Richard Hammond in serious crash - Kevin

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News just coming through that The Hamster (Richard Hammond) is in a critical condition in hospital after crashing at 280mph today.

Kevin...


{PeterPerfect, mentions the following link further down in this thread, but it also deserves a mention here as well - DD}

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Richard Hammond - cheddar
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/north_yorkshire/536567...m
Richard Hammond - Altea Ego
Top Gear presenter hurt in crash

The presenter was reportedly testing a jet-powered car
Top Gear presenter Richard Hammond is in a critical condition in hospital after a crash in a jet-powered car while filming for the programme.
The presenter, 36, was taken by air ambulance to a Leeds hospital which has a special neurological unit.

A North Yorkshire Ambulance Service spokesman said he was unconscious when they got to the scene but was regaining consciousness at the hospital.

A BBC spokesman confirmed the presenter had been injured during a shoot.



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Richard Hammond - AlastairW
Per BBC testing a jet powered car. My thoughts are obviously with his family, and hope he pulls through.
Richard Hammond - Robin Reliant
Fingers X'd for the bloke. He seems an all round decent type of guy and is a very entertaining presenter.
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Richard Hammond - PhilW
Fingers crossed

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Richard Hammond - component part
Wikipedia has more details...unverified of course:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Hammond

He was severely injured in a car crash while filming for Top Gear on September 20, 2006 at an airfield near York. He was driving a jet powered car travelling at 280mph in an attempt to break the land speed record for England. He is being treated at Leeds General Infirmary and is currently in a critical condition.

Wikipedia is great, but you have to be careful. Some ass clown has already edited the first line of Hammond's entry saying he is dead...
Richard Hammond - component part
More from Sky News website:

Richard Hammond, one of the presenters of TV's Top Gear programme, is reportedly in critical condition following a car crash.

Mr Hammond was hurt while filming an edition of the show and taken to Leeds General Infirmary.

He was reportedly trying to set a new land speed record for England in a jet-powered Vampire car when it overturned.

Mr Hammond was said to have been reaching speeds of up to 280mph as the accident happened.

Firefighter Dave Ogden, who witnessed the crash, told Sky News that the 36-year-old presenter was able to speak as he was taken out of the wreckage of the car.

Inspector Mike Thompson, of North Yorkshire Police, said officers were dealing with the incident at the airfield northeast of York where the filming was taking place.

He said: "At 5.45pm this evening we received a report via the fire service of a male person trapped in what was described as an overturned jet car which had been driven on the airfield.

"The male occupant has received serious injuries and has been airlifted to hospital at Leeds."

A spokeswoman for the BBC, which produces Top Gear, said: "The incident happened quite recently and the focus of our attention is on Richard at this stage."

Mr Hammond, who lives near Cheltenham with his wife Amanda and their two daughters, has also presented Sky's Brainiac and shows including Time Commanders and Petrolheads.

Searched on't web for the car...could this be it?

www.thule.co.uk/partners/blsr.asp

Vampire is driven by Colin Fallows and weighs 2,200 lbs. The car is 30 feet long and drinks 7-10 gallons per mile of fuel. It accelerates at 0-272 in six seconds and is powered by a Rolls Royce Orpheus jet engine. The car is theoretically capable of 370mph. Colin and Vampire hold the Outright British Land Speed Record of 300.3mph.
Richard Hammond - Stuartli
I hope and pray for Richard and his young family that he comes through this OK; the vehicle he was driving is apparently capable of achieving up to 280mph and he must have been doing quite a speed.

It would appear that the airfield is Elvington - I've driven on there doing a high performance course and the runway is one of the longest in the UK at two miles.
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Richard Hammond - Chicken Vindaloo
"I hope and pray for Richard and his young family that he comes through this OK"

I second that Stuart. Shocking news.
Richard Hammond - Citroënian {P}
Well put Stuart, fully share your sentiments.
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Richard Hammond in serious crash - Chas{P}
Crash happened at Elvington airfield near York.
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Richard Hammond in serious crash - audiaudi
Me and my family love TG. The best prog around. Even my wife watches it and she has no interest in cars.
We normally record the show and watch it around 10-30 Sundays.

