How do Backroomers deal with road rage? - stevek
Driving back home through sheffield in a hire car this evening I managed to get in the "wrong" lane at the main roundabout in Sheffield (where the trams go over). Road markings and traffic lights have all changed from when I was there last. Trying to get in the "correct" lane was confronted by another driver shouting and swearing. Now I appreciate I was in the wrong but was indicating my intentions but his response was disporportionate to me being in the wrong lane.
I just went on and he disapeared behind me somewhere.
So I suppose I did right by just ignoring it but why cant people just accept mistakes are made and allow accordingly?
Appreciate any thoughts.
How do Backroomers deal with road rage? - oilrag
You never know another drivers mental state.
How do Backroomers deal with road rage? - martint123
I would just shrug my shoulders and mouth "sorry".
Anything else can get you in serious trouble nowadays.
How do Backroomers deal with road rage? - barney100
Avoid eye contact as this will not give the person raging at you any excuse to get madder. You can't avoid this type of driver so just accept that you are going to come across them from time to time.
How do Backroomers deal with road rage? - gordonbennet
I usually blow them a kiss and give them a big smile, find this to be a winning combination.

Remember in the incident you describe you have wronged a perfect person, one who has never made a mistake in their life, so your not going to get anywhere being logical/normal.

How do Backroomers deal with road rage? - bell boy
I usually blow them a kiss and give them a big smile, find this to be a winning combination.
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>>>>>>>>>>> some male in his car did this to me 3 weeks ago and im still smarting,i thought about a reaction and refrained but everyone i know that i have told the story to have told me that they would have ripped the guy out of the car and smashed his face in,so not recommended to blow kisses to people you have wronged
How do Backroomers deal with road rage? - blue_haddock
How do i deal with road rage? A Sawn off shotgun!
How do Backroomers deal with road rage? - L'escargot
How do i deal with road rage? A Sawn off shotgun!


Just make sure you've sawn off the right end!
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L\'escargot.
How do Backroomers deal with road rage? - BobbyG
Going back to the OP this is my pet hate. You are queued in two lanes at traffic lights and its only when you slowly progress forward that you suddenly see the road marking with the arrows telling you that you are in the wrong lane!

On my daily commute I pass through six of these types of junctions, there are no road signs in advance of them and in rush hour traffic there is always a car on top of the road marking!


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How do Backroomers deal with road rage? - gordonbennet
I usually blow them a kiss and give them a big smile find this to
be a winning combination.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> some male in his car did this to me 3 weeks ago and im
still smarting


S'funny but i find it tends to diffuse the situation, maybe they have other issues re. the kisses.

Don't suppose there is any hard and fast rule, but i for one am not cowering in the face of unreasonable bullying..which is what road rage really is.

Thats not to say that i go around looking for trouble, but have you noticed it usually a biggish bloke mouthing off at a smaller chap..and its not on.
How do Backroomers deal with road rage? - bell boy
i think blowing a kiss to another man is just asking for trouble
the situation is already heated
somebody sees a wrong whether its there or not
then to try and offer them a kiss that can be mistaken as calling them homosexual
well
i wouldnt recommend it
i live in yorkshire

{one word amended}

Edited by Dynamic Dave on 30/11/2007 at 00:31

How do Backroomers deal with road rage? - stuartl
i live in yorkshire

I live in Gloucester and I wouldnt recommend it either.

A well visible apologetic sign can calm a situation far better than deliberately antagonising other drivers

Edited by Dynamic Dave on 30/11/2007 at 00:31

How do Backroomers deal with road rage? - bathtub tom
Drive a white van, or a beat-up old banger and shout back 'I only paid fifty quid for this, d'yer fink I bovvered to insure it?' ;>)
How do Backroomers deal with road rage? - Big Bad Dave
Bottle it all up inside and beat my wife when I get home

Truth is I can't always control my rage, I do start out each journey with good intentions, but every now and again I blow a fuse. I'm a typical bloke. In my defence, it's never when someone makes a mistake, that never ever bothers me. I much prefer people to be cutting in front, pulling out when I'm approaching wizzing in and out of lanes and anything that keeps traffic flowing (all examples of good London driving). I rage at ditherers, dilly-dallyers, fast asleep when the lights go green-ers, people in the fast lane that pull away slower than the bus in the slow lane. Trying to find the exit in those huge out of town shopping centre car parks makes me utterly livid. But my pet hate at this particular time are people who, when you gesture to let them out, they just sit there gawping at you in that slack-jawed manner that ditherers have.

