why is the peugeot 207 cc a girls car? - fray bentos
Very tempted to get one of these for me and 'er indoors but why have the Telegraph and Honest Johns reviews both refered to them as being a bit female orientated? They used to say this about mx5s. I thought it must be only jealous blokes who can't afford one who say this or have I missed something? Seems a cracking deal to me!
why is the peugeot 207 cc a girls car? - No FM2R
>>I thought it must be only jealous blokes who can't afford one who say this

Close. Its the desperate need to knock anything distinctive someone else has got if you don't have one yourself.
why is the peugeot 207 cc a girls car? - stevied
I think there is an element of tongue-in-cheekness (and please don't go ANYWHERE with that comment!!!) here that some people are missing! : )

Some cars are a bit less straight than others, and I don't think joking about that is offensive. Speaking as someone who is straight, but as one of my gay friends says, is as "camp as Millett's" I guess I am not bothered about such things. I used to take great delight, when I owned a TT (itself a bit metrosexual) in offering my mates a lift and then turning up in my then-girlfriend's electric blue Tigra. Oh how they laughed as they beat me to a pulp.

A friend of mine used to drive a purple Suzuki SJ410. I bet his "stones" are huge.....
why is the peugeot 207 cc a girls car? - Big Bad Dave
"Speaking as someone who is straight, but as one of my gay friends says, is as "camp as Millett's"

Funny, that never comes across in your angry posts Stevie. I was going to suggest a beer on my next trip over but perhaps we could meet for Appleteenies.
why is the peugeot 207 cc a girls car? - stevied
Ooh, hark at her...... : )

I actually drink John Smiths or Boddingtons, but I like the idea of being an Appleteenie type....

I think it's more my turn of phrase and mannerisms, I don't wear pink or anything like that (not in the week anyway).

why is the peugeot 207 cc a girls car? - No FM2R
Appearances aren't much to go by; Llook at BBD - it turns out he's not an aggressive, homicidal, drugged -up, mafia hitman after all.
why is the peugeot 207 cc a girls car? - stevied
Oh I don't know, some of his posts have the odd disturbing comment in them! : )

What is the gay/straight/metro/stray/gait take on the VW Eos then? I can't decide. It's a nice looking car, but all these coupbriolets are a bit borderline aren't they?
why is the peugeot 207 cc a girls car? - Round The Bend
"all these coupbriolets are a bit borderline aren't they?"

Yeah, real men don't need roofs.
{Wanders off muttering ....."I used to live in carboard box in middle of road ........"}

why is the peugeot 207 cc a girls car? - Lud
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I would say two things on this thread. One is that most homosexuals aren't remotely 'camp'. The other is that some cars - nearly all two-seater Mercedeses for example - seem to me to be girly or hairdressery cars, but not one of them has ever seemed gay.
why is the peugeot 207 cc a girls car? - stevied
There is a definite difference isn't there? GIrly/hairdressery is probably more accurate. I've had an MX-3 and a TT, I probably need to invest in a Holden Commodore or something to redress the balance!!

What an interesting life you've led, Lud.... I can't compete. I did once meet Stu Francis and Ron Dixon (off Brookside) both in the same night (oh the excitement) when I worked at a Warner hotel, but you're in a different league!!
why is the peugeot 207 cc a girls car? - Lud
Some posters are referring to sexism as if they weren't guilty of it (if you can call it guilt - I know some women who would) when the whole thread is well, sexist.

Actually I don't mind being suspected of sexism any more than I mind people thinking I might be gay. This is one you can't win, except by tying yourself in utterly moronic looking knots.

Let the passers-by think what they like. They will anyway.
why is the peugeot 207 cc a girls car? - Leif
Some posters are referring to sexism as if they weren't guilty
of it (if you can call it guilt - I know
some women who would) when the whole thread is well, sexist.



Some people consider any indication that there are differences between the sexes (apart from the obvious physical ones) as sexist. That is daft IMO. But saying "A woman cannot be an engineer" would be sexist.

And the 207CC is girlie. Some misguided souls even think the Ford Ka is girlie, rather than a modestly priced, economical and well made hatchback ... There is no accounting for taste.
why is the peugeot 207 cc a girls car? - Lud
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Not that I give a damn, but why? And after all this time too.
why is the peugeot 207 cc a girls car? - PoloGirl
>Not that I give a damn, but why? And after all this time too.

I was removing a lot of chaff from the thread...I couldn't remove some more recent off topic stuff and let your equally off topic remarks stand. Hope you understand, even if you don't give a damn.

PG
why is the peugeot 207 cc a girls car? - Lud
Mm, bit off topic I suppose. I was interested by stevied's remark about his gay friends calling him camp although he isn't gay. Just remembered the same thing being done to me by experts all those years ago... You're sure no one took offence then?
why is the peugeot 207 cc a girls car? - greyhound
I like the look of the new 207cc, I run a 2004 MX5 which handles better than my previous MGB and is totally reliable, French electrics and roofs?! - a colleague had loads of hassle with a Pluriel. If you like the car buy it for youself, not for other peoples opinion.
why is the peugeot 207 cc a girls car? - davidh
When you look at a Human being, you can tell by the curves (or lack thereof) whether said person is male or female.