Me and my family have recently been saying that hammond is going to get seriously injured or killed soon making the show - or kill someone else.

Remeber the fourwheel drive race against a speed baot close to the waters edge at break neck speeds?

Looks like he will pull through and me and my family hope he is well enough to return to TG.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - rtj70
At 5:20 a colleague who lives near York phoned about something else. He then mentioned his daughter worked at a York hotel where a Top Gear presenter was staying and they were doing something at this airfield. He went there yesterday for a look to see if he could see what they were doing - a day too early. Sadly within 10 minutes of the end of the call this has happened.

Lets all hope and pray he gets through this.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - Martin Devon
Everything crossed.

MD
Richard Hammond in serious crash - Honestjohn
Me too. He's such a good guy. And stayed good guy, despite the incredible pressure of work.

HJ
Richard Hammond in serious crash - Stuartli
A BBC reporter outside the hospital is currently reporting on BBC News 24 that Richard is in the neuro unit and that he is still in a critical condition.
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Richard Hammond in serious crash - Hugo {P}
Hang on in there Richard

Hugo
Richard Hammond in serious crash - mfarrow
Such a tragicday for everyone involved. I do hope he pulls through OK.

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Richard Hammond in serious crash - Sofa Spud
Just hoping he recovers.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - rtj70
I'm starting to feel angry about Top Gear getting him into this situation. The usual "drivers" of these jet cars (if it is one of these he was driving) are ex-RAF. One of them was on the short list for driving Thrust SSC. And one of them has the British record at about 300mph set at Elvington.... so why did Top Gear even try doing this? see www.thule.co.uk/partners/blsr.asp

Then again his race in the Porsche Cayenne against a sky diver was pretty dangerous with him putting himself in extreme danger.

I still pray that he gets through this.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - Altea Ego
I agree. They have been pushing things nearer and nearer the mark. It has to be said that Richard Hammond is not a naturaly skilled, trained or experienced high speed driver
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Richard Hammond in serious crash - Robin Reliant
A bit early to be looking for someone to blame. According to Quentin Wilson the BBC make sure that such events are accompanied by any number of safety experts to minimise the risk as much as possible. RH is an experienced motoring journalist, and I doubt he would need much persuading to drive a car like that.

We should be more worried about his well being at this moment.
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Richard Hammond in serious crash - Stuartli
>>by any number of safety experts to minimise the risk as much as possible>>

Steve Berry, who used to work on Top Gear and other motoring programmes and who is also a keen biker, has emphasised that the BBC has very strict Health and Safety ethics tonight; this was repeated by the BBC reporter I mentioned earlier who said he had had to follow such guidelines himself on several occasions.

I realise there may have been a reason for the reporter making this point strongly but, even so, I'm sure that all safety aspects would have been very thoroughly researched before the attempt took place.

It could well have been caused by something unexpected and outside Richard's control, but this is obviously only supposition.

At this point it's academic - it's more important that he makes a full recovery.
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Richard Hammond in serious crash - rtj70
"It could well have been caused by something unexpected and outside Richard's control"

It's been very windy today... was driving at 300mph today such a good idea?
Richard Hammond in serious crash - machika
"It could well have been caused by something unexpected and outside
Richard's control"
It's been very windy today... was driving at 300mph today such
a good idea?


I would agree. High winds are bound to increase any risk and airfields are very exposed.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - rtj70
I'm not blaming anyone as I'm sure he was one of those that thought up this stunt. I said I was angry with Top Gear and he is one part of that team. I'm sure he did not need any pursuading but why has the programme gone this far from testing and showing cars?? This was not a normal car... it was theoretically capable of 370mph. Crashing a car one thing but take a look at what he was driving...

