Your favourite car manufacturer - LinuxGeek
We always talk about I like this car or that car but I really would like to know "your favourite car manufacturer". We were having discussion at work yesterday about different car manufacturers, how they make good or bad cars, how pricey they're etc..
My favourite manufacturer is Mazda without doubt because they make ***very reliable*** cars, the cars are reasonably priced and quite easy to maintain.
I dislike Renault the most becasue they just want to make good looking cars, I think they never even try to improve the reliability of their cars.
While replying please also state why you like a particular manufacturer or why you dislike one!
Your favourite car manufacturer - leef
I suppose I'll have to say Ford, mainly because my humble D Reg escort was my 1st ever car and some cracking memory's even though it broke down more than Johnny Wilkinson in a rugby match. I've had renaults, Clio and Laguna since then, Also driven Audi A4's and BMW 320D as company cars. Current car is a Mondeo and I love it!..... so Ford it is! :)
Your favourite car manufacturer - Sim-O
I think mine has to be Ford.
I think it is because I have fond memories of owning and getting up to mischief in them as a yoof.
Also because of the mighty RS.
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Your favourite car manufacturer - kithmo
Ford for me too. They've always been easy and cheap to repair and spares are obtainable in abundance. As a second hand buy, the low residuals make them a lot of car for the money and to top it all, they are now more reliable than they were. You've got to love 'em
Your favourite car manufacturer - Jonwm {P}
I'm going with Ford too, can't get enough of them, i've only ever brought a ford although driven many others being a company car driver.
Did a swap for a night last week to get a Mondeo ST for the night, loved it!!

I think i have most of the brochures form the Ford range for the mid to late 80's to 2000, did my work experince at Ford Dealer Jessups in Stourbridge, quality dealer then spent most of my salary when i was 18 - 19 keeping a L Reg bright red escort 1.6 ghia running, i was the envy of all my mates, the car was always going wrong but just couldnt help love it, I think my '00 Zetec Focus was the best car i ever owned, the handling was amazing, looked great, big mistake changing it i think!

Always dreamed of a cosworth, i hope to be able to buy one next year! ...keep saving!

Jon
Your favourite car manufacturer - cheddar
I would also say Ford because I have had better service from them than other mainstream manufacturers, I also like their unpretentious approach to producing good value and dynamically superior vehicles.

In a similar way Yamaha is probably my favourite brand per se', because they also have an unpretentious approach though have so strong technology and craftmanship credentials across such a wide gamut of products.

On the otherhand, Ferrari ..............................
Your favourite car manufacturer - DrS
You've gotta love guys like Renault and Citroen for making cars like the Avantime, Vel Satis, C6, etc.
And Chrysler. (PT, 300, etc)
They make the world a more interesting place.
Your favourite car manufacturer - bell boy
a bristol for me..............eat your eart out lud

better still two bristols
Your favourite car manufacturer - billy25
Anybody who hasn't driven one of the Triumph 2litre range of cars in the 70's has missed out on something special. Stylish, Fast, Comfortable, Reliable - yes! but not only way ahead of thier own time, but anything else on the road at the time (exc. supercars, rolls, type things obviously), Bring 'em back and re-incarnate them into the present , i says!!
Your favourite car manufacturer - Lud
I like them too bb. No personal experience alas but I have the impression their standards of engineering are very high, and their old-fashioned side is a plus too as far as I'm concerned. The company is very snooty though, because it has a solid niche market and doesn't have to curry favour with anyone except rich Bristol owners.

I would only eat my heart out if you didn't have a 401 or 402 as one of your pair.
Your favourite car manufacturer - local yokel
Bentley - craftsmanship, history, and a cracking car.
Your favourite car manufacturer - bathtub tom
'Anybody who hasn't driven one of the Triumph 2litre range of cars in the 70's has missed out on something special. '

Yeah sure, great to drive, but don't put too much power down, 'cos if it don't break the gearbox, it'll do the diff. Oh, and don't forget how those sliding splines in the rear suspension used to lock up on the 2000s, and the swing axles on early Vitesses, and............
Your favourite car manufacturer - stunorthants26
My favorite is Bristol, mainly because they stick two finger up at everyone else and continue to build cars their way and seem to manage just fine by doing that. Proper Britishness that.

