I have a Suzuki GV Sport 2 door auto converatble (currently has winter hard top fitted) with a/c fitted and bull bars 11 months mot 2001 (51 plate) 11 months tax for sale in surrey £3700 I have an offer on it now so if interested please reply this weekend.
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At least the bike gives you exercise. Around here (Ribble Valley) the little mock 4x4s seem to be driven by the corpulent tendency. Could be contagious:)
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At least the bike gives you exercise. Around here (Ribble Valley) the little mock 4x4s seem to be driven by the corpulent tendency. Could be contagious:)
Reason/s for my original thought on type etc. as follows. Thought/think Suzuki reliable and no horrible surprises. All of the info' received over many years suggest that they are Excellent off road. Don't need big/complicated as it won't get much use.
As an aside I believe a guy called Tim Pedlar won a MAJOR 4x4 comp' 3-5 years ago in an SJ410 and is well known world wide for his achievements in 'mock' 4x4's.
Now try this as some kind person has resurrected the subject. What are the views on a short wheelbase Shogun or an import, (Pajero)? Nearly all of the imports of the Pajero, Delcia, Bongo ilk all smoke and stink like hell. Is it because of the low speed limit in Japan and therefore never 'booted', i.e. cleaned out. Valve stem seals knackered or what. Sometimes I think that they are value and sometimes I think that they are just old. I know you don't get ought for nought, but some of you trusty souls must enlighten the darkened one before I am parted from my hard earned.
V V BR..........MD
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What are the views on a short wheelbase Shogun or an import (Pajero)? Nearly all of the imports of the Pajero Delcia Bongo ilk all smoke and stink like hell. Is it because of the low speed limit in Japan and therefore never 'booted' i.e. cleaned out.
Having been to Japan a couple of times (last time was in October) and driven over there, I would say that you shouldn't believe a lot of what you hear about driving in Japan. Plenty of cars get 'booted', even in Tokyo city traffic (which is not quite as bad as made out). And of course a lot of cars come from areas outside of Tokyo where traffic is lighter and speeds similar to UK.
They do look after their cars pretty well though and the rough ones you see probably deteriorated once in UK. I suspect a lot of people get the money togther to buy these 4x4's. people carriers etc and then just run them until they fall apart.
Suzuki's are tought little motors and most of the mechanical bits are well proven and fairly straightforward by modern standards. Note that spares are not cheap though!
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"Mock 4x4" Perhaps you have never driven one. Between the Suzuki Jimny and the Land Rover Defender on the UK market only the Daihatsu Terios comes close in an off-the-shelf true off-road specification. Look at the arrival and departure angles on the Jimny and every other 4x4 until you get to the Defender and marvel. Like the Defender it has a dual range transfer box gears and locking diff. Unfortunately it isn't permanent 4WD and has a poor ground clearance of 190-200 mm depending on tyres but that is offset by arrival and departure angles and short wheelbase. The auto Jimny preferred by the original poster lacks engine braking downhill in low range but the manual is fine. I still use a Jimny in France on green lanes and have forded knee deep rivers in Costa Rica using a Vitara when a Land-Rover owner wouldn't risk his Series 3. Ground clearance meant I grounded on the ruts left by Landies and other bigger trucks on muddy jungle tracks. The Jimny is universally regarded as a true 4x4 and would serve the original poster well except he wants to put in two dogs and shooting gear so it just ain't big enough.
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Indian army uses Jimny (known as Gypsy there) in huge numbers in Himalayas!
Jimny is excellent in off-roader, but its on road handling isn't that great.
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the original poster well except he wants to put in two dogs and shooting gear so it just ain't big enough.
The dogs are now on a diet! I get the point re-space, but I may only take one herbert shooting in fact it would only be one. Bit of kit as well and bingo no prob. If push came to shove then some gear can always go 'up top'. Auto limits buying choice massively, but her behind the doors now won't entertain manual, but hey ho! Mate has a 'W' auto which he is going to part with soon. Done just over 100k though!! Speak to me please, speak to me...............Aprillia..
VBR Martin D.
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Martin D
The Suzuki's are certainly rugged little motors and I wouldn't worry too much about the engine (Although check for off-road damage to the underside of the car and the radiator etc). The auto transmission WOULD worry me though. They are reliable little JATCO units, but at 100k+ miles you could be looking at a rebuild in the not too distant future. These cars are by no means motorway cruisers, so I'm assuming that the 100k has been clocked up in fairly intensive short distance driving with the transmission working hard!
IIRC (and I could be wrong) there is a fuel filter built into the pump in the tank which has to be replaced at 100k, at a cost of around £100! - but I'm working from a vague memory, so ask a dealer to be sure.
BTW, before you buy one of these cars, make sure that you have a good long test run in one. The on-road handling is a bit rudimentary. I'm not sure I could live with one. If its mainly an off-road plaything then it would probably be OK.
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BTW before you buy one of these cars make sure that you have a good long test run in one. The on-road handling is a bit rudimentary. I'm not sure I could live with one. If its mainly an off-road plaything then it would probably be OK.
Strangely enough the guy that owns it covers many miles and has done some long runs, and well and loaded at times. He never baulks about the handling despite being a huge chap, 18+ stone, but I agree with the rest of the world that it is pitchy etc., but it wouldn't be used as anything other than a dog cart, shooting hack or a weekend trip to the park etc.
Maybe I'll get over the urge soon, but I've already mentioned it to the young dog and she never forgets and awaits the outcome with eager anticipation..............or that's what her tail tells me!
Best regards Aprilia.......MD
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