I too am concerned for him and his family.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - zm
"It has to said that Richard Hammond is not a naturally skilled, trained or experienced high speed driver"

What makes you sure of this?
Richard Hammond in serious crash - cheddar
One thinks of Steve Irwin, we all have to live our lives and some people's lives involve more risk than others. However it can all go wrong for anyone.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - school boy
Thought with him and familly, great guy. Really hope he is ok.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - Oz
Nice guy, terrible accident by all accounts so far. Hope the BBC can say more soon.
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Richard Hammond in serious crash - mss1tw
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Richard Hammond in serious crash - Stuartli
>>8< SNIP silly comment removed - DD>>

Absolutely agree.
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Richard Hammond in serious crash - PoloGirl
:(

Only earlier this afternoon my other half was taking the mickey because I wanted to buy the magazine that has the 'cross stitch Richard Hammond' free gift, when I don't even like sewing.

(Comment here removed on grounds of sensitivity because of an improvement in Richard Hammond's condition log after this post was originally made. HJ)

Can anyone really survive a crash at 280mph?
Richard Hammond in serious crash - Altea Ego
Can anyone really survive a crash at 280mph?


Alex Zanardi survived a 200mph+ crash into a solid concrete wall. Ok he has no legs, but he aint doing too badly.
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Richard Hammond in serious crash - Imagos
Alex Zanardi survived a 200mph+ crash into a solid concrete wall.
Ok he has no legs, but he aint doing too badly.

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Actually what happened occurred while Zanardi was leading a c.a.r.t. race at Lausitzring Germany in the closing laps. Zanardi was attempting to merge back onto the track after spinning off when he attempted to accelerate and spun into the path of Alex Tagliani who T -boned him.

Had the pleasure of meeting Richard Hammond briefly in 2003 at Purfleet in Essex whilst he was filming inside a red London bus of all things.

Even though it was just a brief conversation lasting just a minute or two, he came across as a genuinely nice guy.


Richard Hammond in serious crash - rtj70
Pologirl I too have the same feeling about the reporting... I hope we're wrong but there's a lot of coverage. Just now at 11pm he's the top news item :-(

But 280mph or more in one of those cars on the Thule website.... And which one was it. One was a lot lighter than the other but both capable of 370mph.

A sad night.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - Sunny22
Shocked to hear the news... Hope he pulls through...
Richard Hammond in serious crash - mss1tw
Hope he makes it, seems a genuinely nice guy.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - Round The Bend
Terrible news. My thoughts are with him and his family.
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Richard Hammond in serious crash - blue_haddock
A very good friend of mine is still in a coma after coming off his bike at the Manx GP and sustaining very serious head injuries and so i know what his family will be going through.
news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/motorbikes/503...m

Heres hoping for a full and swift recovery.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - Stuartli
Sky News has a flash line that Richard is in a stable condtiion.
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Richard Hammond in serious crash - borasport20
I hope he comes through this.

Give him your best wishes, your prayers, whatever you feel comfortable with - I just don't think this is the time to start being judgemental about the what/who/why/who for of what ever he was doing

Richard Hammond in serious crash - Robin Reliant
Good news that he is stable.

Although the news reports are emphasising that the car was capable of 280mph there have been no accurate reports as to what speed he was doing at the time of the crash, so it could have been considerably less than that.
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Richard Hammond in serious crash - rtj70
The vehicle was apparently capable of 0-270mph in 6 seconds with a theoretical top speed of 370mph. (www.thule.co.uk/partners/blsr.asp) Suppose it depends if it was Vampire or Split Second he was driving... one a lot lighter than the other and use different jet engines.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - Lud
Able to speak is good news. Not a praying man, but he's one of us.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - Dalglish
... can anyone really survive a crash at 280mph?

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i certainly hope that he does. he is a genuinely likeable man.

as to the circumstances, as i understand it, he had already achieved 300mph on hte previous run, and on this last run for today, he had reached 280mph. however, the accident apparently happened whilst he was braking, as the parachutes had been deployed. for some reason, the car then veered off the track in to the field and somersaulted a number of times before coming to a rest with upside down, and with the cockpit/rollover-bar having gouged into the ground.

Richard Hammond in serious crash - smallfish
I met him last year. In real life he is a top bloke - no pretence - exactly the happy go lucky guy you see on the telly. My thoughts are with him and his family. Hang on in there.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - Blue {P}
Awful, keeping everything crossed for him.