To further prop up my defence, it's not road rage with me as such. It's just rage. Doesn't matter if I'm in a supermarket, restaurant, walking down Oxford Street, working or watching telly. Nothing beats a good rant at both people and inanimate objects. I went to collect my nephew from play school the other day and the headmaster actually came out to tell me off for parking on the grass - I got out, walked up to him, put my face right in his and raged until I thought I was going to burst. And it felt sooooooooo good.

I don't really beat my wife of course, she'd knock seven bells out of me.
How do Backroomers deal with road rage? - charlesb
Dave

Spot on. I and the Wife both have the same pet hates. Of course this is exacerbated once you drive in Portugal a log. The drivers over there have no patience at all and as soon as the lights turn green, if the person at the front hasn't already moved 20 yards, they're leaning on their horns. It doesn't help that they anticipate the Green light (No Amber)

Unfortunately, I have picked up this habit somewhat.... Parp! My only problem is that the Horn in my Touran is frankly useless. More like "Excuse me" rather than "GET OUT OF THE WAY"

Charles
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How do Backroomers deal with road rage? - Altea Ego
"Unfortunately, I have picked up this habit somewhat.... Parp! My only problem is that the Horn in my Touran is frankly useless. More like "Excuse me" rather than "GET OUT OF THE WAY""

Yes YES THATS IT.

horns these days are pathetic weedy things. Road rage appeared when we were foisted with stupid noddy "parps" A good tripple air horn, loud - shrill -urgent that what we all need! road rage disapears in an instant




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How do Backroomers deal with road rage? - Martin Devon
stupid noddy "parps" A good triple air horn loud - shrill -urgent thats what we
all need! road rage disappears in an instant

Or playing Colonel Bogey ain't a bad choice either. Now.......How many balls did Hitler have??

Love the Backroom most days.............VBR.......MD

How do Backroomers deal with road rage? - ForumNeedsModerating
This is a 'well it really depends' type of question (or answer) isn't it? Who here would suggest casually blowing a kiss to a car-full of ethnic looking gangsta types if they started making forefinger & bendy thumb signs at you? Not many I'd wager, inc. me. OTOH, if a bullying type of lorry driver got stroppy, and road conditions were in my favour, I might think it appropriate to generate a nice insulting gesture (or set of gestures) that undermined his masculinity, driving prowess & intelligence. Wimmin can be surprisingly aggressive. My 'technique' in this situation, if confronted with RR, is absolute indifference & mimsiness - a sort of passive stupidity that leaves them flummoxed & deflated. Never leave the car in any RR situation of course, not only for what the aggressor might do - but for what you might do too.

I don't tend to practise the above much, although my thought processes work along those lines. More often than not, if pushed, I'll unleash my look of extreme pity & deep understanding for their life of bathos & pathos. This is best practised in the mirror for the final nuanced perfection, for when deployed.
How do Backroomers deal with road rage? - CGNorwich
just remember this quotation

"Anger is a killing thing: it kills the man who angers, for each rage leaves him less than he had been before - it takes something from him.?

Louis L'Amour

it works for me

How do Backroomers deal with road rage? - FotheringtonThomas
So anyway, there I was a morning or so ago, driving along, around the sweeping bend on the road through -town, when all of a sudden, apropos of nothing, there's a dark blue MINI alongside, as if to overtake, driving down the white line, staying abreast of me, with the driver gesticulating angrily. No idea why. I'm afraid that I gave him a hand signal (meaning "You are your own sexual partner"). I turned left at the -arms, up a side road, and so did he, swerving about all over the place. I let him past, and he stopped! Well, then he started to get out, so I reversed a little way, and backwards into a driveway to some garages. He turned around, and came back! I put my bumper next to his door, so he couldn't get out, and looked at him. He looked rather cross!
So, then he pulled forward to get out of his car, & I turned left back through -, right past the -s, and on that way. What the - ! Very odd!

Should I have pressed in the side of his car (or head)? Probably not, but...
How do Backroomers deal with road rage? - Ed V
Dave / Charles

Get down to the doctor, check the blood pressure and ask him/her when you will die of a heart attack.

That should re-prioritise your lives and may even persuade the headmaster not to pick on your children.
How do Backroomers deal with road rage? - Round The Bend
Often amazes me that these ragers are reported to have produced baseball bats from their cars to threaten other motorists. Baseball is n't exactly our national sport. A cricket bat or a snooker cue perhaps but ...............

