Computer Related Questions - Volume 107 - Dynamic Dave
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Internet Explorer IE7 - L'escargot
Windows Updates tells me that IE7 is available. Is it worth it, and how do I find out what level I have currently?
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Internet Explorer IE7 - Dynamic Dave
how do I find out what level I have currently?


Click on 'Help - about internet explorer' to find out which version you're currently running.
Internet Explorer IE7 - madf
You can download it from Microft: do a search.
I installed it and after 3 days uninstalled.
I run Real time systems and had odd failures with Flash and Java. so gave up.
It may be ok for general browsing but I found it slower than IE6. (I have lots of antispyware on my machine and it would appear there may have been conflicts not there on IE6)

I was underwhelmed as I found the tabbing system was very good... BUT took ages to open some pages...

It's still in beta test mode... wait till Microsoft get in right in 2007..
madf
Internet Explorer IE7 - L'escargot
Thanks guys. I hope I don't get it by virtue of my Automatic Updates setting.
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Internet Explorer IE7 - Dalglish
Thanks guys. I hope I don't get it by virtue of my Automatic Updates setting.

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lescargot - you should not be put off it due just a few negative replies here. in any case, your dial-up may probably take ages to download the automatic update, so you need not worry ! :: ;-) ::

or, how about giving firefox-2 a try, as it is so highly favoured by the geeks on this thread?

Internet Explorer IE7 - Stuartli
>>It's still in beta test mode>>

Not true.

IE7 is now in its final form and is being distributed, if you haven't already downloaded it from Microsoft's website, through the WindowsUpdate service on your system.

If you don't wish to download it, set WindowsUpdate to "Notify mr about downloads but don't automatically download or install".

If and when the icon appears in the Notification tray, click on it and select Custom. You can then choose whether to accept or reject IE7 or any other updates that may be listed at any time.
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Internet Explorer IE7 - Stuartli
PS

IE7 now adds many of the features we take for granted in Firefox...:-)
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Internet Explorer IE7 - L'escargot
If you don't wish to download it, set WindowsUpdate to "Notify
mr about downloads but don't automatically download or install".


Thanks Stuartli, that's what I've now done. I realise it would take nearly an hour to download with my current dialup so I'll wait until I've got broadband (ordered this morning online) and then I'll reset Windows Update to automatic.
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Windows 98 on a new computer - tyro
I've got computer problems, which I'll not go into, since it looks to me like computer is dead.

I want to have a computer running Windows 98 (I already have two running XP).

I could buy a 2nd hand machine (ebay) which is running 98, or I could get a brand new machine and install Win 98 on it, (or get someone else to, since I'm a technophobe!)

However, someone told me that installing Windows 98 on a machine with a 80 gig hard drive was problematical.

Is this true?
Windows 98 on a new computer - glowplug
The problem with 98 is that it uses FAT32 file system and so as the HD gets larger so does the sector size thus it can be very wasteful if storing lots of small files. In which case a couple of partitions would make more sense. Also be aware that some hardware may not have any 98 drivers so check first to be sure.
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Buy a Citroen and get to know the local GSF staff better...
Windows 98 on a new computer - Stuartli
If you are going to do this, the best thing would be to install Windows 98SE and then add the Unofficial Service Pack (a labour of love by the author), which updates 98SE right up to the time that Microsoft ended support for the operating system. See:

exuberant.ms11.net/98sesp.html
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Windows 98 on a new computer - tyro
Thanks

I gather then that it is possible to install 98 on a big hard drive.

Glowplug, partioning drives is all a bit high-tech for me. I doubt that I'd be able to do it, and even if someone else did it for me, I'd not want go down that route unless I was absolutely convinced.

Stuartli, thanks for the tip. I take it that is something that would apply to anyone operating 98SE, not just someone installing 98SE on a big hard drive?