My more mainstream favorite is without any doubt Subaru - despite selling a narrow range of cars, with often dubious styling and behind the times interior design, they are still hugely desireable cars, if only for their durability and practicality with some driver fun thrown in.

I think the make I would never want to own on principle is Ferrari and not because the cars are terrible, they arent, but to me they embody the image of 'BMW man' for the rich people - its the sort of the car that BMW man buys when he wins the lottery, they spends the rest of his days driving up and down the golf course carpark with is pink shirt and posh sunglasses, never mind the fact that his clubs dont actually fit in the boot.

Renault though, surely takes the honours for the most inconsistant, fragile cars sold today.
Great to look at in most cases and daring design often, but screwed together without a care in the world - every day is a Friday afternoon in a Renault factory.
Its sort of the motoring equivilent of the disposable camera.
Your favourite car manufacturer - PhilW
Citroen.

Maigret and his car, then the DS - beautiful on the move and then when parked they "went to sleep" and gently lowered themselves, single spoke steering wheel, and those high level indicators, seemed so different from other cars. Always wanted one, could never afford one. Then along came the BX - saw one in Strasbourg in 1983(?) and thought - its a Cit, it looks different and it's got that suspension - and it might be in the price range in a couple of years. Got a second -hand one, a 19RD (reg in April 1983 I think - am I a decade out here??) so one of first in UK- did 170k trouble free miles, then a 1.9 TGD, 140k trouble free miles, then a Xantia 1.9TD 95K trouble free miles, now a Xantia 2.0HDi with 95k miles (trouble free engine, but a new electro-valve on the suspension, very expensive at £100ish). And I still think it's a damn good-looking car. And they all had "that suspension" as my Missus says.
Also got a Berlingo - reminds me of the old Renault 4 we used to have in 1970s - practical but good fun!
But what do we replace the Xantia with? - C5 is UGLY - why didn't they just "develop" the Xantia - it's a damn fine looking car - even now!

I am very biassed - hope new C5 is a good-un, and our Xant lasts 'til second-hand ones are available.
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Your favourite car manufacturer - PhilW
P.S - I also covet various Alfas - is there something seriously wrong with my taste in cars?
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Your favourite car manufacturer - Lud
>>Alfas - is there something seriously wrong with my
taste in cars?

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Nothing whatsoever. If only you liked Bristols too you would be up there with Setright (and me in a way) :o)
Your favourite car manufacturer - Lud
Citroen.

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Me too really. I have had three including my first car. But they were all true Citroens, a Light 15 and two 2CV derivatives, and the company has been producing cars that aren't very Citroen-like for some time now, alongside the oleopneumatic-suspended real ones. I thought the C4 diesel I drove was terrific, but they are said to be fragile and it didn't feel all that solid. C6 looks great but might cost a bit to run. And HJ called it a 'boat', which may be a criticism ...
Your favourite car manufacturer - The Purifier
For me it's got to be Honda I think they've done some fantastic cars like the NSX, Integra, Civic Type R etc and they're just so damn reliable!
Your favourite car manufacturer - OldHand
Porsche.

Heritage, engineering triumphing over physics and bringing hyper-car performance within the reach of the common-ish man.
Your favourite car manufacturer - Cheeky
BMW & Jaguar in equal parts. Love the BM's for their roadholding and engine note - always reliable and classy. Simply love Jags for the grace and pace bit...
Your favourite car manufacturer - Brian Tryzers
Many here will have heard this before, but for me it's Saab. Even the models built on GM platforms would never be mistaken for the cars they're based on, and that's mainly because the bits the owner touches are unmistakably Saab.
It's not designed to impress in the showroom, or on a ten-minute test drive, nor is it to the liking of the typical 25-year-old corner-on-the-doorhandles test driver. Judged purely objectively, it may not be the equal of its notional competitors - my last 9-3 was much more easily upset by a mid-bend bump than the Volvo I have now. But a Saab is more than that - it's thoroughly competent, but it inspires trust, confidence and yes, even affection. I was genuinely sad to see my last one go.

