British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - Wales Forester
I stopped behind the a British Gas Vauxhall Combo van at traffic lights today and noticed a sticker on one of the rear doors showing a red circle with black '70' lettering in the centre accompanied by wording similar to 'limited to 70mph'.

After doing a quick 'Google' search, it seems that all 3,500 light vans brought into service this year in the Centrica fleet will be fitted with these 70mph limiters.

I bet that's annoyed quite a few of their fitters, for the wrong reasons of course...
British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - frazerjp
I suppose it's just so they don't get caught speeding on the motorways & duel carriageways, or maybe it's to save fuel perhaps?
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British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - Stuartli
>>duel carriageways>>

Perhaps that's what two or more of the drivers have been up to...:-)


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British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - mk124
Good I welcom the news. Now only if they could fit a GPS system which set the speed limiter in acordance to the local speed limit........
British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - Collos25
I suppose it's just so they don't get caught speeding on the motorways & duel carriageways, or maybe it's to save fuel perhaps?
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The limit is 60 for any commercial vehicle and that includes all vans ,clearly stated in the highway code.
British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - PhilW
www.highwaycode.gov.uk/09.htm#103
70, I think, on motorways, 60 on dual carriageqways for goods vehicles less than 7.5 tonnes (and that must surely exclude 120mph Sprinters!)
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British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - Collos25
I meant the dual carriageway part sorry.
British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - cheddar
Great idea, so they can do 70 every where, past a school etc!

The thin end of the wedge, the individual need to be empowered so they are responsible when driving on the m/way AND when driving past a school where 15mph might be inappropriate.

Very dangerous move IHO.
British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - Waino
Great idea, so they can do 70 every where, past a school etc!


My old Mondy is governed (I guess) at about 120, but I don't think this affects the way I drive past schools or, for that matter, interact with the rest of humanity ;-)
British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - GregSwain
My old Mondy is governed (I guess) at about 120, but
I don't think this affects the way I drive past schools
or, for that matter, interact with the rest of humanity ;-)


Exactly - my Almera runs out of steam at 110-ish, but I've only ever driven that speed once, on a private road of course ;-) I still drive past schools accordingly, as children would make a mess of the car if you hit them at 110! Also the speed-bumps which always surround schools would result in new shock-absorbers all round.

If the truth be known, British Gas have probably only done it for cheaper insurance, much like the "How's my Driving?" stickers on lots of commercial vehicles.
British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - Waino
If the truth be known, British Gas have probably only done
it for cheaper insurance, much like the "How's my Driving?" stickers
on lots of commercial vehicles.


Perhaps they had tried 'How's my driving' stickers, and folks kept ringing in to say that they'd just seen a BG van going past at 110 ;-)
British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - No FM2R
>>Great idea, so they can do 70 every where, past a school etc!

I don't think that it means the vehicle speed is set to 70mph; I think it merely means its limited to a maximum of 70mph. I think you may be confused.
British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - cheddar
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This, and loads of other drivel that followed - removed - DD
British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - cheddar
>>; I think it merely means its limited to a
maximum of 70mph. >>


The point is that if people are empowered to take personal responsibilty in a wide range of circumstances including whether or not is is appropriate to do more than 70 on the m/way then they are more likely to make sensible decisions in other circumstances such as when driving past a school.

British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - GregSwain
Because the Vauxhall Combo is a car-derived van, under 2 tonnes, the limits are the same as for cars.

www.highwaycode.gov.uk/09.htm#103
British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - PatrickO
PR exercise.
British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - GregSwain
PR exercise.


Maybe Royal Mail should follow suit?!
British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - oldpostie
Maybe Royal Mail should follow suit?!


I understand this is to come in next year, for HGVs. My old LDV Pilot wouldn't go that fast anyway
British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - cheddar
PR exercise.


Back fired then, scuse the pun!
British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - Waino
Thanks for the link - I hadn't realised that the highway Code was available on the net.
British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - Thommo
'probably only done it for cheaper insurance'

Centrica are self insured.
British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - Sprice
I wonder if they remove the limiter before they send the vans to auction?
British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - Lud
I wonder if they remove the limiter before they send the
vans to auction?


If they don't, there will be a number of eager buyers from this forum. I will not be one of them.
British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - Lud
I am still under 70 and was going to allow British Gas to employ me as a driver whenever I felt like it to relieve anomie, boredom and so forth.

However they can whistle for it now. It's one thing to drive a vehicle that can't do 70mph, quite another to drive one with a stupid horrible speed limiter.

You've lost your chance, British Gas. Eat your heart out.
British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - Cliff Pope
I am still under 70



So the numbers displayed on posts at the side of the road are speed limits, not the maximum permitted driver age?
It seemed to make sense - no one over 30 in town centres, max 20 outside a school, no more than 70 on a motorway.

