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Yes, I had our local Chips Away guy do mine, after someone had left a nice wide scrape on my car's front bumper. Amazing job, you'd never know it was there. Was quite expensive though - about £80, but better than having the hassle of the whole thing going into a garage for a respray.
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I am designing and buying a bathroom with a high level cistern, with a gold chain so there.
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You are quite lucky if you find any new car with what a 'reasonable man', to use the legal phrase, would regard as bumpers. What most cars have is fragile, expensive, complicated and totally useless (as bumpers) ornamental end panels.
Manufacturers mutter weaselish stuff about crumple zones etc., but this is total and utter carp. In fact this whole development is a disgrace, and a sign of the utter financial depravity of the automobile industry.
Bring back bumpers, whether the manufacturers and aftermarket want them or not!
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You know not about what you spout Lud. fragile, expensive, complicated and totally useless (as bumpers) ornamental end panels. absorb more momentum (10 mph with no marks most of them) than any old chromed iron girder ever used to. 5 mph in any of them would leave a dent in the bumber, but worse transmit the shocks into the chasis where they frequently kinked.
fact this whole development is a disgrace, and a sign of the utter financial depravity of the automobile industry.
Oh Perlease! what rubbish. Get back to writing letters to the thunderer!
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Kind of you to defend the automobile industry against my slanders TVM.
Have you ever seen an early Focus rear 'bumper' after someone has caught the corner of one on something? This is not a cheap component, and it takes very little to damage it. Perhaps some cars are better than that, but I do see an awful lot of very gouged-looking body-coloured bumpers.
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Holds nose and pulls gold chain theatrically.
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Holds nose and pulls gold chain theatrically.
Your lack of taste is renown.
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I think my lack of renown is to your taste though, innit?
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Short of a proper galvanised steel RSJ as used to be fitted to proper LandRovers, the next best thing is a Volvo-style tough aluminium girder encased in thick unbreakable black plastic.
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Quite CP. I don't know why these wallies defend 'bumpers' whose purpose, and protective qualities, are the same as those of lipstick.
I think they are fashion victims (if that's the right expression).
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I am a wally now then eh?
> protective qualities, are the same as those of lipstick.
Do me a personal favour lud, go out find out some facts before you spout drivel on here? Thanks mate.
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I am a wally now then eh?
Of course not TVM. Moment of madness on my part.
But I have as much right to spout drivel on here as, er, you have.
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Indeed you do, and you are unsurpassed at that art lud. I couldnt hope to compete.
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Never mind lad. Keep trying. Your efforts so far are patchy.
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As is your hair I understand?
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Perhaps it just body-coloured?
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Modesty prevents me from continuing this conversation (but LOL CP!)
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I'm with Lud on this one.
Why can't we have black rubber bumpers? Getting hard to find a car with proper bumpers and now they have got rid of side rubbing strips. First thing I did when I got a Grandis for SWMBO was to put side and corner rubbing strips on (not that they did much good).
How else are you supposed to park in small spaces? Parking sensors be damned - the proper way is to use your bumpers and then you know you can't go any further. Sensors stop you about 4 foot short. If it was black rubber bumper to black rubber bumper there was never a problem. Now a days you practically shove the boot into the drivers compartment.
Two cars that I always see with stoved in bumpers are Audis A3s and A4s and Chrysler Voyagers especially on the corners.
Best bumper I ever had was on my old old Volvo 340. Someone hit me at about 20mph - no damage what so ever to my car.
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I think Lud and TVM are actually arguing subtley different things (or they were until they went on to the 'baldy' issue!) and are both right.
TVM is arguing that modern bumpers do in fact protect the car itself very much, meaning that in a slow speed crash the car will be undamaged. This is probably true.
Lud is arguing that the fact that the slightest touch results in a scrape up the bumper itself, which costs hundreds to fix, means that they aren't much help after all. This is also probably true.
Kiss and make up guys.
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How else are you supposed to park in small spaces? Parking sensors be damned - the proper way is to use your bumpers and then you know you can't go any further.
If anyone parks by 'touching' my car, then I'll be hard pressed to stop myself helping out by 'touching' their face!
Regardless of the colour of their bumpers.
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Now Now - kiss and make up bazza ;-)
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I think that lud lives in the world where he knows what things cost.
and tvm has fully incomprehensible insurance.
for my bit'---
chrome bumpers as said did indeed go rusty and i still have scars where slivers of chrome pierced my digits,but at least you could wack them straight with a peined hammer and paint them matt black refit and the job was done (good enough for any 10 mph shunt i think)
I currently require a rear bumper for a mk 5 fiesta as the one fitted has a bit missing where it went over a kerb? a new bumper for this old thing (cheapest ) IS £145 plus painting,so hardly a technical advancement for your pocket
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You could be right bb. Scuffed bumpers, provided they aren't hanging off at some sort of distasteful angle, seem normal to me as a metropolitan motorist, and insurance claims are something to be avoided. My motoring is not subsidised.
