Chop his hands off, he obviously isn't interested in amending his ways.
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/6425143.stm
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Why do we stomach such behaviour ? Why, if he doesn't wish to change is behaviour, is he not put away for as long as possible just to keep him out of the way ? Why isn't any vehicle he owns crushed ?
Sometimes the things that people wihtin the country are prepared to accept amaze me, especially when compared to the immediate outcry over someone driving a 4x4, or the anger at an unreasonabel parkign ticket etc. etc. etc.
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Advocating capital punishment is one thing, but perhaps a read of this article on the birch might bring home how tough a punishment it was.
tinyurl.com/69zmq
Anyone want to suggest the return of the birch?
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Roger
A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.
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i suppose its better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.......not
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There will be some change to our amazingly liberal criminal justice system.........there'll have to be..... There's already rumblings about parental control and discipline in schools (or more accurately, the lack of it).
If you allowed a dog to do what it likes from the word go, it would be a sodding nuisance.....the principle is the same with people..... fortunately the 'oiks' are very much in the minority, but God help us if they weren't... our CJ system certainly wouldn't, the schools aren't allowed to and many parents choose not to.
I know i sound old and grumpy....................but there's a good reason for that...............I am
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Advocating capital punishment is one thing, but perhaps a read of this article on the birch might bring home how tough a punishment it was. tinyurl.com/69zmq Anyone want to suggest the return of the birch? -- Roger A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.
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Seems the ideal punishment as far as I'm concerned, not sure what the do gooders would say though! ;-)
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Sounds like a good idea to me.
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I would certainly bring back the birch and capital punishment. The scum only understand physical punishment and no amount of social do-gooders having group discussions and explaining what is right or wrong to these people has the slightest effect.
I worked with these people for the best part of my working life and seeing them for real only makes one more extreme.
They are the most astute people imaginable in invoking sympathy from the social brigade and come back into their cells laughing as they explain how they manipulate these people.
They even have the jargon and body language tought to them by other cons....First few interviews to be defensive and then gradually see the light. It also does wonders for the welfare brigades ego as they describe how they are beginning to get results.
Nobody as far as Prison folk law applies has ever had the birch twice.
wemyss
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Thank you, wemyss, for that reply!. As one who went through the public school system in the early fifties, I can testify to the efficaciousness of the cane. There was an interesting sub-culture that whereas four of the best was probably deserved, to get six meant that you had been really stupid and were treated accordingly. I only ever got four. Not for nothing was it called the Seat of Learning!
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e Prof - Another Recycled Teenager
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them do gooders need a good hiding as well
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>> >> Anyone want to suggest the return of the birch?
Sounds like just the job. Reading the first 10 paragraphs of that story, I failed to have any sympathy for him whatsoever.
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I never saw any birching personally but going back to the early sixties a colleague of mine was assaulted in a Walton Prison workshop.
With no warning he was struck violently on the back of his head several times with a hammer by a Prisoner.
He was knocked unconscious and was lucky to have a strong constitution.
He eventually came back on duty but had a complete change of personality due to the damage.
The offender was sentenced to X strokes of the birch and an extra prison sentence. Bert was back on duty when this was carried out.
He recited the details of it many times and I believe it helped him in some way that physical pain had been given back to his assailant.
He would always finish his story with ?That man will never attack another member of Staff again? Volunteers were always called for from Prison Officers and there was no shortage of these and the Chief Officer would choose the strongest one.
The prisoner would be screaming in pain and terror after the first half dozen strokes but only the Prison Doctor was allowed to stop punishment which he didn?t.
Today the same offence would warrant a extra few months in prison if he was unlucky. How times and punishments have changed.
wemyss
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People like this need our help not punishment - we should send them on holiday somewhere to allow them to reflect on their behaviour and talk to them nicely.
We should not allow schools to discipline with corporate punishment and I'm glad the local bobby can no longer give my children a clip round the ear like he did me.............NOT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hope the do gooders in this world are pleased with themselves when they see stories like this after promoting the daft culture and attitude to these people that I describe above.
Still we could always write them an ASBO.
I'm afraid that until we get back to promoting decent family & community values and get a government that supports them then this is what we will get.
I'm not saying stuff like this never happened in the 'good old days' but there is certainly a breakdown in respect for the community & family and IMO it's driven from the top of government all the way down - blimey I am feeling political tonight.
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Like eProf and probably others I was caned and hit with hairbrushes, rubber coshes and the like at school. Different institutions had different systems.
It certainly concentrated my mind at the time, and hurt like hell, but I'm glad to say it didn't reform me or make me virtuous or indeed a sadist or masochist with a taste for that sort of thing. It did give me a healthy short-term reluctance to seriously annoy the authorities in certain ways, which I imagine was what it was supposed to do.
The only person I know who was ever birched is in fact a day younger than me and of course an extremely respectable person. That was at school too, but I never went to a school where they used the birch.
What a bunch os sanctimonious twits people are these days.
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I would give the "gentleman" in question his own custom made cell.
And then pile the earth back on top of him.
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