By the way, what would be a good source of an inexpensive, reliable, new computer without an operating system already loaded?
Windows 98 on a new computer - Stuartli
>>I take it that is something that would apply to anyone operating 98SE>>

Yes.
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Windows 98 on a new computer - Stuartli
>>By the way, what would be a good source of an inexpensive, reliable, new computer without an operating system already loaded?>>

Novatech has established an excellent reputation for supplying a wide range of systems at excellent prices.

www.novatech.co.uk

If you already have some of the hardware needed, such as a monitor, its barebones systems might be of interest.

PS

There is Windows 98 and Windows 98SE (Second Edition)...:-)
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IPod Problems - Dynamic Dave
Colleague of mine has just bought an IPod for his g/f. He already has an IPod of his own and they both share the same computer. From what he was telling me, each IPod has its own software and needs installing separately as the software for his IPod won't work for her IPod and vice versa. Although each of them has their own log in configured on WinXP, when the software was installed for the g/f's IPod when logged in as her username, it's caused conflicts and upset his own IPod software.

Is it possible to have more than one IPod associated with one PC?
IPod Problems - Citroënian {P}
Pretty sure that SWMBO'd Nano works with the same library (iTunes) as my 5G Video.

I'd have to check but I think that it works.


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IPod Problems - glowplug
Could it be something to do with DRM on the songs that's the problem? Can't comment from experience as I don't own an iPod but I would think the DRM will stop file sharing where the songs are DRM enabled. Is that what you mean?
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Buy a Citroen and get to know the local GSF staff better...
Word 6 on Windows for Workgroups!!!! - pmh
Over lunch today my host asked me if I could sort out a minor problem for them. The Top Bar with File- Edit-....etc had disaappeared from Word. i made the mistake of looking at it.

The machine was a 33MHz CPU running Word 6 under Windows for Workgroups! It ran remarkably quickly benefitting from 192M of Ram and did everything they required from a 2nd machine with a remakably good but old laser printer.

However the Top bar had disappeared , no installation disc(s) were available ( I have a feeling it probably only had a floppy drive anyway). You could get the dropdown menus to appear by taking the mouse to the top frame edge, but it required working from memory! The bar has obviously been reduced to zero? width (height).

The other toolbars with pushbuttons are OK and can be moved relocated etc.
The CRT display is not overscanning for height etc.

Anybody with a good memory and suggestions please?





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Word 6 on Windows for Workgroups!!!! - The Incredible Drunk
"Have you tried switching your computer off, then on again?"
Word 6 on Windows for Workgroups!!!! - pmh
Yes
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Word 6 on Windows for Workgroups!!!! - rtj70
I think you could switch Word 6 to fullscreen. From what you describe that's what has happened - the menus would still drop down although no menu or icon bar.

Now there used to be a button/icon to exit fullscreen - was anything visible say on the top right hand corner of the screen? This was on a special full screen toolbar which might have been turned off or even toolbar moved off screen.

Easy fix is to kit the ESC key :-) Works in Word 2003 to exit fullscreen too.
Word 6 on Windows for Workgroups!!!! - psi
dunno much about a set up of that vintage (my first 386 could only dream of running office 6!). did that version support macros? try creating a macro like
sub bleh()
commandbars("standard").visible = true
end sub
or file the entire system under "b" and buy something a little less archaic!! like babbage's analytical engine perhaps!
Word 6 on Windows for Workgroups!!!! - rtj70
Very helpful macro that. ESC key ought to work but a better macro might be:

Sub ShowFullscreen()
ActiveWindow.View.fullscreen = True
With CommandBars("full screen")
.Visible = True
.Position = msoBarBottom
End With
End Sub

You could run Word 6 on a 386 because since 32bit mode on the 386 nothing has changed in a macro-architecture way. With enough memory that is... But when AMD bought nexgen it changed everything and we got the excellent Athlon and subsequent Athlon 64's and now Intel processors (based on Intel Israel designs for the Yonah/Dothan etc). Off topic I know.

