The tone of some recent BMW driver-bashing posts suggests that drivers of this marque have now taken over the mantle - from Volvo drivers - as Britain's 'most despised'.
Just wondering.....
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BMW drivers have been Britain's "most despised" for a very long time.
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The disparagement I used to hear about Volvo drivers was them pulling out in front of motorcyclists.SMIDSY.
I guess all the slow 340 series have gone to the great scrapyard as have their cloth cap wearing drivers.
BMW drivers scare me with their aggressive, pushy and plain dangerous behaviour.
Round Derbyshire seems to be many big black X5s lurching across double white lines while being driven very fast.
Nothing wrong with black BMW bikes though. ;>)
Edited by Glaikit Wee Scunner {P} on 12/10/2007 at 14:47
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3-series can be a problem, as can the X5, but I can't remember the last time I saw any other BMW being driven badly or discourteously. I don't think I've ever been carved up by a 5 series or barged out of the way by a Z4.
The BMW I encounter that's most likely to be badly driven, the E46 3-series, I don't think of in the same vein as "Volvo man" from 20 years ago, but of "Cavalier man" of the same era. Mr company rep with no patience, self discipline, or regard for anything other than getting there yesterday now has the option of a car allowance, a cheap lease deal and a few quid a month top up to get himself into a BMW instead of a company Ford or Vauxhall. Sierras and Cavaliers were driven no better 20 years ago and the same calibre of driver now tools around in a 318i or 320i.
The 3 series is the new reps special. X5's are often driven appallingly too, but no more so than Cayennes, Merc MLs, Audi Q7s Range Rovers and all the other big "premium badge" 4x4s.
Cheers
DP
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The 3 series is the new reps special. X5's are often driven appallingly too but no more so than Cayennes Merc MLs Audi Q7s Range Rovers and all the other big "premium badge" 4x4s.
Agree with your point about certain models seeming to attract the pink fluffy dices - I've never seen a 7-series being driven like your average X5/Cayenne etc.
A bad case of "look at me" syndrome - Mr Sierra became Mr Mondeo, but now that he's Mr 3-series he thinks he's gone up in the world, and since he now owns the road, he'll drive accordingly. I would argue that current BMW drivers are far worse than Ford/Vauxhall drivers of days gone by.
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X5's are often driven appallingly too.
Cheers>> DP
Often, but not always by females.
As an aside what the hell is it about young women in 206's or saxos. Brain dead.........smoking........... on the 'phone and obviously no idea of the speed they are doing given the circumstances.
Yours in great despair..............MD
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Most people seem to think BMW drivers are pushy and hustling. Only I seem to have noticed that quite a lot of them (BMWs being so common) are indeed like stereotyped Volvo drivers, slow, jerky, hesitant, wandering from lane to lane in a passively aggressive manner without signalling and generally begging for a flying kick up the jaxie.
Of course I wouldn't dream of stereotyping drivers of any make. So many people are in borrowed or stolen cars or ones they have got into and driven away in by mistake.
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I must say, up in N.Wales the 'mantle' of BMW driving-ness goes to Vauxhall Vectra (usually P,R or S reg.) drivers. Almost without fail, they're driven by chippy looking men & women with no idea that the orange bits of plastic on the corners of their cars really have a function more than ornamentation. Vectras seem to be highly regarded & aspired to around here, (even in basic 'DWP' spec.) and not the in the slightest arriviste.
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Can't say I have an issue with BMW drivers where I am
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Round here (N Satffs/S Cheshire) it's Cayenne S , X5s, a stretched Hummer (!) limo and various Clio 172s that are driven by people who clearly own the road and possess magic spells transforming a narrow two lane road with a 30 mph limit into a 3 lane motorway with a minimum sped limit of 60mph..
Not to mention The Range Rover Sports who drive at 40mph through 50cm of water and soak me on my morning runs...(in a 30 limit of course).
Taxi drivers are saints.
madf
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I just can't comprehend why you would waste those beautiful North Wales roads on an early Vectra...
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Question ....when was the last time a BMW owner let you out ?
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"Question ....when was the last time a BMW owner let you out ?"
Answer: when it was stuck in ice despite traction control last winetr:-)))))))
madf
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Question ....when was the last time a BMW owner let you out ?
More to the point - when did he last indicate correctly on a roundabout?
