idiotic parking rant - track
Im becoming somewhat bemued lately by the apparent disregard for common sense when parking. Just 2 corneres from me is a school, the schools main entrance is on a very very busy road (one of 3 main roads into town centre), it is a standard single lane carriageway with slightly wider than average lanes, IE a bus cvould pass a cyclist if needed.
On the same side as the school are side roads, both within 50 yards of the school one either side. Immediatlay after both of these side roads is a sharp (read blind()bend in the road going the opposite way to the sided the school is on.
I live down one of these side roads.
Anyway people have taken to parking right on the corners of these side roads and all along one lane where the school is. the only place they dont park is the patrol crossing in the centre for the school. The worst offender of this parking on the corner is the crossing lady who I hate as she thinks its ok to let one car go then stop the traffic again at 8.50am when everyone is trying to get to work.
Its got to the point where I have to stop in the oncoming traffic to look down the side road before turning in as usually its been blocked down to one lane there as well so if anyone coming out I cant get in and if they want to turn in the direction Im approaching from they cant as I am blocking the lane and then when I do pull in its a lottery as to if I will hit either people just mindlessly walking out with children and push chairs or hit a car door opening etc etc.

Sorry for the rant, sure you all have similar things in your areas.
Isnt their a rule in highway code about parking within a set distance of a junction?
idiotic parking rant - FotheringtonThomas
Isnt their a rule in highway code about parking within a
set distance of a junction?


Yes. Ask your local police to have a look. Go in person to your nearest police station, and state your problem, with a map (multimap, maps.google, or whatever). Don't call, or you will get a call centre, in which case you might as well just jump down a deep hole as try and make sense. You may find that several police van drivers immediately use the junction as their personal car park, or (much more likely) someone will come along for a morning and tell people off!

Oh! That's right, I remember now.... see/write to/e-mail the head of the school, and state your complaint in civil terms mentioning the danger to the children from inappropriately parked cars and their effect on traffic flow. The next school newsletter will contain parking advice for parents, with a request not to park inappropriately. This might actually have some effect.

Complain to your local council, too. You never know.
idiotic parking rant - Lud
Complyne, complyne, complyne.

That's all they ever do.
idiotic parking rant - FotheringtonThomas
Complyne, complyne, complyne.
That's all they ever do.


Yes, I know.... but what else *can* you do? Roll the obstruction out of the way? Scatter tin tacks around it? Buy a towing vehicle and take the obstruction for re-cycling at the scrap merchants? Lovely thoughts, but....
idiotic parking rant - Lud
>> Complyne, complyne, complyne.
>>
>> That's all they ever do.
Yes, I know.... but what else *can* you do? Roll the
obstruction out of the way? Scatter tin tacks around it?


Walk round it. Forget it. Help the disabled to get past it. Try to think about something more important and more interesting. You know, that sort of carp.
idiotic parking rant - FotheringtonThomas
Walk round it. Forget it. Help the disabled to get past
it. Try to think about something more important and more interesting.
You know, that sort of carp.


Track's (the OP) post was a rant about driving problems.
idiotic parking rant - Lud
Track's (the OP) post was a rant about driving problems.


So: drive carefully and give it a bit of thought. There are things worth whingeing about and things er, not.
idiotic parking rant - FotheringtonThomas
>> Track's (the OP) post was a rant about driving problems.
So: drive carefully and give it a bit of thought. There
are things worth whingeing about and things er, not.


Address that sort of remark to "Track". He's the one who's way is being obstructed by illegal parking, and my advice was directed at him. If you yourself have never seen the problems that can happen near school entrances at dropping off/picking up times, then I suggest to you that you are a very lucky person.
idiotic parking rant - track
pah my local council. I have 4 of the local council live on my road, 2 next door but one and 2 over the road. they all drive the same route I do as the council chambers are 2 minutes walk from my university. They must drive with blinkers on. I know at the last council meeting it was mentioned on the agenda but nothing was done yet we have a surplus of street wardens going about reporting untxed cars and people putting tins in the bottle tubs on recycling day.
idiotic parking rant - Lud
reporting untxed cars and people putting tins in the bottle tubs
on recycling day.


Untxed cars eh? Next time I'm driving hard on a difficult bit of road I'll txt thm :o)
idiotic parking rant - David Horn
Reporting untaxed cars has little effect in Rochdale. A guy nearby is running as an unregistered trader from his home and regularly has several untaxed cars on the road outside his house. Neighbours have tried reporting him to the police and the council with little effect.