But a simple ESC key depress ought to fix the OP's problem :-)
Blue death screen + USB clashes - Armitage Shanks {p}
Further to a query of a couple of weeks ago. I was getting blue screen crashes, probably caused by running a USB1 hub omna computer with USB 2. Buying the correct hub seems to have cured the problem. Thanks to those who posted and pointed me in the right direction!
ebay sniping - from vol 106 - madf
ebay sniping question several posts ago?

I use Auction Sentry www.auction-sentry.com/index.htm

and have done for three years. Easy to use and works wll I snipe in last 8 seconds of auction...cheap as well and good support...
madf
HJ web site crashing - rustbucket
I know this problem has been raised before, but was there a definate answer to this problem.I had to rienstal XP with explorer 6 , since the reinstal HJ web site crashes constantly.I cannot see any differences from the set up I have now and the previous installation when I had no problems at all. I have tried ie7 but still crashes -it is only HJ web site that crashes.
Any ideas please
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HJ web site crashing - L'escargot
Try disabling Shockwave Flash Object via Tools > Manage Add-ons.
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HJ web site crashing - rustbucket
Try disabling Shockwave Flash Object via Tools > Manage Add-ons.
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Thanks L\'escargot that seems to have cured the problem
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HJ web site crashing - L'escargot
Thanks L'escargot that seems to have cured the problem


Well, that's a first! In the past it's always been me asking the questions, not giving the solutions. I'm pleased to have been able to help at last.
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HJ web site crashing - Dynamic Dave
Well L'escargot, courtesy of you I have also been passing on this advice to people who have asked me the exact same thing by email.
HJ web site crashing - L'escargot
Well L'escargot, courtesy of you I have also been passing on
this advice .................


And you haven't received any complaints afterwards? Phew! It must have been beginner's luck on my part!

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HJ web site crashing - Dynamic Dave
And you haven't received any complaints afterwards?


I hope you're sitting down, because no, only replies to say that the suggestion worked.
HJ web site crashing - VR6
Well thats worked for me on IE7, but it looks like I need that particular add-on to view other websites correctly. HJ only started crashing after I installed IE7, and on ly when i switch to 'discussion' from 'Technical'

Is there another way of solving the crashing without disabling the Macromedia add-on?
Email received containing personal info - L'escargot
I've just received an email from my ISP and it contains my (existing) username and password. Was it wise of them to do that?
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Email received containing personal info - Dalglish
I've just received an email from my ISP and it contains my (existing) username and password. Was it wise of
them to do that? -- L'escargot.


i.m.o. why not? just ask yourself what that enables someone to do with your dial-up account:
1. is there access to your home such that your pc can be reached without your knowledge?
2. is your telephone (caller line id) shared with someone else?
3. is access to your pc not password protected?
4. is access to your email account not password protected?

if the answer is yes, then if an unauthorised person got hold of your details, maybe they could then access your pc, or use your line for connecting their own pc, etc.
Email received containing personal info - L'escargot
1. No
2. No
3. Not password protected
4. Not password protected

How do answers 3 and 4 affect the situation? Nobody else uses my computer ~ unless a burglar got to it.
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Email received containing personal info - Phil I
I would advise using password protection even if no one else uses your computer (as far as you know!!!).
No need for encrypted 37 character pwd just 8 character (letters and nrs. with shift key change somewhere in the row will do ).

Phil I
Email received containing personal info - L'escargot
I would advise using password protection


The next question is "How do I set that up?" But just remember I'm only partially computer literate!
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Email received containing personal info - Phil I
>How do I set that up?

Assuming you are running XP Sequence is:-

Start -ControlPanel-User Accounts-Useraccount name -Create Password. Should do the trick. Same for W98SE.

