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Do me a favour! Its a bumper - they're meant to be scratched! Its far better than the metal being scraped, and any repair will have no longer term consequences because a) its plastic and b) you'll scratch it yourself before long. Buy the car and stop wingeing.
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Do me a favour! Its a bumper - they're meant to be scratched! Its far better than the metal being scraped, and any repair will have no longer term consequences because a) its plastic and b) you'll scratch it yourself before long. Buy the car and stop wingeing.
Yes, but I am about to spend £18k on this car. No need to be nasty about it.>>
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>> Do me a favour! Its a bumper - they're meant >> to be scratched! Its far better than the metal being >> scraped, and any repair will have no longer term consequences because >> a) its plastic and b) you'll scratch it yourself before long. >> Buy the car and stop wingeing. >> Yes, but I am about to spend £18k on this car. No need to be nasty about it.>>
Yes, when it's done, by any half competent workshop you'll hardly even notice it other than 'fresh' paint initially might conceivably be ever so slightly brighter. I have just had two cars through our local paintworks and they did a splendid job on the plastic 'bumpers' on both car which were both metallic silver. I'm afraid this is the price you have to pay for having every part of modern cars sprayed up in paint - comparethis with damaging, say, chrome bumpers in the past, which. when dented would need experts to straighten them and then ensure that they did not rust again.
Whilst not wishing to sound 'nasty' don't be too fussy as, if the dealers are any good, you'll get a good result, which after a few weeks, you won't even notice where any damage was. I have to say, though, that our damage to one of the cars (hit by a third party) was an insurance job and they replaced the complete bumper and then resprayed this to the requisite colour.
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As above, some colours are difficult to match too. I have a bad example of VAG bodyshop and a silver car. GRRRRRR
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At £18000 you've got every right to expect it to be perfect! Just consider that your idea of perfect may not be the same as theirs. If they do it and you're not happy, don't accept the car. Certainly don't pay the full anything other than a small deposit until you've seen the finished product.
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Its in your hands, If they do it right, then super. If not - complain till they get it right,
Then you can scratch the bumper ;)
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Mind it has to be said, you are stark raving mad to spend 18k on a golf.
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If it's in black walk away (SWMBO is looking for an ex-demo black GTi and this would do nicely !)
I was talking to a paint and trim guy who has a contract to "fix" new cars delivered to a local main dealer before they go on sale. Don't worry about it.
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If it's in black walk away (SWMBO is looking for an ex-demo black GTi and this would do nicely !) I was talking to a paint and trim guy who has a contract to "fix" new cars delivered to a local main dealer before they go on sale. Don't worry about it.
yes, i am amazed at this- I know they can get smacked on the ferry but still it amazes me that quite a few new cars aren't treated properly!
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Oh and its in white, don't laugh i think it suits it!
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white is the new silver.
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White gtis look great and white is a good colour to match up, I'm jealous ;O(
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The dealer will bring in a local SMART repair operator for this kind of localised damage. Could be good or could be bad. All I would say is check it after they've done it.
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So when main dealers quote you 200-300 pound for a small scratch, is that all they do, call any tom dick or harry? They pride themselves on VW approved this and that, you car is safe with us as we only use approved parts and our technicians this...
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Buy it and enjoy it, I've used one of these guys they do a good job.
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Part of the bumper on our C5 has been resprayed twice and both times the results were unsatisfactory. I imagine it was done by a mobile unit, as the quality of the top coat is very poor, as it is showing a lot of pitting. The car was bought from a car supermarket.
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It does seem like there is a 50/50 chance of the paintwork being ok according to the responses so far. I am amazed that using a "main dealer bodyshop" doesn't guarantee a prefect job... You'd think using them would guarantee an "as new car".
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I don't see what the problem is here - just make the "right to reject the car and obtain a full refund if not satisfied with the repair" a condition of the sale.
'Main dealer bodyshops' are few and far between now. Manufacturers have Approved Bodyshops but they're often the same industrial estate places that everyone goes to.
Any yes, they will bring someone in to do SMRT repairs at low cost then charge customers a fortune. Just like they'll charge £300 to put Diamond-Brite or Supagard on the car when the kit costs max £50 and it's done in an hour by a self employed valeter making a fiver an hour.
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55 quid costs marked up to 300, quid,thats capitalism at work,wheres the problem?
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Who's paying £55 for 'Stoopidgard'? Diamondbrite Stage 1 and 2 for £5 togther! I think their fabric protector is about £5 a can too. But use the 3M stuff, its better.
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Who's paying £55 for 'Stoopidgard'? Diamondbrite Stage 1 and 2 for £5 togther!
Yes, I pay that for it too- in fact I bought 2 packs, 4 bottles, of Diamond-Brite (1&2) for £8 inc postage the other day on eBay. I quite like it - it's a lot easier than waxing the car as you don't have to avoid all the cars black plastic and rubber bits like you do with most waxes.
