" just who buys this stuff and how is it disposed of."
easy
Car boot sales
Liverpool
Pubs
Liverpool
Manchester
Pawn shops
Liverpool
madf
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Hi Mdf
Surely Liverpool should appear at least 2 more times in your list if it is to be accurate :>)
As always
Mark
(Lives but 17 miles from Liverpool)
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Two points
One- I got my first TTom almost two years ago and on my first long-distance trip afterwards ( ie the first good opportunity to make use of it ) , within 30 mins of being parked in a Holiday Inn car park, within sight of reception, and at 1930, my side window was smashed by someone looking for it . I had taken the device in the hotel with me ,but not thought of taking the mount off the window ( it had taken me 10 mins starting out, to get it to stick there).
On the same evening another car had the same thing done.
The police told me it was the most frequent cause of car break-ins now , and that even removing the mount is not enough safeguard, as people look for the marks on the windscreen left by the sucker (?!)
Second- this was in YORK. I am from Liverpool, though live now in Oxford, and frequently visit Liverpool- often parking in "rough" areas, and have done for 30 + years .It may be tempting fate,and statistically unconvincing, but I have never had my car attacked ( in fact I am inclined to be offended- what's wrong with it?)
Where has my car been got at:
YORK- twice
BASINGSTOKE-twice
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.. The thieves had pressed the "home" button to find the route the family had saved on their sat nav system. ..
oh yeah, pull the other one. i suppose the thieves told the journalist or the police that this is how they found the house.
it is easy to find the "home address" from other bits of "stuff" left in the car. not least from your number plate from the dvla and paying under £3 for the info.
then using the home address, you can find our how much your mortgage is, your mortgage account details, get a copy of your signature - all from the land registry over the internet.
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I actually think this sounds very plausible, and in my case, quite worrying. I have TomTom which I always remove (even before getting to my destination) to prevent anyone seeing it.
However, my TT does contain my "Home" and it also has the phone number stored on it as well.
I always leave my house keys in the car because I have no reason / need to take them into my office each day.
I now need to rethink this!
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2007 Seat Altea XL 2.0 TDI (140) Stylance
2005 Skoda Fabia vrS
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Just re-programmed mine to the Post Code of a well known violent Criminal. (joke by the way. actually to the local nick, they can burgle that instead)
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That sounds a very practical solution Pugugly , i.e. having your 'home' address close but not the actual address in the nav.
Some precautions I take:
- never leave home location identifying info in the car - this includes receipts, letters etc.
- never leave keys (even hidden) in the car - not only may this tie-in with home address info if car is stolen, but you're also locked out!
- I leave a tatty looking baseball cap visible in the car, leave my (full!) ashtray open , maybe a discarded (used) tissue on the seat - this may sound vaguely revolting , but they all deter a mite as the car doesn't look so desirable.
These all in addition to the 'standard' advice of not leaving spangly-sparkly desirables on view & parking in places with over-view & busy-ness.
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I've never programmed my home destination into my TomTom. The destination that is my home is named as something else in my favourites, and I leave my phone number out of it.
But then I've been thinking, I leave my car insurance policy (with my name and address on) in the car in case I have a bump and need to exchange details. Maybe I need to rethink this (just make a note of the policy details and carry those around with me....)
Chris
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Yes Chris, if your (stolen but unreported) car happened (I did say happen people) to be stopped, the thief would know your basic details well enough to convince the Police. My Insurance company give you a little credit card sized thing to carry with the Policy number on it. I reckon I can remember mt name and address for the other bits.
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Having heard this story many times before it amazes me that anybody actually puts their complete home address into the sat-nav "home" function.Wouldn't most folks be able to locate their own house when driving down the street where they live , or through the town where they live. Duh!!!
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With hindsight, yes it is may be silly to put your home address in but is it really an issue if your house keys aren't in the car?
Anyone can chap my door and if they don't get an answer then can assume my house is empty. So what good is it to them what my address is on a sat nav unit?
One of the reasons I have Home programmed in is that I use my sat nav to work out my mileage expenses.
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2007 Seat Altea XL 2.0 TDI (140) Stylance
2005 Skoda Fabia vrS
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Well after reading the article I have driven down to the part time Fuz shop, parked outside & programmed home! thanks for raisng the issue
Regards Doc, Ooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh my eyes are hurting with this small print!
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surely there is no need to program in "home"???
i just program somewhere close to home,,i know my way home from about a radius of 30 odd miles ,so i only need a local area,,not my actual home address?!?!?!?
i usually type in "bournemouth" rather than "exact home address"
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surely there is no need to program in "home"???
I've still got the previous owners address stored in mine. Must RTFM at some point to find out how to change it.
As Storme says though, once you're near home, you shouldn't need satnav guidance right to your own doorstep anyway.
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As Storme says though, once you're near home, you shouldn't need satnav guidance right to your own doorstep anyway>>
I use it for estimated time of arrival/distance to go and not directions.
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I use it for estimated time of arrival/distance to go and not directions.
Then find a landmark 'x' miles / 'x' minutes from your house and store the landmark in the system instead.
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How many of you put your home address on your luggage when you go on holiday?
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< Ex RF, Ex TVM >
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How many of you put your home address on your luggage when you go on holiday?