Think of six letter two syllable word, prefix with a number ,Capitalise first letter of first and second syllable finish witth another number so:
2BluMoo3 or even 9EscArg4

Hth Phil I
Email received containing personal info - No FM2R
>>I would advise using password protection even if no one else uses your computer

Why ? [genuine interest].
Email received containing personal info - Phil I
Mark wrote Why?

Visitors are the hazard which you need to aware of. Nieces + nephews + open keyboard spells trouble .

Phil I
Email received containing personal info - Dalglish
.. How do answers 3 and 4 affect the situation? Nobody else uses my computer ~ unless a burglar got to it


lescargot - if a burglar got to your pc, and took it away, then your worry would not be anything to do with your isp username and password. to use your internet connection, access to your telephone line is needed. even if someone else connected their own pc in your home, you should not be charged extra if your dial-up account is not metered.

so if someone gets to access your line via your pc, then the question is do you want to hide any stuff on your pc from them? and if your email account is not password protected, are you concerned about someone accessing your emails and/or sending out emails in your name from your pc ?

if you are concerned about these things, having said no to the first two questions, then either you are catering for a situation where a burglar gets hold of your pc and/or someone you don't trust is able to get around your "no" to question 1.

i.m.o. - relax. you can give out your username and password on this forum and your pc would come to no harm.

where do you stop with security? do you get all your snail-mail delivered by recorded delivery? (snail mail - pun intended, i.e. mail for lescargot delivered by the post office).

fsnet spam - 'iamjustsendingthisleter' - Dynamic Dave
Anyone else with fsnet email addresses also getting bombarded with emails to 'iamjustsendingthisleter@xxxxxx.fsnet.co.uk' (where 'xxxxxx' is the unique part of the domain email address). I have 4 totally separate 'fsnet' accounts and they are all getting spammed with the 'iamjustsendingthisleter' part before the @ part of the address. I've now set up filters on line to block them, but one of the accounts has now reached the limit of 20 filters, and the level of spam to all the fsnet accounts in general is now getting to ridiculous levels.

Amazingly the only account that has ever been used on line in forums and the like is the one getting the least amount of spam.
fsnet spam - 'iamjustsendingthisleter' - Dalglish
...Amazingly the only account that has ever been used on line in forums and the like is the one getting the
least amount of spam.


can't help with your specific query as i am not on fsnet. but you can get free orange/wanadoo/fsmail accounts at

webmailregistration.orange.co.uk/registration/add_...p

the reasons for the surge in spam that is bypassing filters is explained at
www.theregister.co.uk/2006/10/31/botnet_spam_surge/
Interfering Nephews! - drbe
How do I set up my PC to stop nephews fiddling with the settings?

I have a password set up so that no one can access my PC without my say-so, but how do I keep my administrator settings, but allow the kids to use the PC, but set it up so that they can't change anything.
Interfering Nephews! - No FM2R
Add an additional user with restricted rights. Pretty easy using the "Users" icon from Control Panel but shout if more guidance would help.
Interfering Nephews! - Baskerville
You can set up accounts with limited rights pretty easily, but you may encounter problems running certain software (especially games) on those limited accounts. I discovered a few months ago that even Microsoft's own flight sim requires an admin account.

Even with limited accounts I'd bear in mind that the person who has the box owns it--cracking passwords is a fun and not too difficult exercise for a couple of likely lads. Put it in a public place if it isn't already.
Interfering Nephews! - Stuartli
Put it in a public place if it isn't already.>>


Even better, don't let them near it...:-)

You can buy a reasonable barebones system from, for instance, BigPockets, that will probably do all they require and leave you worry free:

tinyurl.com/yh7sp2

Also monitors:

tinyurl.com/yau25x
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Cleaning a keyboard - L'escargot
What's the best technique for cleaning a keyboard? I've never had to clean one before ~ when I was at work (and before I got a PC at home) the keyboard cleaning fairies used to do it during the night.!
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Cleaning a keyboard - Altea Ego
one of the damp spectacle wipes is ideal for cleaning keytops. the crisp crumbs and hair underneath is more of an issue.

turn upside down and shake to get the big lumps out, and a vacuum cleaner with a crevice tools to suck (or better blow if you can) the crap out.
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Cleaning a keyboard - eProf
"DustOff" is magic! £10 for a big can. A blast at the keyboard and you would be amazed at the history that comes flying out! Amazingly useful for dust removal from almost anything (including getting the stale crumbs out of biscuit tins and hairs out of a film camera gate).

