I just rung the local vauxhall dealer.
Oil - 5w-30
20L can = £160
4L can = £40
So, there is absolutely no benefit in buying the larger can.
Aprilia, surely these are not the prices you buy for?
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Sorry, I typed the above assuming that the price of £40 was for a 5L can. Double checked - my mistake. There IS a benefit in buying the larger can/drum.
However, at £8 a litre it is quite dear.
How does one qualify for the £2 per liter that Aprilia referred to?
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Sorry I typed the above assuming that the price of £40 was for a 5L can. Double checked - my mistake. There IS a benefit in buying the larger can/drum. However at £8 a litre it is quite dear. How does one qualify for the £2 per liter that Aprilia referred to?
£40 for 5 litre!! That's taking the Mick. Surely that is the price they charge it out at when doing an oil change. I don't know what the retail prices are at the Vauxhall dealer, I am in their 'Trade Club' - have been for many years - so never asked their retail prices. There is another poster on here (Old Man ??) who also buys GM oil and I think pays similar prices to me, although obviously at a different dealer...
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I don't know what the retail prices are at the Vauxhall dealer
The last time I bought some of "Vauxhalls" 10w/40 semi synth, it was something like £21 for a 5 litre container from the parts dept.
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The last time I bought some of "Vauxhalls" 10w/40 semi synth it was something like £21 for a 5 litre container from the parts dept.
Around the same price as Halfords then. I usually buy Tesco's 10w40 semi/synth £7 for 2 litres - my car only takes 3.2 litres so I just buy 2 of these. Have bought from a motor factor before - best price for 10w40 s/synth I've paid was £9.95+VAT for 5 litres.
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I just rung the local vauxhall dealer. Oil - 5w-30 20L can = £160 4L can = £40
So there is absolutely no benefit in buying the larger can.
?????
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My posting links to sites with relevant information does not imply that I necessarily agree with what is there. I am simply trying to help by opening up other angles.
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I buy oil as I buy toilet rolls, and screws and Tomato Ketchup and washing powder and various other frequently used houshold goods which keep with age and are regularly consumed.
I wait until there is a special offer and buy enough then to last until the approximate date of the next offer.. With screws it's about 3 months from Aldi and Lidl, washing powder ditto and oil every 9 months from Halfords.. half price.
You need to be organised and have storage but it's amazing how you can reduce the bills for these items by between 30 and 50%.
madf
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Very true. You just know that in the next 9-12 months Halfords will do 5 litres of fully synthetic for £16. They always do. At these prices for non-trade people, I can't see any point in using anything else. Really only French hypermarket synthetic can beat it. £12 for 5 litres at Auchan about 6 months ago.
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For example of purchasing savings Tesco have £3.38 off a 5kg box of Persil non bio washing powder...Nearly 40%. We bought 3 months supply.
madf
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I am simply trying to help by opening up other angles.
ditto. agreed.
opinions, that is what discussion is about.
facts, now that is something different altogether.
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Until about 3 weeks ago, National ran a promotion - for £25 they will do a oil change using fully synthetic. If I remember correctly, they advertised that they used Druckhams (sp?). At these sorts of prices, it makes sense to get it done by these people. Or does it not?
Can we be 100% certain that they will indeed fill up the car with the advertised product?
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My local Ford dealer charges £18.00 for 5 litres of Formula E 5/30, I persume it is semi.
I've just returned from a holiday in France and I saw 5/40 fully synthetic for 19.99 Euros for 5 ltrs in a supermarket.
Could I use that in a Zetec engine?
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I would ONLY use 5/30 in a Zetec as it is what Ford specify and there are well known issues using the wrong spec with this engine.
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Thanks madf, I thought that would be the answer, couldn't find any 5/30 in France so didn't buy any.
What I may do is buy some Formula E at the parts counter and ask the service dept to use that instead of the Castrol they charge £6 a litre for. I have noticed that my Focus sounds more rattlely from a cold start since the last service. Our mobile mechanic uses Comma for SWMBOs Fiesta and it is virtually silent.
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I use Comma for all oil (semi synthetic) and have done for 6 years in older son's Peugoet 106. It has now doen 90k miles - and still uses no oil between services. Lots in motor factors.
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Any idea who makes Tesco's or Carlube's oils? Been using both recently without any hassle, would be interesting to know whose oils they really are!
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Any idea who makes Tesco's or Carlube's oils? Been using both recently without any hassle, would be interesting to know whose oils they really are!
ESSO own Carlube and Comma and probably ESSO oil in the TESCO bottle, they will get a better price buying several brands from one place than splitting and they are also in bed with ESSO for retail fuel sales.
Edited by Hamsafar on 15/12/2013 at 10:25
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Any idea who makes Tesco's or Carlube's oils? Been using both recently without any hassle, would be interesting to know whose oils they really are!
