Sorry FM2R but you're stuck. I've been there. Disk started to die on me. Before it was totally dead I tried the "Recovery" disk which reported that it didn't recognise the config and went off and sulked. So now I won't buy a machine unless it comes with an installation disk.
Assuming that you have the sticker on your machine showing the licence nbr then you could borrow an installation CD. Alternatively you'll have to buy a copy. You might be able to buy an OEM copy costing in the mid £60s from memory.
Good luck.
JH
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I guess a system restore was no help then?
If the problem one has a fully populated i386 directory you could try this
www.updatexp.com/scannow-sfc.html
which will do a System File Check and replace damaged Windows system files.
That diectory may exist on another machine of yours and at 475 Meg a half decent USB stick could be used to copy it across.
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>>That diectory may exist on another machine of yours>>
This would have been one suggestion I would have made - in fact it (hopefully) might already be on the system in question from WINDOWS>Drivers Cache.
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1. >> I have a computer which has a legitimate copy of XP. ...
presumably you therefore have hte genuine key. in which case any cd with a copy of the xp version (home, pro, corporate, whatever) you have on your machine will do. do not any of your "mates" (or ask adam) at work have a copy they can lend you? see reply by "Dan at IT Associates " here
forums.microsoft.com/Genuine/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=...5
2. >> ... Can you download XP from anywhere ? Can you download repair disks ?
if the answer to the first part is no, and you really do mean anywhere then there are free warez sources you can find using google. however, i do not know of any free legitimate source. however, you may be able to buy legit oem disc at places such as www.cex.co.uk
in reply to oldman from his earlier post:AVG upgrade/replacement? - oldman Sat 30 Dec 06 14:42 ... Im still annoyed that my main computer cost me lotsa money but microsoft insist its a copied disc and wont let me upgrade their defender without giving them a lump of money ...
if oldman does have a legit machine, he can get replacement free xp cd from microsoft
Microsoft is fully committed to helping any genuine customers who have been victims of counterfeit software, and offer free replacement copies of Windows to those who?ve been duped by high quality counterfeiters. As always people can find more information about what Microsoft is doing at the genuine site as well as our ?How to Tell? and ?Piracy? sites.
follow their guidance at
www.microsoft.com/resources/howtotell/uk/prepurcha...x
forums.microsoft.com/Genuine/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=...5
forums.microsoft.com/Genuine/ShowForum.aspx?ForumI...5
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Dalglish,
A corporate version of Windows is different to retail/OEM and so are the keys. OP needs a retail copy to use a copy of Windows retail with the key listed on the sticker on the PC.
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A corporate version of Windows is different to retail/OEM and so are the keys . OP needs a retail copy to use a copy of Windows retail with the key listed on the sticker on the PC.
i know, and the point i was making was that no_fm2r needs to get hold of a copy cd of the exact same version as is currently on his knackered machine, i.e. home, pro, corp, media or o.e.m or whatever.
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Non offensive non-necessary personal information removed. smokie
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Dalglish
I was responding to facts in OP post, i.e. he did not have the install media. It sounds like a home PC and therefore corporate installs on a home not really legal and lets not go there. If it was supported by his company/employer then he'd have not posted would he? Therefore it is a personal PC and he needs to get hold of the install media.
The easiest option is to check what version he is licensed for (Home or Professional) and as you say borrow the media from somone. Not legal. If he did a clean install on the same hardware then at registration point for XP all should be okay.
As I say since he has not specified version I have and I think we should assume not corporate or he'd get the IT department to sort it for free. But no-one should not be calling on IT departments to sort out a home PC and no_fm2r seems to be asking us for help. Heck if he lived near Stockport I could probably loan the CD.... Home, Prof or Corporate (I work in IT).
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... as you say borrow the media from somone. Not legal. ...
rtj70 -
it is perfectly legal to use any copy of cd to reinstall files. you will find this method sugested on the microsoft official forum, and indeed in the link posted in my first reply. it is not legal to use the key/pid.
( as for the other points, they are a diversion from a misunderstanding of my origianl reply. )
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In a loosly related vein, I read yesterday of a change of tack that Microsoft has introduced with Vista; no longer is it possibly to transfer a copy of of the operating system ad infinitum between machines, say as a result of HDD failures or simply buying a new PC and disposing of the old one sans o/s. Such transferring is only possible once.
news.com.com/Microsoft+limits+Vista+transfers/2100...l
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it's far more complicated than that, and in part you're right but I believe that if you pay full whack for a retail version (ie go in the shop, hand over lots of money) then you can do what you want with it. An OEM copy, ie one that comes with a m/c is tied to that m/c. But it is needlessly complicated so if you know better I'll duck!
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.. no_fm2r needs to get hold of a copy cd of the exact same version as is currently on his knackered machine
possible sources for restore-cds:
www.gennersales.co.uk/#Windows_Recovery_CDs
www.restoredisks.com/
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if oldman does have a legit machine, he can get replacement free xp cd from microsoft...
oldman:
forums.microsoft.com/Genuine/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=...5
forums.microsoft.com/Genuine/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=...5
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1) thanks for the help. I appreciate it.
2) Its not a work machine, or someone would get a call. Its not even mine, because they still might get a call. Its a friend's personal machine
Dalglish - thanks, I shall get him a recovery disk in the near future.
All: had a bit of a brainwave; SP" replaces a *load* of files. I dropped SP2 onto stick, and upadted the dodgy machine. Lo and there was light - stroke of luck although slightly irritating in that I prefer to fix things. However, it obviously nailed many of the dodgy files as the machine worked long enough to get various spyware/various checkers to run and all is more rosy. [Although the SP2 update failed about 5 times before finally completing.