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Cleaning a keyboard - No FM2R
Paint brush if its dust and debris. Swap between paintbrush and shaking upside down. For cleaning the keys then screen wipes do a good job, but any gentle solvent will be fine - you don't need to use anythign strong.
New version of Mozilla Thunderbird - Stuartli
A new version of Mozilla's e-mail program Thunderbird, 1.5.0.8, is now available to those who are interested at:

www.filehippo.com/download_thunderbird/
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New version of Mozilla Thunderbird - Baskerville
I do wish you'd give the direct link.

www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/all.html
New version of Mozilla Thunderbird - Stuartli
I do wish you'd give the direct link.>>


Any particular reason?

FileHippo beats virtually all latest downloads, updates etc website - and that includes Mozilla itself on occasions...:-)
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New version of Mozilla Thunderbird - Baskerville
>> I do wish you'd give the direct link.>>
Any particular reason?


Firstly because it is a bad habit to download executables from third-party sites unless you get to them via the first party or know for sure they are safe. If you're offering the third-party download you'd better be darned sure it's the real thing.

Secondly because it's helpful for Mozilla to know the number of downloads.
New version of Mozilla Thunderbird - Stuartli
>>Firstly because it is a bad habit to download executables from third-party sites unless you get to them via the first party or know for sure they are safe. If you're offering the third-party download you'd better be darned sure it's the real thing.>>

I've been downloading from FileHippo for some years - as far as I'm aware it's connected to the producers of CCCleaner - and the number of downloads for each item is faithfully recorded. In fact the details for the top five or six downloads for the previous seven days is listed on the home page .

There's no way I would direct any member of these forums to websites that are not genuine or which may cause concern.

A simple way to check such things is to download McAffee's SiteAdvisor for your appropriate browser as necessary from:

www.siteadvisor.com/

FileHippo, as I stated earlier, has won a reputation for being first out of the blocks on many occasions...:-)
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IE7 works best with Windows Vista... - colin-e
IE7 works best with Windows Vista, as it uses the same look and feel of the new version of Windows.

I assume that Microsoft is launching IE7 now to make sure it is as bug free as possible before Vista hits the shelves - ie YOU get to find the problems, so they can sell you the new OS without them!

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IE7 works best with Windows Vista... - Baskerville
I assume that Microsoft is launching IE7 now to make sure
it is as bug free as possible


Serious bugs are still being found in IE6 five years after release, so don't hold your breath. The problem is that Microsoft has a monopoly. Its products only have to be good enough and no better. In areas where it doesn't have a monopoly, for example the X-box and once upon a time on handhelds, the products are competitive (if not always profitable). But on PCs? Not so much.

IE7 for XP is more to do with fear of Firefox and Google. MS naturally wants you to use its web services and wants you to use a browser built to its own standards, not the agreed ones.
IE7 works best with Windows Vista... - colin-e
Incidentally, Microsofts monopoly is trying to expand.

When installing RC1 version of Vista, I got a message to uninstall Norton Internet Security 2006 as its not compatible with Vista.

After completing the installation I found the reason - Microsoft is bundling it own internet security / AV software with it!




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IE7 works best with Windows Vista... - Altea Ego
Oh dear colin e you are not haveing a good corprate day are you!

It well may be true that your version of Norton is not compatible with Vista. Its a new OS and your version of Norton is not designed for it. Fair enough, the norton box states for Windows XP.

