I notice that whenever someone queries the efficacy of various fuel and oil additives the sceptics seem to outnumber the enthusiasts and I feel that a lot of the objections are on principle but not necessarily on experience. I notice from time to time HJ (whom God preserve) in his ST column recommends certain treatments so presumably some do work and I guess he would not be included in "the one born every minute" class that some people seem to regard users of these additives as being in.
Having been given a jar of Forte's "Advanced" diesel treatment and quite willing to try it and see what happens I would still be interested to hear the views of anyone who has actually used it and come to a conclusion one way or another.
I would much prefer to hear opinions from users (if any) rather than speculate on the psychological effects of the firm's advertising, or placebo effects, or the fact that it claims to be good so it can't be.
|
|
used to use loads, no real problems & can be quite effective Its a well known make .they also have good technical support for a product in a tin!
|
|
I've always uses 'Forte' products and can't faults them at all! Top stuff!
|
|
|
|
I would much prefer to hear opinions from users (if any)
Using the forum search you'll see many a good word has previously been said about Forte products.
|
DD previous to posting my query I did use forum search but I was specifically looking for opinions on the product named not on Forte products in general and there was no such.
However I appreciate those who have troubled to answer me and the comments are helpful. I take the point about disturbing long time deposits and sending them through the system and this would, I suppose, depend on whether they were dissolved or just freed and sent through in lumps as it were. My engine is a p. reg Pug 2.1TD and has done ca. 85,000 miles with only one previous treatment of unknown make at about 60K.
If I interpret the answers correctly the consensus appears to be if it's Forte it's o.k and at least won't do any harm given the proviso above.
I'll give it a try and if you read of an elderly Pug suddenly going into orbit you will know it's good stuff.
Thanks chaps.
|
|
|
|
I don't think many people contributing to this forum have carried out enough research to tell you if some gloop in a tin works or not. I suspect not even HJ actually runs an engine testing lab, but if he has some serious statistically valid data, then I (doubtlessly among many!) would be interested to see them.
In this case, I agree that Forte is a well established, and well used brand - particuarly in the motor trade, which is where it has been most effectively marketed.
From my experience with additives of a number of brands, which I have been asked to put into customers cars I've seen a small number of very bad outcomes (which the naming & shaming rules prevent me from going into in much depth), and many outcomes where not a huge amount of positive difference has been made. When looked at in the wording of your post, I'm a sceptic.
If cars which were fed a diet of these expensive gloops all uniformly went on to acheive starship mileages, burning little fuel while doing so, there wouldn't be much debate. The fact there's a debate suggests to me that the additives aren't up to much.
I would be wary of fuel system cleaners - where are they moving the crud to? I would be happier for it to stay in the low tech, cheap parts of my fuel system rather than clog my injectors, thanks all the same!
I would also be wary of using an engine flush on an older engine which had not been flushed before.
Number_Cruncher
|
I have tested cleaners out over a period of years including rolling road test to see what achievements could be obtained, I have been to fuel/oil research laboritries & seen fuels & oils tested on engines running flat out on dynamometers.
The vloume of cleaners that I was testing at the time mean't we were consuming 50+ cans/bottles a week.
I agree with number cruncher & wouldn't use engine flush unless it was used on a vehicle from new & used every time the oil was changed. I too have had disatrous results with engine flush.
Some injector cleaners I agree can & have disturbed small corrosion particals within a petrol injection system and caused partiall blockage of petrol injectors, & thats where product knowledge is essential
In 30 years I have only experienced one deisel pump failure as a direct result & that was due to a certain product disolving the nylon particle matter filter in the pump.
Hdi engines now rely on perfect injection & do benefit from cleaners & certain products are very good & give astonishing results.
I designed an ultra sonic cleaner with huge sucess 20+ years ago for petrol injection & carried out numerous rolling road test's and that proved how vital injectors were.
|
|
Please see my answer to DD for latest thought and thanks for all your comments!
|
|
|
|