Edited by Round The Bend on 30/11/2007 at 10:05

How do Backroomers deal with road rage? - bell boy
a cricket bat is too heavy and unweildy
a snooker cue is not heavy enough
a baseball bat is nicely weighted,just long enough and will stop anyone if used right
How do Backroomers deal with road rage? - Round The Bend
bb. Agree that baseball bat is the perfect cosh but the average person does n't just "happen" to have one in their car.
How do Backroomers deal with road rage? - DP
I used to be terrible, but got better. Driving 30k pa for six years does it for you, as does having a baby or young child in the car. If every piece of general road-related idiocy and stinking attitude got to you doing this kind of mileage, you'd be dead within months, and you'd be putting the most precious thing (to you) on this earth at risk. What's a tooled up "care in the community" person going to do to my wife and kids having put me out of action with a baseball bat (or worse)? These are all things that wouldn't even have entered my head in my 20's when I was invincible, and the only consequences of my actions were on myself.

Generally just take a deep breath and ignore it these days. On the odd occasion a muttered swear word or two. The last time I even got close to physical confrontation was about 6 yrs ago in a car park in Uxbridge when I tooted at a 3-series driver who drove across a give way, forcing me to take avoidinig action. When I tooted he stopped. I mouthed something, he mouthed back. We both got out of our cars and stared at each other for a bit. Time stopped. Eventually he got back in his car, I got back in mine. A few choice hand signals and we went our separate ways. I think that was when I realised how ridiculous and pointless road rage was, and how he could have been anyone and I could have been dead. Judging by his reaction once he got out of the car, I actually suspect he felt the same.

Cheers
DP
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How do Backroomers deal with road rage? - stevek
Thanks for all the replies. I think the problem is peoples level of tolerance varies and are just not forgiving for innocent mistakes. I can understand it to an extent of they have been intimidated by poor behaviour but thats another topic.

For me I will just ignore things in the future and will accept that people do make silly mistakes but its not important or worth getting upset about.

Regards
How do Backroomers deal with road rage? - madf
I work on the basis that every other driver is a fool. When they start to behave like one, my view is confirmed.
So road rage does not upset me, just confirms my inherent bias.
So no real upset. :-)

I also drive on the same basis so am not upset when others do stoopid things.. I expect it.

It may seem an awfully superior way to think but it ensures that mentally you are prepared for the many idots and they do not upset me.

And if someone did attack me, I still remember enough martial arts and am still fit and supple enough to seriously injure someone if I had to. But immobilisation is painful and effective and simpler.


I hope I never have to..

madf
How do Backroomers deal with road rage? - Bill Payer
Road markings and traffic lights have all changed from when I was there last.


I drive all over the UK and the issue I have is that road marking, signs etc aren't consistent, so if you're in a strange area it's very easy to get messed up.

I'm always bemused by drivers who rage at cars & trucks with foreign plates who are clearly uncertain - it seems sensible for all sorts of reasons to always give them a wide berth.
How do Backroomers deal with road rage? - AR-CoolC
I know I'm not perfect, and accept that. So it means other road users aren't perfect. mistakes happen, people end up in the wrong lane sometimes, so what, there are other things in life to worry about. If someone is in the wrong lane, I'll let them into mine. If they are jumping the que and barging in, I'll let them in, I'd rather have that type of driver infront of me than behind me.

If someone gets upset at me needing to change lanes, then frankly that's their problem, not mine. A shrug of the shoulders and carry on my way.

What amazes me though is the complete numpties who get upset at you because they have done something wrong.

How do Backroomers deal with road rage? - Alby Back
Have to say, since entering, shall we say, the second half of my adult life, I can barely remember any instances of being either the instigator or the victim of road rage. I just give other vehicles room to make their own way in whatever skilled or otherwise manner they choose. My main objective is to make good progress without anyone else particularly noticing. The only occasion in recent years when things got heated ( as I mentioned on another thread this week ) was when experimenting with using my Tom Tom as a handsfree phone link. I was so irritated with it and was leaning forward in red-faced bellowing mode when another driver mistook this behaviour for some dissatisfaction with his conduct ! The ensuing three way conversation between the irate other driver, me and the the other party on the 'phone was worthy of a comedy sketch !
" no not you mate ... the 'phone ... who ? what did you call me ? no not you ! "
How do Backroomers deal with road rage? - daveyjp
Let other's get on with their driving and let me concentrate on mine.

I could have happily base ball batted someones windows out last night though!