You will find however the MS is not legally entitled to specifically block other products. Indeed there are laws to state thats exactly what they cant do. The penalty for doing so is so huge it would make your eyes water. Its call anti trust legislation. Not only that they can get penalised by the US and Europe states for the same crime, They can bundle stuff yes, but not so it blocks other stuff. .


Have you checked the Symantec site for the upgrade to Norton for Vista?
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IE7 works best with Windows Vista... - Citroënian {P}
If there's any question in this thread, and I'm not sure there is, it would seem to be "why doesn't my anti-virus work with rc1?".

A number of AV providers are waiting until Vista launch to release their product - hardly worth building and releasing products to the public to work on a platform which is constantly changing, check out your release versions!

I'd wait until the launch before casting judgement, there's a way to go yet and MS have beeb butten hard enough in the euro-courts to resist any such obvious anti-trust stuff.

RC1 although the release candidate is still a beta. You put it on a machine you don't mind failing completely on you. RC2 came out for a bit but was a bit of a mess so was pulled, be careful with betas!!!



-- You know, it's not like changing toothpaste
IE7 works best with Windows Vista... - Stuartli
Symantec has stated that two features in Vista, an enhanced Windows Security Center and a feature in the 64bit version named PatchGuide, will make it harder to use third party companies' software.
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IE7 works best with Windows Vista... - Citroënian {P}
Yep, that sounds about right.

I guess you either get easy or secure, Windows has been a bit swiss cheesy the past few years
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IE7 works best with Windows Vista... - Stuartli
To be frank, after becoming just as comfortable with XP Pro as with previous versions of Windows and knowing pretty well what to expect, I think I'll stick with the Devil I know for quite a while yet - certainly Microsoft will support XP until at least the end of this decade.
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IE7 works best with Windows Vista... - Citroënian {P}
I'd say that's a good approach Stuart, early adoption is likely to bring a lot more pain than sticking with XP Pro!
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IE7 works best with Windows Vista... - Altea Ego
Never install any MS product till the first service pack has arrived. Never do an "upgrade" - always do a clean install. For non MS products never install anything until the counter has clicked over from Version1 release 0 to Version 1 release1

having said that XP (clean install) was pretty good bug wise when it first arrived. XP (upgrade) however was a different kettle of fish,


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IE7 works best with Windows Vista... - colin-e
Wise words TVM.

Personally, I think Microsoft peaked with DOS 5. Its been downhill ever since!!

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antivirus - tomandjerry56
my anti virus runs out soon was wondering if any one knows weather i bought a antivirus from a shop can i us it year after year if i was to re in stall the antivirus after the first year
antivirus - Stuartli
Avast! does everything expected of an Anti-Virus for normal use, is freeware and updates itself automatically whilst you are online if it is necessary, informing you it has done so both verbally and visually. See:

www.avast.com

If you use it (Home Edition) and extend the initial 60 day registration period to 14 months or so (can be renewed again if necessary), make sure you indicate that it is for home use.
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antivirus - SpamCan61 {P}
What computer and software is this? I'd change to avast or AVG, it's just that removing the McAfee anti virus installed on same Dells can be a right pain in the bum. Whatevr you chnage to make sure you check for updated virus definitions daily.
antivirus - Dynamic Dave
I'd change to avast or AVG,


Re: AGV. I got a message last night from my AVG that the free version was ceasing in Jan 2007.
antivirus - Stuartli
>>Whatevr you chnage to make sure you check for updated virus definitions daily.>>

I've already pointed out that Avast! updates itself automatically...:-)

AVG will still be free after January 15, but you will have to install Version 7.5 as Version 7.1 will NOT be supported after that date i.e. there will be no updates.

Grisoft has taken this course on previous occasions and it is merely advising users of AVG whether free or professional versions.
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antivirus - Dynamic Dave
AVG will still be free after January 15, but you will have to install Version 7.5 ....