The best part for me is the wonderfully comfortable, unfussy Saab interior, whose qualities become apparent when you have to drive something else. There are no tiny, hard-to-read graphics, and no controls hidden behind the steering wheel or down by your ankles. Everything is where you need it, and feels and works exactly right. When I'm driving home in the dark and pouring rain after a long, difficult day, that is just what I need.

My last Saab went back in 2002, and what's happened since hasn't all been good. Someone - probably a GM suit - has seen that a lot of people buy BMWs and wants them to buy Saabs instead. This ignores the significant truth that many of these people buy a Saab because it isn't a BMW or anything like one. Saab's own people, in the UK as well as Sweden, were reportedly unhappy when the 9-3 hatch was replaced with a me-too saloon. So was I, and the 'lifestyle' Sportwagon is not an exact replacement. More recently, the subtle, orange-themed interior has taken an unwelcome step towards BMW-macho black and grey (OH probably approves :-) ) and the 2005 facelift of the 9-5 was an aesthetic - and apparently sales - disaster. Even so, if someone parked a Fusion Blue 9-5 estate on my drive, I'm sure I'd learn to live with the new look.
Your favourite car manufacturer - Altea Ego
You do know of course mazda lover, that your mazdas are in fact Fords?
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TourVanMan TM < Ex RF >
Your favourite car manufacturer - Westpig
Jaguar.........grace and pace as mentioned by Cheeky.....as well as heritage..and compared to the competition, value for money

very few manufacturers get the leather/wood bit right as well (apart from the seriously expensive of course)
Your favourite car manufacturer - Pendlebury
For me it also has to be Honda - a company that has racing and engineering at the core of everything it does.

In my view the bean counters in Honda are people who have to do their stuff after the engineers are finished rather than telling the engineers how much it will cost to make.

And once again this has paid dividends as they have been rated most reliable manufacturer by the consumers association.
Your favourite car manufacturer - sony
Audi. Climb into anyAudi and it immediately feels special. Solid, good looking, understated. No, the A3 is nothing like a golf- Can't bear it when people say that- it's entirely different, there is more to a car than the engine.
Your favourite car manufacturer - LinuxGeek
TVM - I know Mazda is part of Ford group or General Motors group but I don't think they're *in fact Fords* simply because they're still as reliable as they were 10 years ago whereas Fords aren't! Ford could benefit by using Mazda's engines, gearboxes etc.. and I think it is doing so in some cars.
Your favourite car manufacturer - Altea Ego
> as reliable as they were 10 years ago whereas Fords aren't

Bit of a bold statement that? can you back it up?
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TourVanMan TM < Ex RF >
Your favourite car manufacturer - LinuxGeek
> as reliable as they were 10 years ago whereas Fords aren't
Bit of a bold statement that? can you back it up?
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TourVanMan TM < Ex RF >


www.reliabilityindex.com/top10.html?apc=3128339010...1

I think that should answer the question
Your favourite car manufacturer - gmac
FIAT - don't laugh !

I've had five (128 Sport, 127 GT, Strada 105TC, Uno 60 S and Coupe 20v turbo) and they all worked. The only one I had to scrap was the 128 because some idiot in a Metro rear ended it in the wet. The 128 was still drivable (it had a towbar which took the brunt) the metro was a write-off, the passenger had to be cut out as the engine went back through the bulkhead and trapped him by the feet (the reason I never bought BL or Rover products).

The last one (Coupe 20v turbo) did 100k miles in four years, had a bottom end rebuild (18k miles) and a new clutch (49k miles) both under warranty. Fantastic car and loved every minute of driving it all over Europe.
Your favourite car manufacturer - Citivanvin
FIAT for me too...

I had a Panda 750 as my first car and when that died I loved it so much I wanted another FIAT. Just so much fun. They also very stylish and cool. Like all Italian cars they also have SOUL. Then progressed up through to Tipos and now my current Brava JTD. I do a lot of miles with work so they've always had to work hard (I bought the Brava with 40k on it 3 years ago, it's now on 130k. The Tipo 1.6 DGT, I bought for £600 at 60k miles, did 190k before the gearbox packed up) and I've never been let down or stranded by them, contrary to what people tell me I should be experiencing.....

