Just about to buy 4 new Goodyear NCT5s. Used then before and have been very happy.
An odd pricing aspect at Elite tyres. 195x65x15" H speeds are £50-47p, but at V speed they are cheaper at £46-94p.
I know V speeds have a higher speed so I assume they are safer, BUT are they noisier, wear more or have any other disadvantages?
Why would one not always go for the higher speed even though I will get nowhere near the quoted speed?
Any ideas?
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Each time I bought NCT5s the V-rated have been cheaper than the H-rated. The strange price differential may be due to wholesalers buying Vs in bulk and selling them to both H and V customers, thus keeping their volume up. I always bought the Vs, on cost, they're made in South Africa, I don't know where the Hs are made.
Goodyear NCT5 should be very cheap now as they're "run out" having been replaced by the similarly priced, but better performing, Goodyear Excellence.
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Very interesting. Anyone any idea how much better Excellence are? My last NCT5s were German built and very quiet.
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They do not do Excellence in my size. These Goodyears are cheap and I have been happy in the past. How bad is it to buy run out tyres? Are newer models always better?
Any views?
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The only problem you may encounter is finding the same type for replacement after an unrepairable puncture.
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No there's no problem with "run out" tyres, just make sure the price reflects that.
>>The only problem you may encounter is finding the same type for replacement after an unrepairable puncture>>
That aplies to any tyre you ever buy!
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What of views on the H verses V tyre speed debate/issue?
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Job done.
In the end I went for 4 NCT5s at £46-76p each with EVERYTHING included. £187-76p walk away price.
The chap at Elite Tyres Rainham suggested that (as suggested), they are more popular and they can get them a bit cheaper, and he saw no difference in performance levels, apart from obviously speed. So I went for V speed tyres. I suppose they may have a little more blow out protection as they have such a large reserve of speed capacity.
Interestingly the tyres are Made in China ....inevitably. Why did I feel better with Made in Germany? Still, most Sony stuff is now Chinese as is a lot of the new Boeing 787. Airbus are soon to make A320s there.
By the way, my first trip to Elite tyres and very impressed with the service and straight nature of how they do business. The whole outfit seems very professional. Plus at these prices budget tyres hardly seem worth it. Very good website too.
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As the speed rating increases, there may be differences in compound, as faster tyres are more likely to need higher grip levels - softer compound. They main difference though will be in the carcass. As speed ratings (and load indexes) increase, so the carcass needs to be stronger.
Joe
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Goodyear tyres made in China, how long has this been going on then?
I think I will cross Goodyear off my list. They close the Wolverhampton factory and set up in China, no doubt paying the workers a bowl of rice a day, and polluting the atmosphere to boot.
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Maybe they are grey imports? made for the Asian market?
About 4 years ago, I had 4 Goodyear Eagle F1s, all Made in Germany, after a while one burst, and the replacement was Made in Indonesia. Apart from that it looked identical. I queried this and was told it was a grey import and that was why it was £86 whereas the others had been £115.
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UPDATE
Had the time to check things over today.
Tyre presures had been set at 34 not 29 lbs, and wheel nuts at probably 145lbs of torque not the correct 81 ft/lbs.
I can't say what they really were as they were off the scale of my torque wrench. I needed a 2 1/2 foot breaker bar + a lot of grunt to slacken them off. The company were very apologetic and said bring it back for a check, but I had already corrected the problems.
Why is it that if one does not do every job oneself, one can't trust it to be done right. I was a bit worried at staying in the 'customer lounge' rather than watching it done. Last time at Kwick-Fit I watch it being done and told the lad what the pressures and torque were, so that I could see him manually torque it up properly.
I thought the days of the young lad with a 150lb air gun had gone. They appear to be alive and well.
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I watched in amazement at my local Kwik Fit as the kid refitted the front wheels to my old Cavalier, wound them up with the air gun until the ratchet clattered, and then applied the torque wrench.......
I haven't been back since.
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Why? The ratchet is probably set at a low torque figure and the torque wrench hopefully set at the final torque required.
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