The link provided didn't work last night - it just opened a blank page, but tonight the link directed me to this info. Guess everyone else was frantically clicking on the link and subsequently overloaded things at AGV's end.
I've been meddling ........ - L'escargot
I've been meddling and I've inadvertently deleted Microsoft Works Spreadsheet from the list in All Programs > Microsoft Works. How do I get it back? I still have an icon on the desktop and in the Start list.
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I've been meddling ........ - Stuartli
Right click on the Start button>Properties>Start menu tab>Customise>Add/Remove programs etc panel.fill in details.
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I've been meddling ........ - Stuartli
Just read your query again - go to your Documents and Settings>Start Menu>Programs and add it from there...:-)

PS

If you right click on the Programs listing>Sort by Name and click they will be listed alphabetically (if you are not aware of this tip). It also applies to Bookmarks and most other listings in MS products as well as Firefox.
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I've been meddling ........ - L'escargot
Just read your query again - go to your Documents and
Settings>Start Menu>Programs .........


I got that far and was then baffled. I think that what I did originally was to drag the programme from the Microsoft Works list onto the desktop. I don't seem to be able to reverse the process.
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I've been meddling ........ - bell boy
have you looked in your recycle bin?
I've been meddling ........ - L'escargot
have you looked in your recycle bin?


Yup, and it's not there.
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I've been meddling ........ - Dalglish
Yup, and it's not there.- L'escargot.


ok. try this:

find or create a "microsoft works" shortcut ( usually by finding the relevant file in windows explorer and then right clicking on it and choosing create shortcut).
then (depending on what your xp version is or looks like) copy & paste it in either one or all of the following folder locations:
(note backslases have been replaced by forward slashes below)
C:/Documents and Settings
1. /All Users/Start Menu/Programs
2. /Defaultl User/Start Menu/Programs
3. /Adminitrator/Start Menu/Programs
4. /xxxxxxxxx/Start Menu/Programs (xxxxx is the name of your computer - eg. it may be lescargot or snail or ferrari or whatever took your fancy when xp was installed on your computer).


p.s. the same can be achieved by choosing the classic menu option in start>control panel>taskbar>classic menu>customise>advanced etc.

I've been meddling ........ - L'escargot
Thanks Dalglish. I used .....
C:/Documents and Settings
1. /All Users/Start Menu/Programs


........... and got it into the All Programs list. I then right-clicked on it and dragged it into the Microsoft Works sub-list and clicked on "Move here". This last bit was trial and error but it worked. Thanks again. I must learn not to meddle in things I don't know much about!
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Upgrading from dial-up to broadband - L'escargot
I've just received my broadband connection pack. Do I need to wait until I have received notification that my phone line is ready before I put the installation CD into my computer, or will the changeover happen the other way round?
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Upgrading from dial-up to broadband - Chicken Vindaloo
Wait until your ISP has told you that your phone line is ready, then install the software.

Well done for taking the leap to Broadband - you will not regret it!
Upgrading from dial-up to broadband - L'escargot
Thanks Chicken Vindaloo.

The next question is .............. can I (in fact is it advisable to) install the broadband filters in advance of the phone line being made ready? I assume that if I don't tnen from the instant the line is changed over my phone(s) won't work.
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Upgrading from dial-up to broadband - Altea Ego
The next question is .............. can I (in fact is it
advisable to) install the broadband filters in advance of the phone
line being made ready?

yes you can, no problem

>>I assume that if I don't
tnen from the instant the line is changed over my
phone(s) won't work.

not strictly true

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TourVanMan TM < Ex RF >
Upgrading from dial-up to broadband - No FM2R
Like Stumpy said;

The only additional bit is that the filters do nothing unless you are actually using the data facility. So you won't get grief with your phone line until you start using the xDSL - perhaps not even then, but certainly not before. So by all means put them onin advance, btu I wouldn't worry about it.
Upgrading from dial-up to broadband - Pugugly {P}
Being an unreconstructed ignorer of instruxtions I found that the ASDL connection was available a week or so before BT actually told me it was...experiment my friend !
Upgrading from dial-up to broadband - L'escargot
Like Stumpy said;
The only additional bit is that the filters do nothing unless ...............