With regard to idiotic parking, private hire vehicles take the biscuit every time. In particular, there's a blind corner near me opposite a pub, where a group of taxis like to sit and wait, forcing anyone who's overtaking to occupy the wrong side of the road on a sharp, blind, bend. However, regular readers will know my attitude towards private hire cars anyway - scum of the earth etc.
idiotic parking rant - Westpig
I think was Lud is trying to convey is:

-there's people dying in the world for want of water
- some people have nowhere to live
- some places have been blighted by war for years
- some places you daren't let your kids play for mines (exploding ones, not the Arthur Scargill variety)

etc,etc

a car parked on a corner might be inconvenient, might be mildly dangerous......bit it is a MINOR problem
idiotic parking rant - FotheringtonThomas
I think was Lud is trying to convey is (snip)


As a relative newcomer, may I ask whether you are both policemen?
idiotic parking rant - Westpig
I am.........not under the impression Lud is...........and i'm relatively new on here as well........although enjoy the banter and differing viewpoints
idiotic parking rant - FotheringtonThomas
I am.........not under the impression Lud is...........and i'm relatively new on
here as well........although enjoy the banter and differing viewpoints


Aha! I agree with the banter, and would also mention (IMO, again) that words triped on a 'puter do not necessarily give out the whole entire of the poster - that is to say, that it's easily possible to misjudge what someone might be like in "real life". Hopefully the "policeman in a pub" syndrome will not happen here, either!
idiotic parking rant - Lud
Goodness FT, you flatter me although I don't suppose Westpig will be nearly so flattered.

I speak as a hooligan citizen who likes old-style Parisian parking, just the sort of thing you are all whingeing about.

I collect my grandnippers sometimes by car from their primary school, which has a police station round behind it. The only place to park is on a single yellow line in a nearby street opposite the residents' bay. There's an 'arrangement' whereby if you put a notice saying you're collecting nippers from that school, you are magically exempt from the local parking law.

I love it. It's civilised. And yes, people do park on the corners and stuff, and have to wait before passing down a street temporarily single carriageway and tight at that.

It can get very tight indeed for some vehicles. Saw a truck driver reverse into a parked new Jag one morning. Ouch! Tee hee! Two grand or so!
idiotic parking rant - Cliff Pope
I think was Lud is trying to convey is:
-there's people dying in the world for want of water
- some people have nowhere to live
- some places have been blighted by war for years
- some places you daren't let your kids play for mines
(exploding ones, not the Arthur Scargill variety)
etc,etc
a car parked on a corner might be inconvenient, might be
mildly dangerous......bit it is a MINOR problem


Fair point. But the snag in the argument is that on a world scale there is not one single UK problem that is worth taking even one second to worry about.
.Everything is ten times worse somewhere else. The poorest UK citizen is impossibly rich by world standards. So what do we do - go and volunteer as a social worker in Darfur, or worry about the trivial things here that possibly we could put right if we complain enough?
idiotic parking rant - track
Lud, I see your point about my rant being slightly pedantic in comparison to the worlds issues but since this is a discussion board for motoring related things I find it more valid here than why are people starving when bill gates makes millions from stolen software!!

Im just getting a bit miffed by the way brits as drivers are becoming more and more inconsiderate to others. Had this kind of parking been on a quiet road I wouldnt mind and in fact would just be happy they had left room for one car to pass, the point is they are endangering lives of pedestrians and risking damage to vehicles just to save themselves and extra 20 steps to collect their children.
idiotic parking rant - bathtub tom
"Reporting untaxed cars has little effect in Rochdale. A guy nearby is running as an unregistered trader from his home and regularly has several untaxed cars on the road outside his house. Neighbours have tried reporting him to the police and the council with little effect. "

I'm aquainted with a guy who's on a mission. He reports untaxed cars to DVLA (reg. No. and location). He reckons if he sees the same car in the same place twice, then the DVLA will probably get it.
idiotic parking rant - UncleR
I live down a road where there is a junior school. What amazes me most is the mothers (and yes, it is mothers) who feel the need to drive into my road to get as close to the school gates as possible. It's a cul-de-sac so turning is always a struggle for them (8-point turns) in their buses but every day they struggle down. They park over corners, half block my drive... But as it's for a only about 25 minutes twice a day when we aren't usually in, it doesn't bother us. Although I do worry that one of these women will bump the front of my car when turning round up 'my' slope.

Once there was a funeral procession leaving from our road. Badly timed, it clashed with the afternoon pickup. We watched a woman in a people carrier try to squeeze past the funeral cars so she could get 30 metres nearer the gates. The driver of the hearse was amazed that, as they sat almost bumper to bumber she expected HIM to back up!
idiotic parking rant - Lud
Perhaps 'whingeing' was a bit impolite, and I do know that there's a bit of a road scrum outside some schools of a morning. There are aspects of moronic parking that I complain about too.

