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Austin Metro (Dont get me started how bad this was)
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1, most Fiats......(i'd have one of those RS2000 beating garish Miriafiori's though...if there's any left with no tin worm in)
2, Renault Kangoo/Citroen Berlingo type things
3, one of those stupid looking Jap highsided small things that look like they'll tip over at any corner... (Daihatsu maybe). They've got incredibly small wheels.
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Keeping to modern cars and bearing in mind looks, I'd say:
Fiat Multipla
Toyota Yaris Verso
Morgan Aero 8
They are the 3 ugliest recent cars that come to mind.
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Yes but ugly is the new pretty !
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But nobody has copied the styling of the Fiat Multipla, the Yaris Verso or the Aero 8.
Actually BMW recently did a bug-eyed concept car which has a kind of Aero 8 ugliness about it, except even worse.
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But at least people know Bangle's name (if for all the wrong reasons) have you seen photos of the new Concept CS, it looks like a proper Beemer should all flow and hunched, drool.
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I've traced the ugly BMW I refer to on the net and is called the 2006 Mille Miglia.
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UGLY ?- wow what a beauty I want one. Its like something from "Fatherland" wow double wow, I hadn't seen that one before.
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Buck Rogers, Ming the Merciless, and Dick Dastardly have already ordered one PU.
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Not based on any technical abilities, just an opinion:
Any Rover
Any 4x4
Any Fiat
BTW, I quite like quirky cars like the Reliant Robin and the old BL models (allegro, marina, princess & ambassador etc.) although I wouldn't buy them.
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1. Robin Reliant or Reliant Robin (horrid things whichever way around you want to spell it)
2. Any Rover
3. Any Kia
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1. Pink Daihatsu Copen.
2. Chavved Pug 106/Saxo
3. Smart Four Two
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Austin Princess
Morris Marina
Consul Classic
argh - can I please wake up?
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For Vin P, I thought that clicking on "reply to this message" would slide my reply to DP in after his comment re Prius fuel consumption. It didn't, although why I don't know. Hence the "out-of-sequence" comment.
For moderator - is it possible to reply to a particular message in order to make the sequence correct? Or should I let it fall where it may but adress the comment by name as this time?
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i) Any Nissan Micra (in particlar the recent coupe)
ii) Datsun 120Y
iii) Any yank stretch of the past 10/15 years. Argh!
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For Vin P I thought that clicking on "reply to this message" would slide my reply to DP in after his comment re Prius fuel consumption.
Besides yourself, one other person replied to DP (which was Oldhand). Two people replied to oldhands message, which it why your reply to DP is 4 messages down from his message.
If you look at the thread in "threaded view" it *should* become apparant.
www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=52873&...t
For moderator
See above. If you're ever unsure, then quote a brief summary of the text of the person you're replying to (not the whole lot that some people seem to do - despite various mentions NOT TO!!) , or include the comment "in reply to xxx"
DD.
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1. Toyota Prius
2. Suzuki X-90
3. Ssang Yyong (?) Rodius
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W12 VW Phaeton (broken crankshaft)
Type 35 Bugatti (broken crankshaft)
V16 Cadillac (broken crankshaft)
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"Volkswagen Beetle MK1- shed with the engine in the wrong place and no engineering trickery to counter it."
Pah - philistine! The British army saw fit to help to rebuild the factory after WW2 to enable this 'shed' to be built.
My three:
1. Anything with chrome spinners on.
2. Suzuki Vitara.
3. Hummer.
DB
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Pah - philistine! The British army saw fit to help to rebuild the factory after WW2 to enable this 'shed' to be built.
I didn't require a history lesson and I'd imagine neither did anyone else. The fact the REME revived Hitler and Porsche's stillborn baby doesn't make it a good one.
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You're wrong of course OH. Brilliant thirties breakthrough that lasted thirty years in production with many evolutionary changes. If it had been garbage, it wouldn't have.
You are entitled to your prejudices though just like the rest of us.
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i'd advise you try reading what other people have written before commenting.
I called it a 'shed' and it's in my 'nightmare car garage' at no time have I suggested it's garbage.
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So, what do you mean by a 'shed' then? Term usually used to describe a hopeless, useless or horrible car or one on its last legs and probably illegal, I thought.
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I mean something that would be better off being used to store garden equipment in rather than driving it. A knackered old or even restored beetle is my idea of driving hell. Ever tried driving a relatively new one? I have it and it was still a load of old carp.
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Your standards are absurdly high OH. Any Beetle in reasonable condition is an interesting drive. Of course the swing-axle ones had handling that had to be learned. Very pleasant vehicles.
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I didn't say it wasn't interesting. A Bond Bug is also interesting as are DAF Variomatics. I don't like either of them though and they narowly missed being included in my list.
Any chance of actually letting this get back on topic now? Why not start a new thread to discuss the various attributes of VW's original Beetle?
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DAF variomatic rubberbandmobile... ah that charming whistle-like whine on the overrun...
