Hi all, At work tonight an employee of my told me he had received a fixed penalty ticket of £60.00. The offence took place on the 16th jan 2007. He did not by this car untill the 24th jan 2007 and did not get a receipt for it as it was a private sale (Daft i know) Upon looking at the v5 it says that he has owned it from the 15th jan 2007, hence why the ticket has come to him. This car was advertised in auto-trader on or about the 18th jan 2007 by the original seller from whom he bought it off. Any ideas what he should do now ? Thanks for any help and advice, Cheers, Graham.
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When he bought the vehicle Reg Doc V5c would be completed and Section 10 (New Keeper supplement) and new keepers details and date of sale/transfer and handed to him. If you say he bought it on 24th why did he accept 15th?
Likewise Section 6 V5 would give date of transfer by old ownerv who would sent V5 to DVLA.
Two possibilities - old owner has fiddled dates to get off a speeding charge or your pal is trying to do the same.
He will need strong evidence to say he bought it on 24th to get off.
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"owner has fiddled dates to get off a speeding charge or your pal is trying to do the same."
A strange piscean aroma surrounds this....The seller's pulled a fast one !
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Wonder how many points the vendor has already? Seems a bit extreme to sell the car after being flashed!!
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it may be a genuine mistake on the sellers part. Maybe they had pre filled the V5 on the 15th for another sale that fell through. If the car was purchased through auto trader then they will have records to prove the car was still being advertised at a later date. Getting access to the records is very difficult though.
Your friend can always fill the details of the old owner from the v5 as being the driver at the time on the NIP and send it back with a covering letter. The police ill then pursue the old owner.
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Does he have evidence of the date of payment for the car, eg cash withdrawal from bank, issue of bank draft etc?
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If this was a speeding charge then There should be a NIP Notice of Intention to Prosecute. Complete this with the previuos owners details and return it with a covering letter stating you date of aquisition The insurence company will have been informed of the change of car would they not. Regards Peter
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good point peter d
new keeper will have told insurance company of day and time of change over to the minute.
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Assuming that your employee is telling the truth then it would seem that the seller has pulled a fast one. Looking at the January date I would guess that the seller has already been wrangling with the Safety Camera Partnership over the ticket and has basically passed the buck to your employee.
Its a bit late to say this now but your employee should have checked the date that was filled in on the V5 that was to be sent off, he should have also got a receipt of some description just to cover himself for events like this.
My advice would be to tell him to write back to the Safety Camera Partnership explaining what is what and basically pass the buck back to the former keeper. It may be worth mentioning in the letter that he can prove (if he can) when he either withdrew the money from the bank for the car/arranged a bankers draft, or when he transferred the insurance cover stc to validate his story.
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Thank-you each and every one for your comments. I will pass them on to him tonight at work. Thanks again, Graham.
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Can the new owner vouch beyond doubt for his whereabouts at the time of the offence? That may help him should the matter get tricky at a later stage.
Remember the "third party claims I crashed into them but I was at work thread", and the poster had omitted to get his work's security records printed off, as he thought it was all cleared up.
Anything your chum can do to a) prove he didn't own the car on the day and b) that he was no-where near the site of the offence may be of use at a later date.
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Hi there, local yokel, good point, i will pass this info onto him, Thanks again, Graham.
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