroom! - Dynamic Dave
Good job they didn't leave the landing light on, otherwise they could have had a plane though the upstairs window as well.
Daddy, there's a BMW in my bedroom! - Big Bad Dave
"otherwise they could have had a plane though the upstairs window as well"

Nearly happened to me forty years ago believe it or not. My mam tells the story of some prop job that came within a few tens of feet of taking our roof off and eventually crashed a couple of miles on in Hopes Carr, Stockport. My memory of it is rather vague being as I was somewhat "in the womb" at the time, be she recalls neighbours throwing themselves to the floor in terror.
Daddy, there's a BMW in my bedroom! - R40
'My mam tells the story of some prop job that came within a few tens of feet of taking
our roof off and eventually crashed a couple of miles on in Hopes Carr Stockport.'


The Stockport Air Disaster - still remembered by many in Stockport and Manchester. It was a Canadair Argonaut. See here for info:

tinyurl.com/2r5eaj
Daddy, there's a BMW in my bedroom! - Pugugly {P}
Two little comments about the news reports.

1. Wing Mirrors (not)
2. "Later yesterday the BMW was pulled from the side of the barn, leaving a gaping hole" Journo went to the University of the bleedin' obvious !
Daddy, there's a BMW in my bedroom! - Big Bad Dave
wreckless journalism
Daddy, there's a BMW in my bedroom! - Big Bad Dave
I can remember being with my grandad who worked in Hillgate, and he took me to see the site where this plane had crashed. I was probably only two or three at the time, I just about recall it was all wasteland.

I always think about when I drive through Hillgate whenever I'm in the UK.
Daddy, there's a BMW in my bedroom! - Pugugly {P}
aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=1967060...0

An authoritative source gives a definitive description of the crash.
Daddy, there's a BMW in my bedroom! - Big Bad Dave
Awful

I'd be interested to hear what Number Cruncher has to say about a "windmilling Propellor"
Daddy, there's a BMW in my bedroom! - Pugugly {P}
We were brought up on this sort of stuff, my old man was in the Aviation Medicine business.....
Daddy, there's a BMW in my bedroom! - Number_Cruncher
>>"windmilling Propellor"

Shockingly little BBD - I've never had anything to do with this on aeroplanes with piston engines and propellors. Windmilling does, however, give an odd design case when you are designing things to go on the wing.

If there's a blade off event in the engine, the engine gets shut down, but, in a jet engine, there's nothing to stop the rotating parts spooling up in the "breeze". So, you have an out of balance shaft, turning at a speed you can't control! until you land. This gives rise to a vibration loadcase, where components on the wing must withstand a level of vibration corresponding to the out of balance force, for a period of 2 hours - during which period, the plane should find somewhere to land. (Note if this happens mid Atlantic, you are left hoping that there's a decent design margin in the parts!)

The vibration level varies depending where your component is mounted on the wing - parts in or near engine support pylons, and of course on the engine itself are subjected to the highest levels.

Windmilling will happen on piston engined propellor driven planes too - but there's much more friction torque in a piston engine.

Number_Cruncher

Daddy, there's a BMW in my bedroom! - Pugugly {P}
I think that this was a turbo-prop. (if only to have one up on NC ! doesn;t happen often !)
Daddy, there's a BMW in my bedroom! - Pugugly {P}
Pooh I was wrong it was a piston engined. Won't edit myself though !
Daddy, there's a BMW in my bedroom! - Kevin
A windmilling prop produces lots of drag so the real power loss is more than just the loss of the engine. This is why props are feathered.

Kevin...
Daddy, there's a BMW in my bedroom! - Number_Cruncher
>>A windmilling prop produces lots of drag...

This is fun!, I'm having difficulty seeing why. It's not that I don't believe it's true, it's just that the penny hasn't dropped yet.