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Question ....when was the last time a BMW owner let you out ?
About 20 minutes ago actually, as I was driving out of the Sainsbury's car park near Thorpe Park in Leeds where I'd been to buy some lunch. A brand new 3 series coupe was kind enough to let me out into the queue of traffic.
That said, on my drive to work this morning there was an old style 320d that seemed determined to sit 3 inches from my rear bumper despite me a) speeding up every time the traffic allowed, as I wanted to go faster too, and b) there being nowhere in front for him to go if I let him past!
Just shows you there are good and bad BMW drivers just as anyone else. I quite often drive a company pool BMW and always try to be a kind driver to dispel the idea that all BMW drivers are bad.
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Lots of drivers are pretty carp and some are truly appalling. However there is no correlation between skill and courtesy - clumsy drivers can be pathetically well-meaning - and no correlation between rude or bad driving and any make or type of car.
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why did you need a BMW owner to let you out? had you forgotten how to operate the door handle or something? :-)
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Are BMW ever going to do a recall to retrofit indicators to there cars.
I thought about a E39 once and realised that the costs of swmbo and myself to have private hypnotherapy to enable us to ignore the most common road courtesy by others would have made the move far too expensive.
ttfn
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yawn.
This must be the most boring and pathetic post this month.
Let's generalise about drivers of a certain make of car.
Porsche drivers are all pink fluffy dice
Vauxhall/Ford/Peugeot/Citreon/Renault drivers are all too poor to own a German car
etc
etc
How about those for generalisations.
Do people post these threads in order to get others to rise or do they truly have such small minds that they think like this?
Edited by Dynamic Dave on 12/10/2007 at 20:14
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What you driving these days Angelman?
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Mitsubishi
(sometimes)
oh - and surprise - an e39 5 series estate - which doesn't have any indicators attached to it and no mirrors either.
Edited by angelman on 12/10/2007 at 17:58
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Do people post these threads in order to get others to rise or do they truly have such small minds that they think like this?
To quote from a previous thread:
and for what it is worth, I would far rather have some idiot thinking he was cool and using side & fog lights than some Volvo driver using his running lights (dipped main)
Some small-minded people do indeed make generalisations.
In that very same thread - if you bother to look - I did say that the accusation against BMW drivers was somewhat unjustified.
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as Volvos have DRL set to be on the whole time I can't see the relevance and anyway not really a generalisation, more a fact.
Edited by angelman on 12/10/2007 at 17:55
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as Volvos have DRL set to be on the whole time.
Funny, they don't seem to be on mine. Facts, eh?.....
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yawn. This must be the most boring and pathetic post this month.
So - what model of bmw do *you* have?
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Anyone who takes this thread seriously is as sad as I am:-)
madf
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look a bit further up
I really don't care on a personal front what is said on an anonymous forum. I just find pigeon holing a tad boring and the BMW bit is about 20 years old now and I really thought that a site like this might have gotten past it.
Might just as well say that all Vaux Nova/Corsa drivers are Chavs but then that would be boring and pathetic.
As a total aside, the one thing that I would say is that I currently have a 318i on loan and really can't understand why anyone would want to buy on.
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really can't understand why anyone would want to buy on.
Well, I'll make a small-minded generalisation, and say that some small-minded people associate the BMW brand with success and status. Hence, that's why they buy them.
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But there are some that buy them because scarily enough they reckon that they are good motors and accept some imperfections in life and try not to stereotype other people with bigoted and flawed views of the world. Each to his/her own ! Just done a quick analyses of my regular clients - none of them drive BMWs !
Edited by Pugugly {P} on 12/10/2007 at 20:50
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my regular clients - none of them drive BMWs !
Er... what do they drive then PU? Corsas? Veyrons? We're all agog.
I don't stereotype drivers of particular makes. But I do stereotype drivers from particular areas of London. The most carp as a group are from and in St John's Wood. They don't all drive the same make of car but they tend to drive expensive ones. Bad cess to them.
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Exactly Lud far more articulate than me. Mainly Veyrons these days :-)))
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Go on then, lend us a grand PU.... :o}
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Do people post these threads in order to get others to rise or do they truly have such small minds that they think like this?
I think it's called b-a-n-t-e-r , like wot you do down the pub wiv' yer mates. (unless they drive BMWs that is!)
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