And that first Panda obviously bit me well and good, as in the past couple of years I've gone back to them. I now have 3 of them (45CL, 750L & 1000CL), a 126 FSM and a 900T van.
Your favourite car manufacturer - Avant
I agree about Triumphs of the 1970s - plenty of oomph, very easy to drive and you felt just that bit special. The only manufacturer that does that for me nowadays is Audi.
Your favourite car manufacturer - injection doc
Ford for there simplicity & all way's the best gearbox & Jaguar for finish & style & a dash to die for
Your favourite car manufacturer - sajid
my favorite got to be honda, my first car was a civic a 85 model, i kept that for 8 years, then a astra and now a proud owner of a honda jazz, the astra was chosen due to various factors common, cheap parts, and low running costs, it had its faults, reliablity was a let down, no pas no electric windows, it had a hi torq engine 1.4 the only good thing about it was it was spaciaous.

Now to my current car a honda jazz, its very quiet, economical, also spacious, and to me honda make the best engines and innovate more.
Your favourite car manufacturer - doog
as someone who has just got shot of a Mazda6 I would rate the Ford engine/gearbox over the Mazda any day

I loved the looks of the 6 but the engine was noisier (inside and out) than my old 1989 Belmont SRI

currently have a Lexus but thats not perfect.......my heart is with SRI and also the Cavalier Sports hatch (1979).. hence vauxhall...70/80's


Your favourite car manufacturer - cheddar
I agree about Triumphs of the 1970s - plenty of oomph >>


My dad had a '73 Triumph 2000, dog slow (84bhp IIRC), he replaced it with a Cortina 2000E which was much better, on the otherhand I had a Dolomite Sprint in the 80's which was something else compared to the 2000.
Your favourite car manufacturer - barney100
Citroen are my favourite manufacturer but I confess I have never owned one. I think they are not afraid to do something different and the 2CV was just the barebones of a car with a tiny engine that was practically unburstable. I know a bloke who ran them for years and he said his right foot was never anything but flat to the floor. Those old DS models were stunning.
Your favourite car manufacturer - mrnikko
For me its Renault,don't all fall about laughing. Why well in the 60s and 70s my family always went camping in France, Spain and Italy for our holidays and the trusty Renault always got us there always loaded up to the gunnels but never broke down. The Renault 8 was the first car followed by the 1100 (long nosed R8 for those who don't know) the two 16s,two 12s and finally a 30. Today yes Renault are patchy on relability but in my experiance no better or worse than many other manufacturers on the road and yes i do include the so called german quality marques in that comment.My friends Audi A8 has just presented him with a £2000 bill for a service and fault rectification at only 80,000 miles on a TDi not good.
However I love pre GM Saabs, Citroens, old MGs, Porsches, and Alfas why again because they are different and cock a snoot at the blandness that seems to prevolent in todays modern cars.
Your favourite car manufacturer - Paul Robinson
Over the last 30 years we've had the following brands in the family:

Austin
Audi
BMW
Citroen
Fiat
Ford
Honda
Nissan
Peugeot
Rover
Subaru
Triumph
Toyota
Vauxhall
Volvo

None of them were perfect but only the 1980's Rovers were absolutely appalling! Favourites I would say were the Vauxhalls (7), had them when we were on a tight budget and they were cheap used buys, cheap to run and did everything we needed. I have a soft spot for the Fiats (4) too. Also very cheap to buy, we had no major problems, I just remember them as being good fun.
Your favourite car manufacturer - mike hannon
Had my first Honda (2 wheels) in 1966, first Honda (4 wheels) in 1982. Yes, there have been odd problems and idiosyncrasies but I've never, ever, been disappointed. And in my years of road testing journalism I never drove the car that made me sorry to get back in whatever Honda I owned at the time.
Somebody up the thread said Honda only call in the bean-counters when the engineers have finished. That just about sums it up really.
I have, of course, owned many other makes in that time, from Wartburg to Mercedes. That's what makes me such a cynic.
Your favourite car manufacturer - DP
Ford for me as well. Had lots of them and all have been very good cars, nice to drive, incredibly cheap to maintain and service, and completely painless to own.