I gather the complete pack, with the after kit etc, lists at around £50 (although it's pretty difficult for non-trade people to buy that kit, except from eBay).
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I've had a few of the 'complete packs' for about £25 (inc. fabric spray and 'conserver'). There is a local chap who sells them. I don't rate the fabric spray much though - proper Scotch 3M stuff is better.
There's a few of these products knocking about, 'Supergard', Gard-X, Diamondbrite etc etc, all seem to be fairly similar and charged out at £299 - £499 - incredible when you think about it....
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It does seem like there is a 50/50 chance of the paintwork being ok according to the responses so far. I am amazed that using a "main dealer bodyshop" doesn't guarantee a prefect job... You'd think using them would guarantee an "as new car".
The bodyshop does'nt fix the cars, the personnel do. One to prep, one to paint and one to polish and finish off the work.
Its a poorly paid job too, I doubt many will own an £18,000 car......
All main agents use smart repairers, some are very, very good ;O)
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"main dealer bodyshop" ??
The guy who ran into the back of my BMW whilst I was stationary at red traffic lights immediately did the decent thing and offered to pay himself for the repair..........( couple of splits in the plastic plus scratching)....and I took it to the BMW dealer who directed me to "their bodyshop" for a quote. It turned out to be a general bodyshop that was repairing all makes (lots of Nissans and Renaults in there). Repaired it ok though.
I don't know if they plastic welded the bumper or replaced it..............or if a SMART repair operator came in to fix it.
..........................but I do know they stung the poor guy for £543 because I saw the bill !!!!! ..ouch !!!
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All main agents use smart repairers, some are very, very good ;O)
Some! Once again i don't think i'm being too harsh by expecting perfect on an £18k car!
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Some! Once again i don't think i'm being too harsh by expecting perfect on an £18k car!
I agree, you be the judge of the quality of the repair and walk if its not A1
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Just more of the same really - why not get them to repair it first and then decide what to do.
SWMBO had a Polo from new and we noticed a scratch on the front bumber - only small but I had my 'this is a new car and must be perfect' head on.
The dealer agreed to repair and made a right mess of it - nothing but arguments after that - but as they guys above say - you cannot consider them to be all equal in their incompetence.
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Just more of the same really - why not get them to repair it first and then decide what to do.
The problem with this is that you have to commit yourself to buying the car first. I do find this a tad harsh.
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Why not ask them to knock some money off (start at £150, with a target of £100) and then get your own smart repair on a recommendation..?
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They've now got the car so have potentially started the repair. I get it on Thursday. I think we shall just have to see. I do wish I'd have bought new now though, there is more peace of mind.
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Surely 18k is too much for any 06 GTi?
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Surely 18k is too much for any 06 GTi?
About the right price I suspect. They'll all be with main dealers anyway. Mind you, you can get a brand new Impreza WRX 2.5 for £15k - if you want real performance and handling ;-)
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Right price at dealers - going through this trauma as we speak. I hope the salesguy at the dealers SWMBOs selected to do over is sleeping well tonight.
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Right price at dealers - going through this trauma as we speak. I hope the salesguy at the dealers SWMBOs selected to do over is sleeping well tonight.
I'm sure he/she will be. The bottom line is that you pay what they want you to pay or they don't sell. There is steady demand for these cars - always a bit of fat to be shaved off the price, but no bargains. Assuming its used that you're buying - make sure it hasn't had a troubled history and was chopped-in early. I think VW made a few lemons amongst these.
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Lets put it this way, do backroomers think it's worth £18k?? I do know its only a scrape but as another backroomer said earlier " I have my car should be perfect head on". If done properly i'm not going to worry, just want to be sure I am doing the right thing here.
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>>I do wish I'd have bought new now though, there is more peace of mind.<<
That is not always the case and certainly was not my experience when I bought a new VW so do not be hard on yourself - at the end of the day you are porbably saving yourself few quid doing it this way.
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We're off to a dealer now to look at \a MK5, SWMBO reckons she can get it for a tad under 19k (brand new). May be worth the extra grand to get a film wrapped one. Let you know the outcome.
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My brand new Golf had had a smart repair before it was delivered to me - the only reason I found out was because they hadn't finished it off properly and there was a tiny matt spot by the rear numberplate. It went back in, got sorted and was perfect.
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>>I do wish I'd have bought new now though, there is more peace of mind.<<
I know someone very wealthy who always buys nearly-new rather than brand-new. His point is that he can see the actual car he's getting, rather than an example of it.
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Just had a courtesy call- It definitely won't be a smart repair. It'll go through the "VW approved bodyshop" whatever that is!
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Just had a courtesy call- It definitely won't be a smart repair. It'll go through the "VW approved bodyshop" whatever that is!
That question does not warrant a reply. As indicated earlier in this thread - stop worrying unecessarily about what is an 'everyday' repair as far as cars go.
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