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I drove a Volvo 66 as a learner, it could out drag a Rover 2200, but by gum it made some funny noises
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1) "Dishonest", overblown designs (Renault Megane, most of the current Peugeots, those awful Seat Altea things, newer Primera, all hideous)
2) Dodgy 80s Fords with those rattly, diesel-sounding petrol engines
3) Any car with a clunky gearbox (98-04 Astra and similar vintage Corsa being prime examples).
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Hillman Imp (new head gasket every 5000 miles)
DAF 44 variomatic (rubber band machine)
Vauxhall Chevette
Yugo 45
Volvo 345
...... and I've had each of these
Mummy, Mummy! Help! Mummy! I dreamt of the nasty cars again! Can I have a glass of water?
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Oh. I forgot.
Ex BT Maestro van with the 1.3 petrol "engine"
Yup... had one of these too.
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Hillman Imp (new head gasket every 5000 miles)
DAF 44 variomatic (rubber band machine)
Vauxhall Chevette
Yugo 45
Volvo 345
...... and I've had each of these
A bit spooky this MP3
have owned all of these too apart from theYugo. Could also add a Simca 1000 and two Lada Rivas.
When you've owned this lot it makes you appreciate just about any modern car
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1. Any BMW
2. Any pink car
3. Any car with privacy glass.
4. Any car with low profile tyres. (I know i was only supposed to list three, but I'm feeling generous)
I guess my ultimate nightmare car therefore would be a pink X5 with darkened windows and ultra-low profile tyres.
I'd far rather be seen in a Moskvitch. (I'd rather drive the BMW, but that's a different thread!)
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A pink Hummer would be even better tyro.
You got no class, kid.
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None at all, Lud, none at all.
Mind you, since you didn't include a Berlingo in your 10 car dream garage, what would you know? ;-)
(By the way, I wrote in haste. On more mature reflection, I think I might want to delete 'X5' from my last post and insert 'Z4')
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Well done tyro!
Your choice ALMOST matches mine
1. Any BMW OH YES!
2. Privacy glass
3. any car with personalised plates
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Hearse
Ambulance
Dustcart
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>>I guess my ultimate nightmare car therefore would be a pink X5 with darkened windows and ultra-low profile tyres. <<
tyro - that's brilliant :-) It would, of course, need to have white seats
My three would be:
Any post 1968 Jaguar (before then, could be in the dream garage)
Any small Vovlo
Any overstyled american land yacht
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Cliff
I can see why you wouldn't want to be seen dead in a dustcart, but a hearse?
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OK, I wouldn't want to be seen in a hearse at all, dead or alive.
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Any Vauxhall - no cred whatsoever (apart from possibly a 3-dr current Astra)
Chrysler 300C
Hummer
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After a further night's disturbed sleep, I can add...
Peugeot 305 (the paint was so thin I polished the car and T-cut the boot lid down to the primer)
and
Hyundai Atos (but only on rental while in Spain on holiday)
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My new nightmare garage (I've sent the Fiat Multipla, Toyota Yaris Verso and Morgan Aero 8 to the crusher) now contains three late-model Citroen 2CVs with those silly jaunty colour schemes.
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Watch your back SS or the boys from Grove Lane will be round to see you. :-))
It will be a lot worse than a bit of noise from the stone wagons. Apropo might be worth giving Mendip Rail a bell on Monday and reporting the faulty joint.
Happy Motoring Phil I
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I'll add a Smart to mine.
I wonder why they call it a Smart? Probably the description of the salesman who can persuade someone to part with eight grand for a wheely bin with an engine.
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3 pin plug (sorry rr forgot about these till you posted)
moskvitch from 1977
triumph 1300 if its damp out
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I realise that this is not the type of reply that was sought, but my nightmare car garage would be one which had a 7' (or are they now only 2.1 metres?) wide door.
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L\'escargot.
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3 pin plug (sorry rr forgot about these till you posted)
Don't worry, bell boy. Those of us who cut our teeth on one of the finest examples of British motoring heritage realise that not many have the nescessary skills to handle a vehicle without a wheel on each corner.
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>>>>Watch your back SS or the boys from Grove Lane will be round to see you. :-))<<<
Grove Lane? I'm completely in the dark here! Where is it and who are the boys from it? !!!
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>>>I wonder why they call it a Smart? <<<
The car was originally conceived by the Swatch watch company and was, if I'm not mistaken, intended to be battery-electric powered. Maybe 'Smart' had a certain continuity with 'Swatch' when Mercedes took full control of the project.
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My three 2CV's were destroyed by my cats jumping on the bonnets and have also been scrapped so my dream garage Mark 3 contains a matching triplet of cars, all in two-tone black and yellow - a Smart Four-Two, a Smart Four-Four and that 9-Litre, V16 250 mph Smart that is for some reason known as a Bugatti Veyron - but we all know it's really just an overgrown Smart!!!!
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Ah! I get the reference to Grove Lane and boys therefrom now - the 2CV Centre!!!! If I was to buy three 2CVs for my 'nightmare garage' I promise I'll buy them from there!!!!
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