All age limits have been abolished now, so the minimum driver age of 17 is illegal. Heightism is still legal, so very small drivers have to have booster seats.
British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - Greg R
Just a question to Greg Swain (hope it isn't personal, you don't need to answer it).

Anyway, I noticed you work as a finance officer like me. Do you still work now? I always find it helpful to look at something new to get through the realms of figures I get through. Do you find this as well?

Greg
British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - GregSwain
Anyway, I noticed you work as a finance officer like me


Finance officer? Well that's news to me! Last time I looked I was a university student studying radiography.....not quite sure what your question's inferring either.
British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - Stuartli
Last time I looked I was a university student studying radiography...>>


My other half used to be Deputy Superintendent Radiographer for the town's local hospitals.

It's an even more fascinating job these days with the superb modern equipment available - good luck for your future.
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British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - Vin {P}
The limiter obviously wasn't affecting the cretin who drove a British Gas van down my road at about 50mph today.

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British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - Dynamic Dave
The limiter obviously wasn't affecting the cretin who drove a British Gas van down my road at about 50mph today.


Could that be because the limiter doesn't actually limit until 70mph? Just a thought.
British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - Adam {P}
I think he was pointing out how useless the limiters are in this case.

Just a thought.

;-)
British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - BobbyG
I have never driven a vehicle with a limiter, apart from the car's own top speed. However I think I would be a bit uncomfortable with a 70mph limiter. Does this mean in reality it is 65mph or so? So you might be going along the motorway, able to go faster than the lorries, but not as fast as the overtaking cars? I am not advocating speeding but sometimes you may need to get up to 75 or so just to make an overtaking manoeuvre safe and quick?
British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - Wales Forester
Just wait until you've got a couple of these vans on the motorway and one is trying to edge past his mate whilst going 0.01mph faster, hang on a minute, I'm getting a bit of LGV deja vu ;-)
British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - Lud
There was a time when hire car companies used to stick a restrictor plate in the inlet tract to prevent punters from melting the engine, easier to do then than now in ordinary road conditions.

I drove one or two of these things and they were truly among the most disgusting motors I've ever driven, and that's saying something (although I've been driven in even worse ones actually).
British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - none
I noted yet another mention of 120mph Sprinter vans in this thread. It might be worth pointing out that this speed is theoretical. I drove a Transit Luton the other day, and a quick calculation showed that at maximum revs in top gear, I would doing exactly 120mph. The reality is that 70 - 80mph is a realistic top speed. No way is 120mph attainable in either a standard sprinter, or a Tranny van.
British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - wemyss
I think its been reported before that the Sprinter has been governed down somwhat by Mercedes in the last year or so.
I have certainly been overtaken by them when I'm doing an indicated 90mph as if I was standing still so they must have been well over 100mph.
British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - PhilW
"yet another mention of 120mph Sprinter vans "

I think that most people relised that I said this in jest.
As for your claim of a max of 70-80 max for a Sprinter, I suggest that you drive at 80 mph on the motorway and see how many go past you.
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British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - Altea Ego
Well I WAS doing 100 mph on a dutch motorway and i got PASSED by a sprinter.
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British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - mss1tw
Sprinters are stupidly quick, for vans.
British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - none
Sorry, bit of a misunderstanding here. I meant that a Transit 120 Luton, although geared to reach 120mph, won't do much more than 70 - 80mph.
The Sprinters vans are similarly geared, and I dare say that the larger engined ones probably do over an indicated 100mph.
I've driven a 160bhp VW LT van and that had lots of power in reserve at 80mph.
Top speed is a bit pointless really, as at top speed / full throttle these sort of vehicles are probably doing about 8 or 10 mpg. and so the benefits of getting there a bit quicker are far outweighed by the extra fuel and maintenance costs.
Maybe British Gas has got it right.
British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - Lud
I love it. With the biggest turbo engine and the highest rear axle ratio, those things - I mean Mercedes Sprinters, not foul Transit Lutons which in diesel guise are hideously slow and reluctant - will wind up to an unembarrassing German motorway cruise.

One of the few honest vehicles on the road today. If they made ordinary cars like that we'd all be three weeks ahead of where we are with enormous grins on our faces.

Perhaps the Chrysler connection will mess it up.
British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - Altea Ego
VW T5 Transporter, 2.5 TDi 174PS

0-60 12.5 seconds, max speed


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British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - Altea Ego
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Max speed 117 mph!
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British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - MichaelR
My car is fitted with a speed limiter. Although its not troubled me yet.
British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - s.v.u.

the Chrysler connection will mess it up.