Waiting to exit car park - right turn across three lanes - huge KEEP CLEAR notice painted on road. Exit is 30 or so metres from a set of lights leading to a three lane ring road. Last night one lane of ring road was blocked so traffic horrendous.

I leave car park and there is a Picasso parked slap bang across the Keep Clear in lane one, lane 2 driver has left it clear, lane three is blocked by a Transit. Seeing the traffic I sit there calmly indicator on so traffic on my right can see I want to exit in front of them and leave them sitting in the queue!

Lights change and one car gets through. I begin to edge forward as I know the Picasso will move on and leave a gap behind so I can get out. The (insert as many expletives as you wish here) driving the car behind the Picasso who had clocked me and must have seen me indicating carried on driving and ended up blocking the KEEP CLEAR!

I looked at him and all I could muster was a hand clap to congratulate him on his show of sheer selfishness.
How do Backroomers deal with road rage? - Lud
Muttering and even shouting ritual curses, usually without eye contact, is a habit of mine that always makes me feel silly. However I have outgrown aggressive expressions of distaste or anger with other people's driving on all but the most fraught occasions. I can't remember when the last one was. I assume most here are at least as controlled and prudent as I am, and many must be more so than me.

Similarly, I seldom cause obvious anger in other road users. When I do, I apologise by word or gesture if I think I am at fault, and look blank and bored if I don't.
How do Backroomers deal with road rage? - quizman
I had a similar problem to the OP last week. The road had changed since I was last there and I was in the wrong lane at a roundabout. I was the first there and indicated to change lane but was fingered by a man in a Mazda. At the next roundabout I got behind him, when the lights went green he wouldn't move for a while. This is when I wished I had James Bond's Aston with the twin machine guns in the headlights. It would have made my day!
How do Backroomers deal with road rage? - bell boy
i was in the wrong lane in that big city leeds today wow its a big place with lots and lots of people,anyway i put my indicator on on my tracter and i was let in by a very nice man,well i think he let me in as he was waving a lot and singing...i think?
How do Backroomers deal with road rage? - Hugo {P}
Now THIS is roadrage :)

www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?v=e&t=57...3

How do Backroomers deal with road rage? - scaniadriver
Anyone remember Kenny Noye?
How do Backroomers deal with road rage? - Blue {P}
I've calmed down very quicky since I got my licence and at the ripe old age of 23 am pretty good (partly helped by a stern talking to off 3 police officers following one unfortunate gesticulating incident!)

However, I have noticed that since I started driving the Mondeo I am no longer as prepared to back down when someone wants to push into my lane as I once was, when I had the BMW or when I'm driving the MG I take extreme care, but now, if someone wants to push across, I don't give way. They're normally driving a nicer car than I am and so they tend to give up pretty quickly. :-)

Blue
How do Backroomers deal with road rage? - GroovyMucker
Smiling, waving, looking apologetic, even clapping your hand to your forehead - it's difficult to remain angry with someone like that, and you feel stupid if you do.
How do Backroomers deal with road rage? - Hugo {P}
TBH I find it easier to forgive other drivers if it seems that they have made a genuin mistake.

The ones that I can't stand are the thoughtless gits who;

1) stop right in front of you when coming out of a retail car park to chat to a friend when they can see that you're right behind them, then look all surprised when you give them a filthy look as you drive past

2) simply cut you up and weave in and out of lanes either because they don't know what they are doing or think they have a god given right to do so

3) quite franlkly shouldn't be driving as they don't have the faculties to do so.

One elderly lady reversed hard into my van whilst trying to park then bounced off half a car length. She got out of her car and dutifully locked the door, not noticing that her car was sticking out of the parking space by half a car length. Not only did she not know that she hadn't hit my van but she was ademant that she had not. It took an indepentent witness to back me up before she backed down.

I was polite to her as I was actually quite concerned for her own safety but had that been a small child's pram or buggy the concequences would have been quite different.
How do Backroomers deal with road rage? - Pendlebury
I wronged a guy once on the road by cutting him up although I had to pull in and he was making it very difficult - my mistake though & I apologised with a hand signal.
He pulled up beside me at the next junction and threw all the usual verbal obsentities at me.
I just looked at him and replied "my colleagues will be in touch" When he picked his jaw up he apologised and said he was having a bad day and just cos I'm a copper it doesn't mean I own the road. Clearly I'm not a copper and he has no idea who my colleagues are.

It's an old one I know but still works with some of the younger idiots,