All the same, when people park like that it usually isn't for very long. Inconveniences are so numerous when driving in London that it's more trouble to grumble about it than just get on with it. But I still grumble!
idiotic parking rant - madf
I am looking forward to parking within 200 meters of a school being banned. (rumoured it will be ). We live 100 metres from a school and 9am and 3.30pm are crowded.
BUT

We have a yard for about 10 cars so I'll issue a season ticket for parking...:-)
madf
idiotic parking rant - artful dodger {P}
>>I'm aquainted with a guy who's on a mission. He reports untaxed cars to DVLA (reg. No. and location). He reckons if he sees the same car in the same place twice, then the DVLA will probably get it.

The DVLA employ people to go out and check on untaxed vehicles. How do I know? I met one who told me that was what he did for a living. Usually they make use of BIB R&R areas, and pick up any notifications of untaxed cars.


--
Roger
A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.

idiotic parking rant - Jonathan {p}
However, regular
readers will know my attitude towards private hire cars anyway -
scum of the earth etc.


Like these you mean?

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/6446757.stm

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1000/100080...l
idiotic parking rant - BazzaBear {P}
It's a bit much to equate those two cases with taxi drivers in general, which you appear to have done.
idiotic parking rant - drbe
> However, regular
readers will know my attitude towards private hire cars anyway -
scum of the earth etc.


Any special reasin why you have this hatred of private hire drivers?

Yes I have seen the links below (above), but you posted your comment before those links were posted.

Care to have a rant by way of explanation? Perhaps particularly the 'scum of the earth' comment.
idiotic parking rant - ForumNeedsModerating

>>I speak as a hooligan citizen who likes old-style Parisian parking, just the sort of thing you are all whingeing about.
>>I love it. It's civilised. And yes, people do park on the corners and stuff, and have to wait before passing down a street temporarily single carriageway and tight at that.
>>It can get very tight indeed for some vehicles. Saw a truck driver reverse into a parked new Jag one morning. Ouch! Tee hee! Two grand or so!

One of the disadvantages of 'old-style Parisian parking' then - would it be so funny if it happened to your new Jaguar ?

Inconsiderate and/or dangerous parking is just another form of bad manners & inconsiderate behaviour .
And where , if not here, should the minutiae of driving & driving matters be discussed - I've seen posts here the length of War&Peace
about dust caps!


idiotic parking rant - Lud
Of course if I had a new Jaguar I would hate it to be damaged woodbines. Actually the Jaguar was correctly parked, the truck man was in a bit of a rush, reversed carelessly in a narrow place and made a mistake. Slightly to my surprise he parked up the road and went back to deal with it in some way. The area is one of small narrow back streets with many parked cars. Some people would call it a posh area and it's certainly got some expensive real estate.

There is this parking flurry at certain times of day, but people just patiently deal with it. Most aren't inconsiderate.

Surely the point being ignored by some people here is that parents delivering their nippers to school, perhaps on the way to work, have to stop to let the children out or see them into school. Usually they are just there for a couple of minutes.

It may well be an inconvenience for those trying to hurry past or those who live locally, but why do people think you can live in a large town these days and not be inconvenienced on a daily basis? By all means complain when someone stops in the carriageway for several minutes or blocks your car in, but that doesn't happen much in my experience.
idiotic parking rant - Westpig
I had my Jag whacked by a lorry, nearly 4 years ago, when it was 4 years old.... by a supermarket delivery artic in narrow street..... did five grand's worth of damage..... he wriggled out of it, despite some good evidence, probably still costing me now in raised premiums....(my car,wife's car,m/c)
idiotic parking rant - Bromptonaut
OP might like to try and compartmentalize the problems.

Junior or Senior school? Local catchment or popular school with pupils drawn from all round town?

First of all the crossing lady works for the school/council. A word with the head or whoever about parking contrary to the HC and dangers presented to kids should solve that issue. A similar approach would probably bring some improvement in the stopping technique, but on the other hand it may be deliberate if experience is that kids made to wait either cross solo/elsewhere or wind the poor luv up.

Trying to modify parental behaviour is a very tough nut. My kids walked to primary but in the eight years they were there regular warnings, appeals to better nature and occasional threats had a best a temporary effect.

Local primaries are having some success with "walking busses" where the kids travel on foot in a timed convoy accompanied by an adult "driver" and "conductor". But this needs the support of the head and governors as well as a rota of committed parents.