I see that BazzaBear has joined the anti-shunting jihadist group started by DD the moderator :o)
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I see that BazzaBear has joined the anti-shunting jihadist group started by DD the moderator :o)
Sorry Lud, but to my eyes, my GTA (body coloured bumpers and all) looks bloomin' gorgeous. I'm unlikely to take kindly to watching someone drive into it, regardless of how slowly they do so.
I might be slightly mollified if I then found there was no damage, but I know my own luck, and that just isn't the way it would work out for me.
BTW, my previous 'walked into' post was referring to TVM telling me to make up.
BTWx2, since we're talking about chrome bumpers, the Aston which I hired for my wedding had them. When I washed it on the morning, just before getting clobbered up for church, I managed to cut my finger on the reverse of the bumper which was razor sharp. I still have the scar to remember that car by (If Jenny is reading this, I mean to remember that day by, obviously, not the car).
So, convoluted and daft as the reasoning is: I like chrome bumpers, because they cut you.
I think that's right...
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I fear I may have walked right into that one.
No bumper scuffs though luckily.
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Quite Bazza, no one would want their nice car to be damaged by careless or brutal parkers. But I'm sure you don't ask to be shunted by parking in the middle of a 2-car slot in the residents' bays or that sort of thing, do you?
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The rsie and fall of the bumper:
My 1929 Riley had none.
My 1947 Rover had a very solid 1/8inch thick steel front bumper, chromed, with balance weights at each end to tune the front suspension (axle on two leaf springs)
My 1953 Rover 75 had a two/three ? Piece cromed front bumper... but much thinner and rusty.
My 1960 Mini had a very thing carp piece of rpessed steel chromed which was decorative and served no useful purpose except to break pedestrians' legs instead of cutting then to bits using the welded seams behind it. When rusty it would achieve both pruposes.
My Montego had a coloured peiece of flimsy paalstic which was broken and peeled ..
My 1986? Sierra had ? Can't recall
My Mercedes 260E had a quiet substantial affair.
And my wife's 106 has a very sturdy black plastic one..as is my Yaris's (sturdy but not apinted).
I call that progress..
madf
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But I'm sure you don't ask to be shunted by parking in the middle of a 2-car slot in the residents' bays or that sort of thing do you?
But what's to say that they did park in the middle of a 2-car slot? Maybe he / she parked there earlier and other cars since parked willy nilly making it look like they had parked taking up two spaces. Do they still deserve to be shunted? In fact, do they deserve to be shunted at all? What gives you (or anyone else for that matter) the right to wantingly drive into someone else's pride and joy?
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I feel the responsible members of the motoring community should, in these difficult times, unite against these jihadist terrorists.
On the flimsy excuse that some friend of theirs got a stone chip out of the front valance of their Honda R, or that the holy book of property-owners' rights recommends harsh penalties for malicious damage, these crazed fanatics threaten all and sundry with physical violence.
It's true that the motoring policies of the Blair government have (in the opinion of the fanatics themselves and even large numbers of confused but essentially moderate motorists) helped create this climate of threat and fear.
We must not let these people interfere with our way of life.
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mmmmmmmmm
lud for presidenty
all vote luddy ;-)
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I fear I may have walked right into that one. No bumper scuffs though luckily.
Sort of. I do have sensors as well so was playing devils advocate a bit but they do stop you well short - must be about 6-8 inches that you can still use.
But I am getting soooooo bored of coming out in the morning and seeking scrapes down the car. Mines not too bad as it has body coloured skirts but with black bumpery things (not proper bumpers but better than nothing). However if we all had big, black rubber bumpers then this sort of thing would not happen, at the cost of aesthetics.
Next door is doing some work and there is a skip in place and then a small gap before "our" disabled bay. Enough for a small car. Car parked in their last week and when I opened up the curtains I said to the Mrs "your car's been scraped" as there was no way in hell that the gap was big enough. Left a rude note on the car but to be honest what more can be done for a small paint chip on the plastic front bumper? Having said that when enough scratches appear it does look awful.
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Of body coloured bumpers.........not...........I have just looked at the new Seat Freetrack!!
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I have fond memories of the white rubber over-riders on my Dad's Ford Anglia (de-luxe) in around 1963. He paid quite a few bob for them to protect his chromed bumbers. I haven't a clue what he'd think of it all now.
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