Why not cars? Surely some cars look female because something in our minds link it with feminin-ness - I'm not talking specifically about curves as in my above example cos curvy cars can be male or female oriented. Either way, this is neither bad nor good.

For what its worth, I think the 207cc is a female car for "women of a certain age" who no nothing about cars but it looks cutesy.

Now ducks for cover...
why is the peugeot 207 cc a girls car? - Leif
When you look at a Human being, you can tell by
the curves (or lack thereof) whether said person is male or
female.



Some women have no breasts. Some men have large ones.
why is the peugeot 207 cc a girls car? - R75
Was at a clients house today and she has one, And she looks the part in at as well, long blonde hair, curvy, very, very attractive and mid thirties, but I have to say they are a bit of a girly car, can't remember ever seeing a bloke driving one - but have seen a few blokes being driven in them, not my cup of tea but the driver is normally worthy of a look and a smile ;o)
why is the peugeot 207 cc a girls car? - fray bentos
Thats interesting as the car was only launched 6 days ago!
why is the peugeot 207 cc a girls car? - R75
Thats interesting as the car was only launched 6 days ago!

That made me go onto the pug website and have a look, I am sure it is a 207, but it could be a 206cc - If I am wrong my defence is the surrounding view was very appealing and as a result the car was not my first thought :o)
why is the peugeot 207 cc a girls car? - Micky
It's not a girls car, it is effeminate. And what's wrong with proper longjohns, complete with the appropriate flap arrangements?
why is the peugeot 207 cc a girls car? - fray bentos
What about the hatchback version then?
why is the peugeot 207 cc a girls car? - milkyjoe
What about the hatchback version then?
do you mean the long johns?
why is the peugeot 207 cc a girls car? - fray bentos
Brilliant!
why is the peugeot 207 cc a girls car? - wemyss
Have heard before you lads describe certain cars as being girly although I fail to see how a piece of machinery qualifies. I?ve always been aware that HJ often describes various motors as being suitable for hairdressers which has always puzzled me. In fact now I think back I used his experience once in recommending a car to such a person.
Please enlighten a naïve getting on a bit bloke exactly what he means. If its what I?m beginning to think it means leaves me in a predicament.
Today I was looking round Hilton Cars which is quite a site for the next small car for the wife although I will as usual do most of the driving in it. The sales lads in their smart suits hovered around. Do I ask ?Is this one suitable or not suitable for an hairdresser?
Would I get some queer looks or just sniggers behind my back or would they just not understand.
wemyss

why is the peugeot 207 cc a girls car? - cardriver
why is the peugeot 207 cc a girls car?

Just look at it !!!!!
why is the peugeot 207 cc a girls car? - fray bentos
Thankyou for your highly logical and intelligent answer Cardriver, I think you'd make a good high court judge; 'he's guilty, just look at him!'
why is the peugeot 207 cc a girls car? - milkyjoe
Thankyou for your highly logical and intelligent answer Cardriver, I think
you'd make a good high court judge; 'he's guilty, just look
at him!'


is this the same judge who wears stockings under his robes?
why is the peugeot 207 cc a girls car? - stevied
You'll certainly get some queer comments. : )
why is the peugeot 207 cc a girl's car? - Avant
64 posts and not an apostrophe between them - shame!

At the risk of being a party-pooper by introducing a vaguely logical note into this thread, surety a lot of small cars can be labelled girls' cars simply because in the old-fashioned family set-up the man drives the big car and the woman the small car?

Sometimes it's chauvinism - he won't let her drive his pride and joy - sometimes she prefers a small car: in my case it's simply that I drive four times her annual mileage. Going back to when the children were at school, she usually drove one of a series of big family Renaults and I drove the diesel 205 (no hardship, especially as the second one was a turbo).

Maybe statistically there are more men who prefer big cars and more women who prefer small cars? We're equal, but that doesn't mean we're the same.
why is the peugeot 207 cc a girl's car? - GroovyMucker
It's instinct, isn't it, which allows one to say a particular model is a girls' car.

I don't think size is the only determinant. Cabriolet Volvos and Saabs are, to me, girlie cars, as are BMW 1s; and Capris (apart from the 2.8 and 3.0) used to be.


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Stevie
Lakland 44-02 Sunburst
Yamaha YTS-23
why is the peugeot 207 cc a girl's car? - DP
I used to get good natured wind-ups from some of my mates when I drove the MX-5. One of my mates in particular who is a keen driver was among the worst offenders until I gave him the keys one day at the beginning of one of our favourite bits of road and told him to go for it. At the other end he had a huge grin on his face, and actually apologised and took it all back.