Now, here's the last hurdle - no internet connectivity. Random stuff what I know/have worked out;
The broadband connection works since the other laptop next to it is connecting out.
All connection settings and LAN settings seem to be the same, although I may well have missed something
bad machien acquires the correct ip addreses as seen in ipconfig
Pinging good machine to bad machine times out
Pinging bad machine to good machine results in "PING: transmit failed, error code 5"
good machine can ping itself
bad machine attempting to ping itself results in "PING: transmit failed, error code 5"
Internet Explorer is detecting that there is a connection there since it stops trying to dial a connection, however it cannot connect to anything, not even the router.
bad machine now seems stable, everything else seems to work
TCP/IP REPAIR shareware failed to make any difference
Can't find anything relevant on Google other than .............
www.experts-exchange.com/Operating_Systems/WinXP/Q...l
...........which requires signing up and a credit card to get an answer. Definitely last resort.
Any steers, random thoughts, clues, pointers anything at all, appreciated.
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Now, here's the last hurdle - no internet connectivity. Random stuff what I know/have worked out; The broadband connection works since the other laptop next to it is connecting out. All connection settings and LAN settings seem to be the same, although I may well have missed something bad machien acquires the correct ip addreses as seen in ipconfig Pinging good machine to bad machine times out good machine can ping itself bad machine attempting to ping itself results in "PING: transmit failed, error code 5" Internet Explorer is detecting that there is a connection there since it stops trying to dial a connection, however it cannot connect to anything, not even the router.
A couple of things from me:
the firewall is changed in SP2 and can stop connections out as well as into the machine
check the properties of your network connection - make sure it is enabled.
I've seen an XP machine which got into "difficulties" disable its network connection.
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>>the firewall is changed in SP2 and can stop connections out as well as into the machine>>
The SP2 Windows firewall only works one way, which is why the free version of ZoneAlarm is the choice of many (disable the Windows firewall if you use another firewall).
As you have installed SP2, you still need to bring the system right up to date with SP2 patches, updates, critical updates etc.
Easiest way is to use AutoPatcher (latest version) from:
www.autopatcher.com
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Can't find anything relevant on Google other than ............. www.experts-exchange.com/Operating_Systems/WinXP/Q...l ...........which requires signing up and a credit card to get an answer. Definitely last resort.
no_fm2r: i just tried that link, and it opens up in full for me without having to click the "view solution" button. top one-sixth is the question, next one-sixth is their adware, then the final two-thirds of the page is responses plus the "accepted" expert solution.
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>>these are 64 QAM broadcasts notorious for break up problems.>>
In fairness I and a lot of other people have been caught out by this website, thinking you have to subscribe to see possible solutions...:-)
However, the layout is a little different to what I remember.
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>>no_fm2r: i just tried that link,>>
Wrong C and P for quote in above posting...:-(
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Still getting that error 5.
Followed every link mentioned above, tried all tactics, routes and solutions.
The computer absolutely knows that the connection is there, but it won't use it. Slightly at a loss right now.
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Ok well you have the TCPIP software stack (layer) and the hardware layer.
To prove the software stack try pinging 127.0.0.1' (the local loop back) from the defective machine. If that fails your TCPIP stack is defective. If it works its probably hardware (or hardware settings)
Check you have the adaptor set to duplex and the correct speed (Network connections-right click/properties/advanced)
I have had very similar problems from a defective cable, defective card, or defective (or badly configured) port on router.
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>>To prove the software stack try pinging 127.0.0.1' (the local loop back) from the defective machine
It works. Which is a surprise, albeit welcome. Which settings ? If I pull the cable from that laptop and plug it into another it works immediately. Comparing the LAN settings and the TCP/IP settings I cannot find a difference. Hints ?
I'm on as Administrator. No Firewalls enabled.
M.
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ICF = internet connection firewall. (or the inter city firm! 6-0! jesus!)
Ok so the local loopback pinging means the TCPIP doftware stack is ok, but may not be bound to the hardware.
The hardware settings you need to check are duplex and speed. make sure its full duplex, and fix a speed (for diagnosis dont let it auto negotiate speed) try 10mbs first then 100mbs. What link lights do you get?
YOu have excluded the cable and router port, I am leaning towards a TCPIP adaptor hardware failure. Try logically removing it from windows and let windows find it again and reload drivers (and a new interupt)
quick question, your router is not blocking it by only allowing certain mac addresses?
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>>your router is not blocking it by only allowing certain mac addresses?
No.
>>he hardware settings you need to check are duplex and speed. make sure its full duplex, and fix a speed
Got a number of choices. 10 half, 10 full, 100 half, 100 full, AutoMode. Was on Auto Mode, then 10 Full, now on 100 full. No change/difference.
Link lights ?
>>Try logically removing it from windows and let windows find it again and reload drivers (and a new interupt)
A little more specific ?
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>>Try logically removing it from windows and let windows find it again and reload drivers
well, flip me sideways with the rough edge of a pineapple.
I guess that's a significant amount of beer owed then.
Thank you one and all for your efforts. I learned a lot, fixed the problem and got in debt to TVM. Mixed blessings.
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>>fixed the problem and got in debt to TVM.>>
Now you are really in trouble...:-)
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>>defective cable, defective card, or defective (or badly configured) port on router
defective cable - not
defective card - don't think so, but possible
defective (or badly configured) port on router - not
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Still getting that error 5. Followed every link mentioned above, tried all tactics, routes and solutions. The computer absolutely knows that the connection is there, but it won't use it. Slightly at a loss right now.
Have you tried disabling the (ICF) firewall?
Are you logged on with administrative rights?
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