Chrysler have not been part of Mercedes for some years now.

British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - woodpecker

Well I think you should try driving one. I got given one of these vans as replacement for my unrestricted one. They are way more dangerous than an unrestriceted one. In my old van I had the ability to get away from traffic on duals and motorways. Now you get someone that is driving at 69miles an hour in front of me and my van is limited to 70mph when you put your foot down (the most comfitable position!). I cant get past him as I am l Iimited and he will not move out the way. What will end up happening is that I will drive so close to him to get to overtake that I will be tailgating him. Some day down the line he will have to brake and I wouldnt see him and i'll end up killing his kids in the back seat. I used to be like you that you must obey all the laws of the road, but sometimes the laws don't make any sense. It is perfectly safe at times to break the speed limit. The speed limit does save lives and I understand that but really on a motorway it is perfectly safe to do 80Mph. You can't change people. The have been trying to slow people down with speed cameras, but people still get caught and they still speed. What they should do however is the people that lose there licence and people caught drink driving should be forced to have a speed limiter to 71Mph as this would be a punishment. Don't punish the normal people that have to drive for a living!!!!!!21

British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - Collos25

I suggest you need some driving lessons and you could re read the highway code.

British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - Armstrong Sid

What will end up happening is that I will drive so close to him to get to overtake that I will be tailgating him. Some day down the line he will have to brake and I wouldnt see him and i'll end up killing his kids in the back seat

I assume this is another of those wind-ups.....five years late

Edited by Armstrong Sid on 17/02/2011 at 09:50

British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - Sofa Spud

If companies are fitting 70 mph limiters on vans now, it probably won't be long before they start fitting them to company cars as well, if they haven't started already, that is.

Personally, I've no objection to speed limiters.

British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - freddy1

well they do fit limiters to mopeds , but in reality , it takes a 16 yr old about 15 minutes with a bent screwdriver to de restrict them

British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - bathtub tom

I've driven a vehicle restricted to 70MPH and found it quite relaxing on a motorway. A bit like having cruise control, instead of driving 'feet off' you just hold the throttle on the floor.

British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - Westpig

I hope every company car gets one.....then i'll be able to surge past...;-)

British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - s.v.u.

. Some day down the line he will have to brake and I wouldnt see him and i'll end up killing his kids in the back seat. I normal people that have to drive for a living!!!!!!21

If ever proof were needed for a psychological evaluation of a persons suitability for the purpose of being granted a licence to drive a vehicle on the public highway this inane statement is it !!

British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - VanRemapper

I am a VOSA speed limiter installer, I add and remove speed limiters on all sorts, British Gas are the hardest to remove, post office are the easiest.

Either way If you have a combo van that has a limiter on, you need someone with Tech2 and access to a special website called GlobalTIS where ECU software can be uploaded to the Van to remove it.

I have Tech2 and globalTIS to do Vauxhalls, Ford Limiter tools for Transits, speed limiter tools for Caddy Vans (New breed of British gas) and VW transporters, Renaults, Merc's, some Fiat. Email me if you need help. info@advancedtuning.co.uk

British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - daveyK_UK

speed limiters at 70mph are dangerous on the motorway.

you site behind a car doing 66 in the middle lane for a while, there is nothing behind so you go to over take him.

He gets annoyed a van is overtaking him and speeds up to 70.

You are now stuck in the outside lane, the guy in the middle lane doing 70 mph has someone behind him, you have a growing trail of cars behind you, and road rage ensures.

70mph should really be at 73mph.

70mph is dangerous.

British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - davmal
Indicate left, to make your intention known. When it is safe to do so, move left. Simples.
British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - Sofa Spud

I simply don't buy that a 70 mph limiter is dangerous, as long as the vehicle's driver is aware that one is fitted. Heavy goods vehicles have had 56 mph limiters for years, coaches have had 65 mph limiters for years. It's not the limiters that are dangeorus, it's the tailgating idiots behind who feel they have the right to intimidate law-abiding drivers to break the speed limit that are dangerous.

British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - unthrottled

I would take the limiters off HGVs as well. They don't use them in the US. Let the owner/operators decide what blend of speed/fuel consumption they want.

British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - daveyK_UK

IF YOU CAN TRUST SOMEONE ENOUGH TO DRIVE, YOU SHOULD TRUST THEM TO DO THE APPROPRIATE SPEED LIMIT FOR THE CONDITIONS.

SORRY FOR THE CAPS - THE KEY IS STUCK

British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - unthrottled

THAT'S ALL RIGHT!!

British Gas Vans 70mph limiter - davmal
Just because the Americans do it doesn't lend it any credibility or merit. They have more than their fair share of bad ideas.