...you could do worse than be driving a Fiesta at the time:
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Edited by Pugugly {P} on 22/11/2007 at 18:04
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quote........all four doors swung open as the car hit the rocky surface.........unquote
if that had happened you would see tell tale creases in the door skins,plus it wouldnt happen anyway as the safety door locks wouldnt allow it and in summing up they were lucky to be in a mk 3 fiesta with passenger airbag as these were rare, being female and more sensible they would have had their seat belts on as well, not like silly brave lads who dont need em innit.
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quote........all four doors swung open as the car hit the rocky surface.........unquote if that had happened ..........>>
I guess it didnt, the artical also says: "Francesca added: "The car smashed into rocks and made a hell of a noise. I tried my door but couldn't shift it so we got out the driver's side."
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Statement that may be litigious snipped
What I'm wondering is what you have to do to have an accident like this. In over a decade of driving in all kinds of places and all kinds of conditions I have never even come close to leaving the road in this manner. I've never driven a Mk3 Fiesta though, so maybe I don't know how exciting driving can be. Good job the tide was out anyway.
Edited by Pugugly {P} on 22/11/2007 at 18:06
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They also think all the windows smashed too, which they clearly didn't; they must mean the tailgate flew open and tailgate glass smashed. Did the Mail reporter not look at the photos while writing the article?
I have never even come close to leaving the road in this manner..
I have several friends who have spun cars off the road, usually on deserted country lanes at night; but luckily not going over cliffs...
My mates Dad always used to say, "If you're going to crash, crash into a pub."
;o)
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I spun / lost control of cars countless times in my first few years of driving. Always on deserted country lanes at night. Sometimes accidentally, sometimes deliberately, all in the spirit of self education, and never near cliffs!
I'm not yet at the stage in life where I am prepared to criticise the young for doing the same things I did as a yoof. :-)
Cheers
DP
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Not criticizing, just wondering; everyone gets it wrong occasionally. I just think you must have to be doing something quite extreme to make a modern car do that. 'Skidded on leaves' doesn't seem like the whole story to me (I write as an almost lifelong country dweller who has skidded on leaves more than once).
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The account of the crash given by these young women, as quoted in the Telegraph, was a load of cobblers. 'The car suddenly started skidding and making a weird noise.'
It did, did it? Naughty car.
Better buy a less capricious make next time.
This sort of meaningless carp is what I get from my daughter, a very clever woman in her thirties, when I ask what has happened in one of her many accidents.
They should all be heavily fined and made to do arduous community work if you ask me. At least next time they would try to work out what had happened instead of just spouting any old rubbish.
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At least next time they would try to work out what had happened instead of just spouting any old rubbish.
A friends Dad was once giving a few of us a lift; driving quite quickly in heavy rain we came sharply up to a queue of traffic at some traffic lights. The driver braked quite hard but by no means an emergency stop, and in the days before ABS, the car skidded a yard or two as it came to a halt.
My friends Dad at the wheel said, "hmm, what was that grinding noise?" (meaning the sound of the skid). At first I thought he was joking and a couple of us laughed, but then it dawned on me that he really had no idea that he had just skidded.
I suddenly became quite concerned that I was being piloted by a driver who had so little awareness of what he was doing! (Not the first or last time actually, when I think about it).
;o)
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This sort of meaningless carp is what I get from my daughter a very clever woman in her thirties when I ask what has happened in one of her many accidents. They should all be heavily fined and made to do arduous community work if you ask me.
Such people are not evil or malicious but simply do not understand the basics of cause and effect. It's a pity there is no way to force them to take some advanced/remedial tuition to instill in them the basics e.g. slow before corners, do not accelerate in corners, slow down in the rain and so on. We all know it is for their own good, though I'm not sure they would listen. Perhaps if serial crashers were forced to accompany coppers when attending serious accidents ... A lot of work for the coppers though. Maybe a compulsory gruesome film and a group talk from emergency worker?
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Of course they aren't evil or malicious. They just can't be bothered to apply their little pink minds to the physical events in which they have just been involved, and in which their own actions have played an important part.
The pretence that they simply do not and cannot understand what has happened is dishonest and incredibly annoying. When someone looks you in the eye and pretends to be much stupider than you know they really are, what do you want to do: reward them or give them a running kick up the jaxie?
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Stuck for Christmas present ideas?