Their motorsport heritage in the real world (not the marketing-only relevance of the likes of F1) is pretty much unrivalled with the likes of the mk1 and mk2 Escort in rallying, and the huge success of the Cosworths in various disciplines from the mid 80's to the mid 90's. It always makes me laugh when people dismiss Fords as cheap mass market rubbish - no other cheap mass market rubbish has proven itself so well in the heat of competition, and at all levels and disciplines from the grass roots to the megabuck world of F1 (through Cosworth).

From the launch of the mk1 Mondeo onwards, they are superb to drive. I've driven cars costing £40k from so-called "premium" brands that don't handle, steer or brake as nicely as a humble mk1 Mondeo 1.8. Pretty much every car launched since has been at the top of the tree for driver enjoyment, even if it does sometimes come at the expense of soft touch plastics inside or expensive looking trim. The guy in charge of product development in Europe is a true petrolhead and enthusiast who does a bit of rallying, and Jackie Stewart has set up the chassis of every new model since the mk1 Mondeo.

I also rate their basic engineering quality, despite sometimes trying to ruin it with things like suspension bushes made of cheese, and sloppy attention to rust proofing. My old Sierra ran to 235,000 miles on its original engine without a single rattle, puff of smoke or mechanical failure. My Fiesta is still as sweet as new at 97,000 miles. The Mondeo is clockwork reliable at 131,000. Noble chose the Duratec V6 as the basis for their supercar engines, and Caterham have selected an all-Zetec (or Zetec based) line up for their current models based purely on technical merit.

Sorry that sounds a bit gushing, but I can't think of another manufacturer who consistently makes such well set up, affordable cars, and which has proven itself so consistently for so long in motorsport.

Cheers
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Your favourite car manufacturer - Big Bad Dave
Jaguar for the way they make me feel when I drive one.
Your favourite car manufacturer - Clanger
Citroen; clocked up 19 of various sorts.

PhilW, Lud, Barney and MrNikko echo my thoughts, because I really rated my Renault 4, 16TX and stepfather's 20TX.
Hawkeye
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Your favourite car manufacturer - 659FBE
SAAB before they fell victim to GM.

A "real" SAAB was like an old mini - you had a feeling that it was largely designed by one person who had a passion for it. More modern offerings have that "designed by a corporate committee" feeling. Coupled with a dose of Eurostandardisation, real individuality and design for anything other than profit is now largely gone.

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Your favourite car manufacturer - PhilW
"I really rated my Renault 4,"

Hawkeye - we really liked ours in the 1970s (bung the camping stuff in the back and off we went all over Europe) and strangely, on a recent trip to a very rural area of Northern France for few days break (and wine stock up) we saw loads of R4s in lovely nick. One looked brand new, yet it must be at least 20 years at least since they were in production?
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Your favourite car manufacturer - piggy
Sorry you VAG/Ford people,but I have an incurable addiction to Italian cars. especially Fiats.In my time I have had an 850 coupe,two 128 coupes,two Alfasuds,a Tipo (best car I ever had),an Uno and my present carapace,the Coupe Fiat as they like to call it.
None of these cars have ever given me any serious trouble or left me stranded and my next car will probably be a Panda as I`m getting too old and stiff for the Coupe. I think it helps with Italian cars if one lifts the bonnet from time to time to check on what`s underneath! Another tip is not to rely on Fiat servicing as their agents are dire.
Your favourite car manufacturer - happytorque
Citroen for me too....DS was greateast car ever made. 30 years ahead of its time. Think of the rubbish that Britain was churning out in 1955. Then look at the DS!
Look at todays Citroen range....all stylish, all reasonably priced (well, excpet the C6)....would be happy to own any of them.
Your favourite car manufacturer - injection doc
Princess vanden plas 4ltrR nearest I could get to a RR, fantastic with superb memories of thumping down the M1. Drove one a couple of years ago for old times sake & Oh god how did we manage. barge on the thames would drive better and a parachute would have been better for the brakes & a fax machine to warn people when we were about to overtake! & oh if I remember gallons of esso sae40 oil in the boot for frquent top ups