Thanks No FM2R, but who's Stumpy? The only Stumpy I know of was Walter Brennan in the 1959 film Rio Bravo. Hey, Dude! How do ya like them apples? ;-)
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Upgrading from dial-up to broadband - Altea Ego
Baldy thinks I am short.
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TourVanMan TM < Ex RF >
Upgrading from dial-up to broadband - steveincornwall
Similar experience to PU, broadband working in 3 days, email to tell me it was working from Wanadoo 7 days.
Steve.
Upgrading from dial-up to broadband - JH
L
you will, of course, now have to change your nom de plume! :-)
JH
Upgrading from dial-up to broadband - bell boy
L
you will, of course, now have to change your nom de
plume! :-)
JH


Oh ! it relates to downspeed on the telephone line.................
hes not slimy then ;-)
Upgrading from dial-up to broadband - L'escargot
L
you will, of course, now have to change your nom de
plume! :-)


I might change it to Les car got! Geddit? ;-)
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Upgrading from dial-up to broadband - L'escargot
Yippee!! I've now got broadband. The only two niggles I have are that I didn't get an email from my ISP telling me that my line was broadband-enabled today (I had to ring them up to ask) and the filters dangling out of the phone sockets on 50 mm leads look unsightly and a bit Heath Robinson-ish. I wouldn't have thought it would be that difficult to design a kit that would enable the filters to be incorporated into the sockets.
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Upgrading from dial-up to broadband - Dalglish
>>... a kit that would enable the filters to be incorporated into the sockets

speedy gonzales - (formerly lescargot):

you can buy them from, for example, www.solwise.co.uk/adsl_splitters.htm
Upgrading from dial-up to broadband - No FM2R
>>I wouldn't have thought it would be that difficult to design a kit that would enable the filters to be incorporated into the sockets.


It isn't and they're available.
Getting kicked out - Xileno {P}
Very strange this. Had my pc reformatted and everything loaded back on. But getting a very strange error message and sometimes get kicked right out of IE.

"The instruction at "0x77821185" referenced memory at "0x0000000". The memory could not be 'read'. Clico OK to terminate the program. Click CANCEL to debug the program.

The embarrassing thing is that it only appears to happen when I surf the HJ site. All the other sites I visit aren't a problem. I wouldn't mind if it was another site, but I can't live with my daily dose of HonestJohn.

What is going on?????
Getting kicked out - Dalglish
>>"The instruction at "0x77821185" referenced memory at "0x0000000". The memory could not be 'read'. Clico >> OK to terminate the program. Click CANCEL to debug the program. The embarrassing thing is that it only
appears to happen when I surf the HJ site.


xileno: see my reply at
www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=44311&...e
it may possibly apply in your case.

One last question before you get bored - L'escargot
One last question about broadband. Is it ever necessary to disconnect? In case it's relevant I have an ordinary 2GB monthly allowance service.
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One last question before you get bored - Stuartli
If your connection is via a USB modem then it will be disconnected when you switch off your system. You are only using bandwidth when uploading or downloading.

By the way a 2GB allowance is not "ordinary" these days, in fact unless you pay only a small amount per month it's a bit of a rip off.

Even my "free" TalkTalk broadband service has a handsome 40GB monthly allowance, whilst the previous £12.99 a month Tiscali service was unlimited providing it was not abused (i.e. excessive P2P etc type downloads especially during peak hours)...:-)
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One last question before you get bored - PhilW
"By the way a 2GB allowance is not "ordinary" these days, in fact unless you pay only a small amount per month it's a bit of a rip off."

Maybe, but for what I use the internet it is a hell of a lot more than necessary - maybe the same for L'Escargot?

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