Why not try "Lud's Guide to Parenting Skills"
Forget the naughty step.....a trip to A&E awaits your little terrors after reading this fun-packed volume.
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.....a trip to A&E awaits your little terrors after reading this fun-packed volume.
Oh dear. Yes, OTT bawling is not unknown round here. However, gross physical violence has been extremely rare or even non-existent.
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Oh for goodness sake give the girls a break. Luckily they are only an accident statistic and not fatality statistics.
She had only been driving for 4 weeks, our modern society tends to be a tick box one. Tick box which says Have you a driving licence? Answer, yes, therefore I can drive. Our pathetic practical test does not include parts on how well the driver can control skids, read road/weather conditions etc.
If I had just unexpectedly (for whatever reason) left the road and rolled down a cliff, I don't think I would remember what side of the car I got out of or even what colour shoes I had on. The colour of the undergarments would probably be "fresh" in my mind, though. -:)
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I agree these girls are very young and one of them had only just passed her driving test. Perhaps they really didn't know how the crash had come about. But honestly... if the roads are covered with people like that of all ages, what hope of survival for any of us?
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It is, LUD, a sign of the times.
A few off road moments, thankfully without personal injury, taught me the difference between understeer and oversteer. It introduced me to the art of panelbeating(and told me I was useless at it), and improved my feel for what the car was doing.
In those days, late 60's, crossplies were narrow and came unstuck at comparatively low speeds and in a gentle, refined way. Traffic was lighter, too.
Modern wide radials hang on a lot longer but when they decide to let go, they let go.
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The colour of the undergarments would probably be "fresh" in my mind though. -:)
At that rate of descent. A. The undergarments would probably be clean as the stuff headed upwards. And B. the result would be 'fresh' near your mind, hopefully not in it. Innitt!
More wine............VBR......MD.
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My mates Dad always used to say "If you're going to crash crash into a pub."
Many years ago, on a nasty bend 3m south of Handcross, there used to be a pub called the Plough Inn...
Many did.
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I bet even a "mild" mannered landlord would start to get "bitter" about that, even if he was a "stout" person.
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It would be pretty rum if he didn't.
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i reckon if i ever drove into a pub it would be the dog and gun :-(
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My step son has just completed Pass Plus.This covered night driving and motorway driving but not skid control.
Enabled a reduction in his insurance premium though.
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I bet even a "mild" mannered landlord would start to get "bitter" about that even if he was a "stout" person.
Just keep on Half pint and you'll get a smack on the Gin!
I'm running......................................MD
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Many years ago on a nasty bend 3m south of Handcross there used to be a pub called the Plough Inn... Many did.
It's still there, huddling behind some very stout <<<<< signs and with a 40 mph limit extending a good half mile either side of it, with another half mile of 50 before that on the Handcross side. Beyond that the road is derestricted and as enjoyable as ever.
(One of the stretches of road that makes my current commute bearable - that and the A280 Long Furlong between Findon and Clapham...)
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I went on a skid training course a couple of years ago, which was more about detecting the skid and ice driving than teaching how to drive on the edge. The other item we covered was learning how to most effectively steer around obstacles and recover from cack-handed cornering.
Since then, I've never skidded a car or even had it on the point of losing grip. ABS has activated once; on an empty road when I stamped on the anchors to see if it worked. Doesn't bother me in the slightest. I like cars but prefer the idea of driving smoothly and with coordination, rather than fast.
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"If you're going to crash, crash into a pub."
I know someone who did just that - unfortunately he was commanding a Warrior at the time !
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just after i passed my test, at 17, my father lent me his Beetle, which in less than 10 mins i'd spun.........because it wouldn't go round a particular corner at the same speed as my mother's Fiesta!
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Sorry to be a pedant, but its actulaly a MK4 Fiesta Ghia :) They have a stronger chasis than the MK3.
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This happened on Jersey with a 40 limit island wide!!
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Sorry to be a pedant but its actulaly a MK4 Fiesta Ghia :) They have a stronger chasis than the MK3.
Agreed. It doesn't have a passenger airbag either, despite the journalist saying that "both" airbags deployed. Who on earth gave them the version of events that they printed?
Oh my goodness . I've just realised that I've turned into a pedant too! :-)
Blue
Edited by Dynamic Dave on 23/11/2007 at 10:19
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