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How can a droning noise ever sound good? Unless it's a Deltic of course, that's different.
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Tricky to fit a Deltic motor under the bonnet though :-D
Once had the "pleasure" of being on Grantham station when a Deltic went through pulling an Intercity, he was probably doing around 70 and just as he passed me he cracked the throttle ... glorious
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Yes, there are some very peculiar people who travel 100s of miles to view Deltic-engined things! Even ones that don't work. I personally visited a NASTY boat in Cornwall several years ago that was undergoing renovation, similar to this:
www.ptfnasty.com/images/jpg/PTF17a.jpg
So Steve, if you read this, is it running yet? Was there a hint of exhaust haze on start-up? Deltics are still hauling passenger trains in the UK, full of enthusiasts though so probably best viewed from a distance. It's the bang and crash of start-up that's a surprise, and has been likened by untrained ears to a Merlin, and then another Merlin starts. Not quite, but still something to be anticipated. And the burble/warble bit, and then that scream, or was that the engineer as he watched another quill shaft bite the dust? The drive to Cornwall was diabolical, next time I'll leave at 3.00am.
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Is it me or was your posting written in code? Nice piccy though!
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They're obviously all ex-railwaymen Nsar... I've never heard of a Deltic either but as you say the pic gives the general idea...
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ISTR that the Deltic was fitted in a far less exciting Naval vessel - the Ton class sweepers. Fine engine, but they rolled in wet grass....
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no idea what a deltic is, but back to the OP - a scooby diesel could be very interesting.
Do you think there will be a sensible (ie GS model) and a hot one (wrx) and an even hotter one (STi) ?
will definitely be watching with interest!
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I reckon it will sound pretty nice. I've heard buses that sounded good before so it's not impossible!
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I`m beginning to think that people that like the sound of a diesel engine are tone deaf and unmusical.
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"I`m beginning to think that people that like the sound of a diesel engine are tone deaf and unmusical. "
Oh yes.
I don't have one for just that reason, even though it would save £££s in co car tax. My wife (who's a concert pianist and has extremely sensitive hearing) goes into spasm whenever she hears a diesel.
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"I`m beginning to think that people that like the sound of a diesel engine are tone deaf and unmusical. " Oh yes.
I'm not tone deaf either, but as with petrol, it's all down to number of cylinders, five being the minimum, or RPM. Although I love the sound of my 600cc four cylinder sportsbike engine winding through 13,000RPM, I won't have a four cylinder petrol engine in a car of my own, let alone a diesel, aurally finding them both boring and uncultured. As examples of two recent design cars Sister-in-law's V50 1.8 is a nice machine but has absolutely zip aural excitement and a friend's new Golf diesel is such a horrendous bucket of bolts that it should never have been let out of the design shop.
Both my brother's five cylinder Volvo diesel and my petrol variant however have a wonderful sound to them; smooth and cultured at all times, rising to a tuneful growl under high load. Even at idle they have a nice rhythm to them.
So, stick with five cylinders or more and you have a chance of something worth listening to, petrol or diesel.
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So, stick with five cylinders or more and you have a chance of something worth listening to, petrol or diesel.
Fine if you can afford the running costs.
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43 mpg from my S60 D5, and I like the sound as well, not that I really notice until I provoke it. By comparison with the Passat TDI 130 I considered it against (in 2002) it sounds like Brendel playing Schubert.
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Twin Deltics in NASTY boat guise have rather high fuel consumption at speed, 6000+ bhp though so there is some benefit. Still, someone's got to use the black stuff.
I don't think the Deltic locos ever ran at 6000 bhp though, probably a mere 3000bhp,
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I am 75% of the way through a 3 year lease on a D5 V70 and it is truly gruesome. It also never gives more than 34mpg even on a long run. The trip computer reports soemthing like 44mpg but the diesel pump says otherwise.
If Subaru fit a six cylinder diesel to an Impreza than I might be tempted but it would depend on refinement.
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Sorry, meant an Impreza Estate
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>> So, stick with five cylinders or more and you have a >> chance of something worth listening to, petrol or diesel. Fine if you can afford the running costs.
My old V70 2.4 petrol averaged 31mpg. Just the same as the slower and duller Mondeo 2.0 petrols I owned... :)
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">Just the same as the slower and duller Mondeo 2.0 petrols I owned... :)<"
No cornering involved then? ;-)
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My wife (who's a concert pianist and has extremely sensitive hearing) goes into spasm whenever she hears a diesel.
Musicians (classical musicians most of all) are notoriously picky and adopt positions just for the hell of it, especially when it comes to their "unique" abilities. Coming from a family which includes several professional classical musicians I know what I'm talking about. Here's some dating advice: don't, it will end in tears. But now you're in this mess peterb, just nod and smile nicely.
Funnily enough now I think about it all of those classical musician relatives drive diesels.
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"Musicians (classical musicians most of all) are notoriously picky and adopt positions just for the hell of it, especially when it comes to their "unique" abilities. Coming from a family which includes several professional classical musicians I know what I'm talking about. Here's some dating advice: don't, it will end in tears. But now you're in this mess peterb, just nod and smile nicely.
LOL. Nod and smile nicely works well...
"Funnily enough now I think about it all of those classical musician relatives drive diesels."
That's because classical music doesn't pay well (unless you're Pavarotti)
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> That's because classical music doesn't pay well
True. There are a lot of long, late-night journeys too, and you'd generally rather not be standing on a wet forecourt in your evening clothes, so the long range on a tankful of diesel must come in handy.
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Is the diesel arriving just as we're all being forced to look at hybrids?
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Went in Prius this week. The guy who owned it had done 19,000 miles in just over a year and was averaging over 47mpg with a lot of driving in central London. I think that's pretty good for an automatic.
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Mods: Why have a load of posts been hidden on this thread, yet if I search for my own post from my Profile's posting history, I can see the lot of them. I don't recall seeing anything warranting editing,
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Mods: Why have a load of posts been hidden on this thread...
I can see posts regardless of whether they're hidden or not, and I can assure you that none have been hidden in this thread.
DD.
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I can see posts regardless of whether they're hidden or not, and I can assure you that none have been hidden in this thread. DD.
Thanks, DD.
Weird though: I kept my original web session open and can clearly see a whole bunch of post connected to one branch of the thread are missing. Opening a second window, I now see all threads!
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And blow me down! After the browser window auto refreshed having posted the comment above, the branch is missing from display again... Opening a second window shows them still to be hidden.
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180 bhp as I understand it.
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SjB,
Problem still there, or has it resolved itself? DD.
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SjB, Problem still there, or has it resolved itself? DD.
Just repeated the test, DD, in both this thread and also the Bugatti Veyron thread where I could reproduce the same effect; solved, ta
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