Before I get it in the neck, I have not been caught (walking at the time).
Over the past few days I have seen the most horrific usage of the "scamera vans"
First was night time rush, darkness all around and a dark blue peugeot van with no markings sitting in a bus stop. Traffic caught up as buses were unable to get into the small laybay, hence stopping in the road. 2 operators inside with the cameras pointing through the rear windows.
This morning passed another one, this time properly livered up, but stopped at the bottom of a steep hill (to no doubt catch the people who don't gear brake going downhill) which happens due to the bend in the road, not to be visible from the top.
This road has hatched markings all down the hill, so causing the traffic to not "legally" to be able to overtake the van, as they would have to go across the hatched area. Result, traffic queued up the hill while cars stopped, then overtook one at a time, very cautiously.
Whilst I agree with the requirement and the deterrents, the backhanded way that some of these work at really gets up my nose.
Thanks.... gripe over... Feel better now :)
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It is fine for you to tell us, what about some photos, date time and place and inform the police and the scamera partnership They are only ones who will, or won't, do anything about it! We are interested, not very suprised and unable to do anything ourselves.
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One of those things that you I did not think of at the time, so no piccies, sorry.
Both in the exmouth area of east devon, both residential roads.
If you want anymore info, let me know.
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I've seen this;police stopping people immediately before a blind left hand bend.
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Not sure your first example is "horrific". Stupid and inconsiderate perhaps, especially in rush 'hour'.
Second example - cunning but not horrifc.
In terms of catching the speeding motorist, neither would be a problem to the motorist who drove within the published speed limit! ;-)
TT.
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Hatched markings not illegal to enter unless the line bordering them is unbroken.
See highway code:
109: Areas of white diagonal stripes or chevrons painted on the road. These are to separate traffic lanes or to protect traffic turning right.
* If the area is bordered by a broken white line, you should not enter the area unless it is necessary and you can see that it is safe to do so.
* If the area is marked with diagonal stripes and bordered by solid white lines, you should not enter it except in an emergency.
* If the area is marked with chevrons and bordered by solid white lines you MUST NOT enter it except in an emergency
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Must have another look at the lines..
My assumption is that the lines around the hatched area are unbroken as right turns are not hatched at all..
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If you drive down the A509 (Northampton to Milton Keynes road) just about any saturday you will find the van parked either on a long straight stretch or just over the brow of a hill in a bus layby where it is 30 through a small village. I have never seen an accident at either location, but they are never evident at the nasty road junction and double bend at the bottom of the hill further towards Northampton where accidents happen as regular as clockwork, there was one just three weeks ago in fact, and somebody was killed last year. It seem the council wont do anything about this dangerous stretch of road as it is apparently not dangerous enough - at the current rate of progress it soon will be. And they wonder why motorists are cynical about their contribution to road safety versus revenue generation. However the revenue generation muxt be impacted by the number of motorists who flash their lights by way of warning, the road is lit up like a christmas tree at times.
MGs
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The question of inconsiderate speed camera vehicles parking was strongly attacked by the Lancashire Evening Post, the Preston and county evening newspaper, about three years ago.
It published photographs of the vehicles and the problems created both for traffic and pedestrians during a thorough investigation and eventually Lancashire Police had to concede it was in the wrong.
Done a bit of Googling and found details:
www.lep.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=73&Artic...2
www.lep.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=73&Artic...7
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Discovered via this link, also of interest:
www.abd.org.uk/talivan.htm
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I went past one today that was mostly concealed by another vehicle. There was no way anyone could have know it was a speed camera unit, until they actually passed it. I was warned about it by the chap who was in the car with me. It was also just around a bend.
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The best place to catch the vehicles equipped with speed camera detectors, so they can drive at illegal speeds....
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"First was night time rush, darkness all around"
Do Van type speed cameras work in the dark ?
I understand the flashing ones might, but the ones in the vans don't flash, do they ?
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I assume that they work on infrared technology. The same as SPECS, Truvelo & stinger (i think that's what they are called) cameras
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This is on a similar subject.
I saw a police van illegally parked on double yellow lines & too close to a junction in the centre on my town, the driver was changing the film in the nearby speed camera.
I wrote to the chief constable (anonymously) quoting the 2 sections of the highway code that the van was in breach of. A police vehicle illegally parking in response to an emergency is acceptable but parking illegally for a routine call to service a speed camera isn't.
I have since seen a similar van parked legally in a parking space with the driver changing the film in the speed camera, a result.
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If a member of the public, with no rancour, can see the danger then it speaks little of the driver/operator of the van be they Plod or civilian.
Write to the Chief Constable with your complaint Picnic.
dvd
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Just remembered that, in the resort where I live, a Speedwatch scheme was launched 13 months ago which involved volunteers monitoring speeding on certain roads.
The volunteers were equipped with hi-tech speedguns to check vehicle speeds and note any whose drivers were exceeding the speed limit.
Although these volunteers are not legally allowed to fine or prosecute drivers, offending motorists received warning letters advising that their indiscretion had been recorded.
It was reported a while back that this "softer" method of influencing driving behaviour often worked just as well as speed cameras and prosecutions.
However, last week the Chief Constable put the Speedwatch scheme on hold after questions had been raised about its legality and the "legal position of volunteers" - the local MP described the move as "completely baffling" as it have proved one way of reducing the problem of speeding motorists in the resort.
Apparently Greater Manchester Police has a similar scheme which is well supported and promoted in its area.
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This is one link about the suspension of the Speedwatch scheme:
tinyurl.com/yhqt8n
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