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Fri 17 Nov 2006 12:47
london low emission zone proposed - Dalglish
proposed new zone

your comments invited at

www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/low-emission-zone/

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Low Emission Zone
To improve air quality in London - which is currently among the worst in Europe - the Mayor and TfL are proposing to designate Greater London as a Low Emission Zone. The objectives of the proposed Low Emission Zone are two-fold: .... "

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Fri 17 Nov 2006 13:18
london low emission zone proposed - Phil I
Thanks for posting that link Dalglish. A saner view of what would seem to me to be an admirable approach to the promotion of breathable air in towns. Maybe the leaflet that the other posters appear to have received through their letter boxes actually refers to cars. What appears on the website refers only to hgv/buses/vans and in view of the recurring posts on the subject of smokey PSV/Vans etc would have thought three cheers would have been the correct response rather than Mad Ken Again.


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Fri 17 Nov 2006 17:39
london low emission zone proposed - Dalglish
Maybe the leaflet that the other posters appear to have received through their letter boxes actually refers to cars.

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i take it you are referring to this whingeing/moaning thread :
www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?f=2&t=46...7

instead of the usual negative bleating, it would do harm to those complaining to use this facility:

www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/low-emission-zone/consultation....p

at least they will then have had a chance to register their protests officially, even if these are ignored in the end.

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Fri 17 Nov 2006 20:10
london low emission zone proposed - nortones2
I find that walking overcomes most of the traffic calming measures. Try it:)
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Fri 17 Nov 2006 20:45
london low emission zone proposed - cheddar
Problem is that the emissions in London from the Priuses etc will be no lower than a Focus TDCi or D4D Corolla though the emissions from manufacture of the hybrids will be 50% more than an equivalent TD (not to mention the disposal) so at best all you are doing is taking a small problem from London and making a bigger one elsewhere in the world.

NIMBYist, yes!

Environmentally positive no!
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Sat 18 Nov 2006 00:52
london low emission zone proposed - Stuartli
I do notice that there is no mention, apart from vehicles, about causes of pollution.....
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Mon 20 Nov 2006 12:37
london low emission zone proposed - KMO
NOx and particulates are the main concern for urban pollution, and a quick check of the VCA database shows the Prius as being a factor of twenty (20) times less polluting for NOx than either the Focus or Corolla. And not being a diesel, knocks out the particulate problem. The Focus doesn't even meet Euro IV...
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Sat 18 Nov 2006 09:25
london low emission zone proposed - bignick
Dont know why they dont go the whole hog and pedestrianise the place - and watch it die like many other town centres as businesses flee to the out of town retail parks.
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Mon 20 Nov 2006 12:54
london low emission zone proposed - 659FBE
Does the purchaser of a Toyota Prius suffer from Priapism? You might want to check the details of this affliction.

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Mon 20 Nov 2006 13:26
london low emission zone proposed - No FM2R
1) Ban all private cars or prevent them by taxing them out of the Capital
2) Ban all heavy polluting delivery/maintenance/works vehicles
3) Build large, fee, safe and secure car parks outside London
4) Subsidise taxis, clean up the tube, build better buses

Nothing wrong with that, I might even support it.

The difficulty is the amount of politicians that only target 1) and the general idiotic behaviour of the electorate that encourage them to behave in that way.
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