Hi,
lm looking at buying a 407 2ltr HDI, does anyone have any views or good/bad experiences of these cars? the car im looking at has 67000mls on a 54 plate 2005 full pug history.
Regards. Duggie
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Can't tell you about the car, but I hired a van this week with the 2.0 HDI engine and drove it to Dunkeld and back from Leeds. Initial complaints that it felt extremely sluggish when moving off with a full load of bags and camping equipment and bikes were resolved when I discovered I'd been pulling away in 3rd gear.
Thrashed it up the motorway and back, drove approximately 650 miles on £120 of diesel, but then we were ragging it down the motorway and it had the aerodynamical properties of an Aga. Engine very good through, power delivery beautifully smooth over the whole rev range but power felt limited above 3000 RPM.
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We have a 90oddK mile year 2000 Xantia HDi - never had the engine touched bar oil changes and cambelt change. We had the cambelt changed early (interval is something like 100k) since it would need one change during it's life with us but probably not two. Wonder if you could get a change done in purchase price?
Agree with David about "Engine very good through, power delivery beautifully smooth over the whole rev range" but would say it goes up to 4500 revs with ease.
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Phil
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No comment on the 407 installation from me either, my HDI is in a Xantia. As David says it's powerful, smooth and quiet. Economy wise 45mpg as a minimum, better if your light footed and/or do longer distance stuff.
Make sure the timing belt changes get done, the rubber bonded crank pulley should be changed at the same time - see cbc breakdown. Mine was not, in spite of request and parted after another 5kmiles. Several hundred to put right but damage some way south of catastrophic. Some evidence from my and other users experiences that this engine survives low speed cambelt incidents reasonably well.
Other weak spot is the lift pump, low pressure electric pump that delivers fuel from tank up to the complex gubbins under the bonnet. Some stories suggest that failure of this part (about £200 to replace) can lead, via a carp filter design, to metal fragments in the high pressure side and bills of £££££.
Would I but another HDi? In an ideal world I'd prefer the older IDI/XUD technology and our other car is a 1.9D Berlingo for that reason. However common rail/PD and other complex systems are only way to meet emission regs and customer demands for economy and petrol matching/beating performance. A search of this site will throw up "issues" with VW, Ford, PSA and probably GM and Jap versions of HPDI technology and some suggest PSA, while not fault free is least buggy.
I'll stick with the devil I know.
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Thanks for the replies, might just give this model a miss, i use motorways everyday to and from work, and i just havent seen that many infact this week ive only seen one! searching the internet availability of spares seems to be an issue with owners, any recommendations on diesel estates?
Duggie
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Usual recommendation here is a Mondeo but I'd expect a Focus estate or a C-Max to carry at least as much as a 407SW, with the bonus that it wouldn't look like a 407. (Does anyone else get that What were those Peugeot people thinking? feeling whenever they see one, or is that just me as well?)
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