EwanMcGregor and Charlie Whatist....BMW R1200GS Adventures, Sun dust and long roads.
Yes Yes oh Yes. BBC2 Sunday 28th 9.00pm. Watch and enjoy...oh yes oh yes.
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All Boy's Own stufff...long, lonesome dusty highways, just men , their motorcycles, a map & haversacks ..and..er their own personal physician & a BBC film crew, back-up trailer, local guides etc. etc.
So, not quite the Che Guevarra & The Motorcycle Diaries is it?
Personally I find Ewan McGregor rather winsome & imagine him constantly reminding himself just how gorgeous he really is... what a hunk! Flick that fringe baby!
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Cheers PU - I'll set this to record. I enjoyed Long Way Round.
Which reminds me, still have to book that CBT.
Edited by Chris75 on 25/10/2007 at 20:18
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Charley Boorman he likes to be called. I'll be there. Really enjoyed long way round so much so that I bought the DVD (not you, Mr Van Driver) so I can watch that giant Russian truck drive in and out of the swollen river a few times. One shouldn't get too wound up about the support crew and filming. At face value, it was good watching with a tinnie to hand.
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>>One shouldn't get too wound up about the support crew and filming.
Not wound up at all thanks very much. The point is that it's a pretend adventure - no risk , no real danger, no excitement Just like talk show with fake guests, no more real' than Eastenders - a more hammy version of TG essentially.
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a more hammy version of TG essentially.
That's the whole hog, then :-)
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Long way down my list of TV viewing priorities. :-)
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>>One shouldn't get too wound up about the support crew and filming. Not wound up at all thanks very much. The point is that it's a pretend adventure - no risk no real danger no excitement Just like talk show with fake guests no more real' than Eastenders - a more hammy version of TG essentially.
Those two have lives, money to earn and families to take into consideration. There will be time contraints on the production of the programme. Without the support crew they would not beable to get there in anything like the right amount of time. Not to mention stay married. It's all very well if you have all the time in the world like Ted Simon did.
No BBC support, no film. It would look pretty lousy filimed on camcorders from Dixons.
Weather or not they had the crew with them, they still had to ride it (and LWR).
Good on 'em I say.
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It would look pretty lousy filimed on camcorders from Dixons.
No, au contraire! That's the sort of adventure I would watch. People genuinely using their wits shot 'as it happened' without the knowledge that whatever happens, the BBC credit card will come to the rescue.
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Having negotiated the Ukrainian and Belorussian borders with a support truck and eight other bikers I would love to see all the Internet blow-hards do it solo.
I was so grateful for the translating abilities of the truck driver's girlfriend, as well as her ability to win over surly border guards with the right look! Probably still be there if it wasn't for them. Even the bikers who scoffed the whole truck idea soon changed their tune when we left the comfy part of Europe.
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When small video cameras first appeared I met someone who had shot a lot of war or semi-war footage mostly on his own. Although it was good stuff, and exclusive too, he had a lot of trouble getting it onto major networks, as the BBC and ITV in those days were still heavily unionised and worked with a minimum of three as a field film crew. They were also snooty about using film rather than video.
These days this informal sort of footage is much more widespread. But it isn't as nice working in TV these days.
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"No Risk"
On unmade roads on another continent with "different" wildlife on 1/2 a ton of motorcycle.........let me think about that.
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If you want to watch 'real adventure'then anything with Benedict Allen. The real deal.
His book 'Into the abyss. Explorers on the edge of survival' is tremendous.
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Anybody who rides a bike knows that " Risk" is always present in many differing forms. It,s so easy to be an armchair critic that until you do something like this yourself, you haven't a clue and have no right to criticise
I really enjoyed the first series and am looking forward to the second.
You critics might be more comfortable with Come Dancing !
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Good writeup here if you can't wait.
news.independent.co.uk/people/profiles/article3091735.ece
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Anybody who rides a bike knows that " Risk" is always present in many differing forms.