ESSO own Carlube and Comma and probably ESSO oil in the TESCO bottle, they will get a better price buying several brands from one place than splitting and they are also in bed with ESSO for retail fuel sales.
Carlube is owned by Tetrosyl Group which is independent and 100% owned by Peter David Schofield.
Comma was owned by Exxon (Esso) but subsequently sold in 2012 to Cosan Lubrificantes e Especialidades S.A. in Brazil
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As well as Carlube, Tetrosyl also own Motor World and Quinton Hazell
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When I owned a Morris Minor side valve, 1950s split screen version, in Zambia during the 1970s the head gasket periodically failed and admitted water into the cylinder. When I tried to start the engine via the self starter there would be a thudding noise, so I knew that I had to get it started via the handle. I would lean on the handle until the water had been forced out of the cylinder and then spin the handle until the engine fired on one or two cylinders. When the third cylinder fired I knew I could drive home - the fourth cylinder joined in after a few hundred yards.
Zambia was very short of ready currency so engine oil was sold at a ridiculous price - if you could get it. So, a couple of days later I would crack the sump plug and drain off the water until it showed oil and then tighten up again. Then I would change the head gasket - of which I kept a few spares. Oh, for those far off simple days ! When you consider it, the price of oli now is not so different from the astronomical price it was then.
Considering bottled water : Confucious is said to have commented about fools and money being parted. My son was staying in a hotel with a posh restaurant and observed the chef filling up bottles with 'big' labels from the water tap in the kitchen.
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Considering bottled water : Confucious is said to have commented about fools and money being parted. My son was staying in a hotel with a posh restaurant and observed the chef filling up bottles with 'big' labels from the water tap in the kitchen.
Several water boards do that as well - I pay £1.0249 per cu. m.for my South Staffs tap water, that's 10 litres for a penny - it's £1.99 for 6 litres at Aldi - from exactly the same supply.
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Thread drift alert! Another scam is somelliers at posh restaurants selling carefully handled bottles with prestige labels, out of the back door, for filling with cheapo plonk and getting resold at the prestige price!
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I have tried cheap plonk in my engine but it doesn't work ...
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"I have tried cheap plonk in my engine but it doesn't work ..."
Have you tried it in the radiator ?
Back to the price of oil : I used to take my Voilvo 440 to an independent who used a brand of oil I didn't recognise. His premises were a mess and he employed some dodgy people, but the car was running nicely at 130,000 miles when we sold it on.
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"I have tried cheap plonk in my engine but it doesn't work ..."
Have you tried it in the radiator ?
Back to the price of oil : I used to take my Voilvo 440 to an independent who used a brand of oil I didn't recognise. His premises were a mess and he employed some dodgy people, but the car was running nicely at 130,000 miles when we sold it on.
Brand is pretty much irrelevant as long as it meets the correct manufacturers or ACEA spec for the car (and visocity of course).
Problem is most independents have a one size fits all policy and buy it in bulk, this can cause problems for makes that have very specific requriements. And its not just independants, the wifes Kia Ceed is a CRDi with a DPF, Kia are specific with the oil, ACEA C3 5w 30 fully synth. One of our local dealers shares the site with a main Ford dealer, they use Ford spec oil which is ACEA A1 5w 30 semi synthetic, cheap as chips but wrong.
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The issue of franchised dealers using "one size fits all" bulk oil seemed to happen a lot after DPF's were introduced when they carried on using the same old oil instead of a DPF-compatible grade like ACEA-C3 - I wonder if this is part of the reason for early DPF failure for a number of owners?
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Whatever happened to Aprilia?
Edited by quizman on 16/12/2013 at 19:13
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>> I just rung the local vauxhall dealer. >> Oil - 5w-30 >> 20L can = £160 >> 4L can = £40 >> So there is absolutely no benefit in buying the larger can. ?????
Really........
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>> I just rung the local vauxhall dealer. >> Oil - 5w-30 >> 20L can = £160 >> 4L can = £40 >> So there is absolutely no benefit in buying the larger can. ?????
Really........
Just proves the education system produces a poor standard of arithmetic skill. My mother left school at the age of 14 but still knew her times tables. Also worked for years in a shop with no calculating tills such as there are nowadays (and in pounds, shillings and pence!)
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>> I just rung the local vauxhall dealer. >> Oil - 5w-30 >> 20L can = £160 >> 4L can = £40 >> So there is absolutely no benefit in buying the larger can. ?????
Really........
Just proves the education system produces a poor standard of arithmetic skill. My mother left school at the age of 14 but still knew her times tables. Also worked for years in a shop with no calculating tills such as there are nowadays (and in pounds, shillings and pence!)
However, internet speeds haven't improved - that original post was over 6 years ago !!
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