I can see that feathering - i.e. turning the propellor so it faces straight on to the oncoming air reduces drag, (and also stops the windmilling because the friction torque will dominate any aerodynamic torque) and that's obviously a good thing.

If you don't change the pitch of the propellor, why does a spinning propellor produce more drag than a stationary one? Is it always true, under all conditions?

Number_Cruncher
Daddy, there's a BMW in my bedroom! - Kevin
>This is fun!, I'm having difficulty seeing why.

It actually produces negative thrust. You will find the theory on quite a few aviation sites but a basic explanation is here:

www.auf.asn.au/groundschool/propeller.html

Kevin...
Daddy, there's a BMW in my bedroom! - Number_Cruncher
Mmm, on and off, I've been giving this a bit of thought during today (I've been even more vacant than usual!). I think the situation is really rather complex. The vector diagrams demonstrate that a windmilling prop will cause drag, but they don't answer whether there's more drag than a stationary, non-feathered propellor.

In essence though, the fact that autogyros can fly at all suggests that a windmilling propellor can do odd things, and the lift of an autogyro is essentially the same as the drag caused by a windmilling propellor, but in a different direction relative to the motion of the craft - relative to the rotating propellor, the direction of the force is unchanged.

So, for me, the question has moved on to this:- How on earth do autogyros work?

Number_Cruncher


Daddy, there's a BMW in my bedroom! - Kevin
Can't help with autogyros although I once toyed with the idea of building one. I've always assumed that the rotor behaves like a combination of fixed wing and rotor.

A quick google tells me that these folks might be interesting:

www.gyrocopters.co.uk/html/contacts___links.html

Kevin...
Daddy, there's a BMW in my bedroom! - helicopter
This gets my back up - just what sort of person can do such a horrendous thing as that , still theres no accounting for some peoples stupidity...

Imagine what sort of a person calls his daughters Anna- Daisy and Emma - Rosie......
Daddy, there's a BMW in my bedroom! - Group B
A similar thing happened at our halls of residence at university.
One night the handbrake failed on a Triumph Toledo in the car park, it rolled over a shallow kerb, down approx 12 foot of grass at a shallow slope, into the wall of one of the accomodation blocks (timber frame construction). There was a bloke in his bed, the car went through the wall and knocked his bed about 12 inches across the floor - he got the fright of his life!
IIRC the main thing that stopped the car was the tyres hitting the upstand edge of the concrete floor slab.

IMO the moral of the OP story is if you want a house facing a T-junction, make sure its got a garden and a big garden wall between the house and the road.. It would not take much to make a car go through a cavity wall like this, brickwork is strong in compression but hopeless in tension.

;o)

Edited by Rich 9-3 on 18/12/2007 at 12:04

Daddy, there's a BMW in my bedroom! - Big Bad Dave
"what sort of a person calls his daughters Anna-Daisy"

What's wrong with that? My eldest is called Woopsie-Daisy
Daddy, there's a BMW in my bedroom! - Bill Payer
"what sort of a person calls his daughters Anna-Daisy"

I thought the bloke in the picture was the driver! He doesn't have to look one would expect of a director of a national company. What's the world coming to?!

Edited by Bill Payer on 18/12/2007 at 16:13

Daddy, there's a BMW in my bedroom! - bell boy
i reckon she was so concerned about using her indicators at the junction that she failed to see the wall approaching fast..................occifferrrr
Daddy, there's a BMW in my bedroom! The RESULT. - henry k

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/herts/71591...m

Eight days later.......a guilty plea but two years ban and £1200 fine.
Daddy, there's a BMW in my bedroom! The RESULT. - Pugugly {P}
Good - SSSJ gets one just in time for Christmas !
Daddy, there's a BMW in my bedroom! - henry k

Here is another similar happening ( on video ) that really made the news ;-))
tinyurl.com/2cl3z5
Daddy, there's a BMW in my bedroom! - movilogo
Well, there is another one...

tinyurl.com/3e4jyq