Quite right! So, why not save a shedload of money & ride their silly over-sterioded trial bikes down Cheam High St instead.
until you do something like this yourself, you haven't a clue and have no right to criticise
How pray, do you know people here haven't done 'something like this' - I have , better & more real in fact. (no doctors & back-up teams looking after me though..)
You critics might be more comfortable with Come Dancing !
If you only appreciated how much skill, energy, & dedication was required in top flight ball room dancing, you might have chosen a different analogy. Perhaps you should try it.
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You may have done something better, why not tell us. Was it riding down Cheam High St ?.
The fact is that this is a film of the exploits of two motorcyclist on an adventure.If a program is to be made that interested people want to watch, then a support crew has to be there to film it and carry the equipment necessary to do it.
I think that you may have a bit of a chip on your shoulder, unless your name is Nick Sanders,in which case I would bow and scrape before you.
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unless your name is Nick Sanders,in which case I would bow and scrape before you.
I wouldn't anymore after finding out that his "round the world record" was done in sections and only the sections were timed - not the long breaks between them.
There again I admire his earlier exploits where he did go round in one go and also on pushbike.
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Couldn't care less if some feel the film crew and general back-up softens the idea... I shall be watching it and will enjoy every minute....and wish i could do something similar (with a hotel/lodge bed every night and bike mechanic there to help..)
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.and wish i could do similar
Hardly deepest Africa but I'm off to Belarus year next April, two of going so-far. Fancy it ?
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Yes i do. Have done the whole of France one year, then Spain and Portugal the next year and really enjoyed it. Have got a mate (VFR800) that would probably join in as well if you're being serious.
only slight hiccup might be Westpig junior, due in 8 weeks time....but that still leaves a 16 month gap to get it past the Ubergruppenfuhrer
Edited by Westpig on 28/10/2007 at 15:41
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Totally serious - bit to do between then and now (like selling my bit of the business) but I'll be a free man then.
PS
Looking at doing a run over to France and Belgium next spring, as a shake down, haven't ridden on the continent for many years. Northern France, Belgium and the Ardennes and down the Meuse valley.
Edited by Pugugly {P} on 28/10/2007 at 22:21
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Long Way Round - Fantastic
Lond Way Down - Going to be Great
Adventure yes, but as some have argued "not as much of an adventure as it should be" or "I did a bigger adventure".
A few things seem to be forgotten here...
1) 2 very good friends doing what they love
2) Have you heard of UNICEF? They are doing a brilliant job of promoting this excellent charity (www.unicef.org)
3) Remember the guy who set of on a "real" adventure on the Irish Sea (IIRC) in his boat. Great idea only that he had only taken a road atlas and oddly enough had got into a spot of bother and required rescuing by the coast guard.
4) Read "Into the Wild"? That was another guy in search of "adventure". He died alone and cold.
5) These guys have families and need to come back in one piece.
LWR was hard, but were amongst people who would go out of their way to help (perhaps with the exception of Ukraine)
LWD. Good chance of meeting people whold rather finish them all off!!!
Adventure is great, but dont go and do something stupid only to rely on people coming to bail you out when things get a bit difficult. I admire their responsible planning for what a believe is complete self sufficiency.
Adventure, yes, but I suspect part of what is in their minds is that it will be good fun!!
Edited by Dynamic Dave on 29/10/2007 at 13:37
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ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ < splutter > < blink >
Gosh has it finished?
That was just about the most boring experience on TV I have ever slept through, Adventure? with all that kit? I think not. Its about as rough and ready as Ray Mears spending his nights in the Holiday Inn.
Mind they wont make it as far as the next border post with the "for a jape I shall mention a bomb at the check in desk" idiocy. Planning? dont send them to a brewery anyone it would be a terrible party.
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PU,
if you e-mail me, (via the info you can glean from being a Mod) i'll happily discuss some options...... don't want to be a time waster though and as from this Christmas my life is going to change dramatically, so I need to be sensible with my planning.
Edited by Westpig on 29/10/2007 at 18:01
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