Not me! I put the address I'm going to on it so the bag can follow me when it gets lost in the airport... {name generalised for naming / shaming reasons - DD}
If you need to enter a home address in your SatNav for expenses/finding your way back/because it won't let you not, put in the post office of your home town. When you look up a route planner (or a good old fashioned road gazateer), the distance between towns is calculated between the GPO in each town anyway, so your calculated mileage won't be out. And as was said above, if the SatNav can point you in the general direction of home, surely you can find your own way back from the post office...?
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>>How many of you put your home address on your luggage when you go on holiday?<<
I do but it doesn't make much difference, the cases still do a world tour!
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"I've still got the previous owners address stored in mine"
Did you get it in Liverpool?
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The latest software update for my TomTom One added a lock with PIN facility.
My TomTom now displays my name and mobile number and asks for a PIN when you turn it on. Not sure how secure it is, but makes it more difficult for the thief to easily pull your home address off it.
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They said they were going to do that yesterday on the radio(steam).
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My 'home' is saved as a waypoint with a code and it's actually a supermarket anyway.
As for luggage and going on holiday - a job on the last day is to put my home address on the label - never before.
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anyone who needs a satnav to find their way home... - no I'd better not say it...
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I find I don't need it at the end of the journey, but at the beginning.
Two examples:
I follow a rugby team and go to away matches. Smaller rugby clubs are often tucked away in a maze of residential streets well off the beaten track. You get there watch the game then get back to your car and have no idea which streets you came down. I'm surrounded by streets and some signs telling me how to get to various suburbs of the city I am in. Not being local I have no idea where the suburb is in relation to where I am. I need to get on the right road out of the place and on the motorway to get me home - this is why it's useful.
Just last Friday I went to a new area of the city I have lived in for 17 years. Used satnav to get to the address and found it no problems. To get there I had been down a couple of one way streets, so going back the way I had come to get home was a problem. Set sat nav to "home" and it got me to a main road I recognised and from there it was easy.
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I follow a rugby team >>
Which one?
Set sat nav to "home" >>
The point being though, that you could enter a point a mile away from your house and satnav will still get you on your homeward route.
That way, a thief can't find his way to your front door.
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'Home' on my Sat Nav is a road through the woods near where I live.
Oz (as was)
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I will ask again, why is this an issue if you don't leave your house keys in the car???
So someone smashes your window and steals your sat nav? What does it matter where you live? In fact, it you have home stored and, by chance, the thief gets caught, you have better chance of being reunited with your sat nav surely?
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2007 Seat Altea XL 2.0 TDI (140) Stylance
2005 Skoda Fabia vrS
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Indeed, for some years I've had my address in the local telephone book. No burglaries yet. Why would a burglar follow a Sat Nav's direction to my house when they must pass thousands of other equally burglable (is that a real word?) places on the way there?
Finding where the owner of a car lives is not too hard, either via legitimate means or other. For instance, ring the dealer - number usually on a handy sticker, "Hello, you normally send me a service reminder but I haven't had one lately, could I check that you have my new address on your system please?"
This story is nothing to do with Sat Navs and all about not leaving your car keys in your car.
Terry...
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and i will ask again:
how does anyone know that the thieves used the sat-nav to find "home" ?
presume the thief left a note at the house to tell everyone that that was what he/she had done?
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Well put it like this. Car gets broken into at "Wherever A" and Sat Nav with home details is nicked - Victim's house is also broken into at "Wherever B" whilst they are out. FAar deduction I would imagine, the thieves' would have made a fair assumption if the car is A the house at B is empty and acted upon it. It would have been one hell of a coincidence if the two crimes weren't linked.
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My built-in SatNav has been set to home as my actual house, through not thinking otherwise (as I'm sure many are the same). Having a Home set in the SatNav is useful if you're anywhere you don't know, in order to get out the town. I agree I should change it to somewhere in the rough vicinity of the house since it does the same job. It was just that after buying the car while sitting in the drive I stored the current location. A second destination also named home is my parents house, to half throw off the trail.
The story in the OP is opportunistic - toerags could put time and effort into finding someone's identity. But if they get hold of someone's SatNav with home address and keys, they know the family won't be coming home from Alton Towers until the end of the day, giving a bit of time to clear the house. They want a same day burglary. Same could be said for SatNavs on display at an airport car park, but it may not be the entire family abroad.
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What is SAT NAV?
Is it an advance on these double A3 sized paper maps I use?
Why doesn't my hobby-horse (penny-quarter-of-a-penny hit the swear filter, c'mon mods get real) fit these cycle rack thingies?
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Pennyfarthing ?
Seems to work with me with no special powers employed.
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I must remember to rub out the circle I drew round my house in my road atlas.
Surely this applies just as much to having anything in the car with your home address on it?
The argument ref "the house must be empty so they go and burgle it"; I suspect you'll find the house keys were in the car or something similar. The reasoning? Well, if I picked up a car at Alton Towers, why would I drive to Shropshire to burgle someone in the hope that Granny isn't at home?
It's so easy to find an empty house that it's not worth a five minute drive to find one, let alone an hour or so. Knock on door. If answered, "Is this David McBride's house?" - "Oh, I must have the wrong address". Repeat until you find an empty house. Burgle. So easy that it makes me suspect the house keys may have been in the car.
All speculation, of course, but reasoned speculation.
V
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I assume the car was just sat there on the drive. Faux pas.
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