It's a classic example of how image drives the car market. This is just one keen driver who would have dismissed a brilliant little sports car without even driving one because "it's girly". The same principle applies across the car market. I know people who drive base spec BMW's and Mercedes not because they want a BMW or Mercedes particularly, but because they "won't drive a Ford".

People are interesting creatures. I understand we Brits are among the most image obsessed motorists in the world. In mainland Europe, a BMW is a family runabout, and a Mercedes is a taxi. Over here, they're something quite different.

People are funny creatures.

Cheers
DP
why is the peugeot 207 cc a girl's car? - Blue {P}
I can't pretend to know exactly why, but it is true that these sort of cars attract women and gay men by the boat load, I'm sure some straight men must buy them, but I don't know any. Some of you may remember me mentioning just the other day that one of my mates bought a new Tigra, he can't explain why he loves it, he just does.

I've often wondered about my own car buying tastes though, I am gay, but not particularly camp, and I like the biggest most powerful cars that I can find. Out of all of my gay friends, not one of them drives a car like mine, they're all in Micras, Bravos, Fiestas etc. I only have one gay mate (a nightclub doorman) who likes cars as big as mine but he doesn't own a car at the moment so doesn't count! The only mates I've got who drive cars as big or powerful as mine are all straight. Oh and yes, if I had my way I would be driving a 300C but sadly can't afford one at this stage in my life, byt the time I can afford one I'm quite sure that cars that size will be illegal or something.

I would like an MGTF as a second car to run alongside the Beemer though... Guess that just helps prove the popular throry about this type of car!

Blue
why is the peugeot 207 cc a girl's car? - cardriver
>>Thankyou for your highly logical and intelligent answer Cardriver, I think you'd make a good high court judge; 'he's guilty, just look at him!'<<

Thanks freybentos - I pride myslef on common sense and logic when answering queries - you asked for an opinion on why the car looks girlie and I replied. I post the 4car comments below for reference that may help in your assessment of the car - you could always put your foot down though and show your good lady who's boss.


>>It's handsome from the front, too: less obviously girlie than before, with its slanted headlights and wide mesh grille, it may well get the vote from boys who need to share their girlfriend's car (just 12% of 206 CC buyers were male). It's more masculine than the Micra C+C, anyway. <<
why is the peugeot 207 cc a girl's car? - fray bentos
All these answers but still NO objective reason why this car may be seen by some people as a girls car! Thing is, we'll probably buy one as there doesnt seem to be any viable alternative.The SLK is a bit dear,the Audis only got a fabric roof, the meganes too old,the EOS leaks,and the Focus cc has just has a recall due to malfunctioning roofs! If however we buy something more 'manly', when 'er indoors drives it ,is everyone gonna think(as if we care) shes a lesbian! You just can't win.

Fray.
why is the peugeot 207 cc a girl's car? - cardriver
Fantastic response freybentos. I like it - although I will not be showing it to my wfe as she will think I am making her look like a lesbian with the car I chose for her.
In all seriousness (previous posts were friendly banter) - if you do get one- enjoy it to the full especially with the good weather coming and with the top down and please keep us posted on what you do and your experience.
why is the peugeot 207 cc a girl's car? - Lud
with the top down and please keep
us posted on what you do and your experience.


But don't bother to list all the wolf-whistles and suggestive comments from builders and white van men :o)
why is the peugeot 207 cc a girl's car? - PoloGirl
>All these answers but still NO objective reason why this car may be seen by some people as a girls car!

And yet you keep bumping the thread up, hoping against hope that someone will come and say "it's ok, you can buy one, we approve and we wont think you're a woman if you buy one."

>You just can't win

I'm not sure what you think you can/can't win. If you want the car, and you like it, buy it.

why is the peugeot 207 cc a girl's car? - Blue {P}
I think there is NO definitive answer as to why the car may be gay/girly, that's if the usual answer of "because they're mainly driven by women and gays" isn't definitive enough! :-)

It's like trying to say why any particular thing is gay or girlie, take the image of a rainbow for example, the only reason that I can think of that makes it a bit gay is simply because it is used by so many gay organisaions in logos etc.

Now take the colour pink, that used to be worn almost exclusively by girls and gays, no longer, I see as many if not more straight lads wearing pink t-shirts around the city than I do gay ones, the only thing that makes pink a "straighter" colour now is purely that more straight people are wearing it now, it's not as if the colour itself has changed, just it's popularity amongst different people.

I'm not sure that I've explained my point very well with this parituclar ramble, I hope others get what I'm saying, all i'm trying to say is that there is no physical characteristic that makes the car girly, just that it's status is decided by what popular fashion dictates. If you don't care about the opinions of other then why worry?

Blue
why is the peugeot 207 cc a girl's car? - rogue-trooper
FreyBentos, I have to agree with PG that you seem to be dragging this one out.

Check out this

www.rethinkpink.com/latest+news.asp

look down and you'll see the 207cc there and then look at the heading of the website