Blue
Richard Hammond in serious crash - lordy
Absolutely shocking news. Hope he pulls through. :0(


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Richard Hammond in serious crash - Honestjohn
This morning "serious, but stable condition".

It reminds us that no one is immortal.

Sky tells us that Health and Safery officials will be visiting the scene today.

There will obviously be repurcussions.

This could mean the end of Top Gear because there would be no point in a sanitised version.

The next series was rumoured to be the last anyway.

Prepare for a duller, even more restrictive motoring world.

HJ

Richard Hammond in serious crash - Imagos
This could mean the end of Top Gear because there would
be no point in a sanitised version.

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I doubt JC or JM would want to continue anyway if RH is unable to take part..

I think though were jumping the gun a bit here though. He aint dead yet.

He's a strong lad, he'll make a full recovery i'm sure of that. He's got the whole nation behind him.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - Big Vern
Prepare for a duller, even more restrictive motoring world.
HJ


Such a shame if that is correct.

I often wondered how they got around the nanny-ing of health and safety and insurance to do things like drive the ?convertible espace? on a public road with all its sharp edges and lack of roll over protection etc. Hammonds camper van barge (think it capsizing trapping you in the back making the tea)

Top Gear is always a breath of fresh air in this all too politically correct and restrictive nation.

Get well soon and keep up the fun.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - richy
Latest news seems to suggest he's gonna be ok. Supposing he does, and has no lasting side effects, do you lot think he'll carry on presenting top gear?
Richard Hammond in serious crash - Round The Bend
Very early to speculate whilst the poor guy is in such a serious condition but agree with HJ that future programmes will be less "John Noakes".
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Richard Hammond in serious crash - Red Baron
Health and Safety officials visiting site - just procedure I hope as this would not have taken place without signing away various rights.

Hope that TG continues. Such an event is always good for viewing figures and it may generate a fair few comments on such a programme.

It is not the first time that one of their stunts has cut it very fine (although I can't remember any at this time).

Looks like he'll make a full recovery. Excellent.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - oldgit
Dear, likeable Richard and a good (I presume) family man. Hope he pulls through OK and is able to resume a 'normal' life. My thoughts, at this moment, are with him and his family. Fingers crossed, everyone. I'm not religious and so cannot pray.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - andymc {P}
Only heard of this on this morning's news. Hope he pulls through, and also that the after-effects are not permanent. Good luck Richard.
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Richard Hammond in serious crash - PW
Good news- looks like he is getting better.

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/north_yorkshire/536642...m

Just hope it is a speedy and full recovery.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - bell boy
'Warning motor sport is dangerous'

this is the first sign the health and hold your hand should see

not right keen on what polo girl has said family members/relations might read this thread

my thoughts are with richard and his family a return to good health i hope mate.............

Richard Hammond in serious crash - nortones2
Re "I hope as this would not have taken place without signing away various rights." Contract cannot alter the application of statute law, and HSWA applies to all forms of motor sport, where there is an employment element, or where the activities of an "undertaking" could impinge on third parties, IIRC.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - Brill {P}
Hoping he makes a full recovery. It's partly beacuse of his input on the programme that my kids and wife enjoy Top Gear, they certainly are not car buffs and wouldn't watch any other car/motoring show.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - stunorthants
Lets hope he makes a quick recovery. Combined with JM and JC, he makes one of the funniest and most entertaining presenting teams on TV - those guys reach many more people on many more levels than any of those other motoring shows.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - Group B
At least we can be assured he's in very good hands at Leeds General Infirmary. My sister in law had a massive brain haemorrhage six weeks ago, she left the Leeds General Neuro ICU four weeks ago, she is now walking and talking again and has been moved to a rehabilitaion hospital. Best wishes to Hammond for a speedy recovery.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - Adam {P}
Just to echo some of the sentiments mentioned here. Sorry I'm a bit late to the thread.

Seems like a top bloke - I watched one of his programmes on Sky the other week where he blows things up and he had the same style proving it's him and not just the script.

Thoughts and prayers with him and his family although fortunately it's looking he's going to pull through.

Adam
Richard Hammond in serious crash - PatriciaX
This is just awful - he's such a great presenter and always comes over as very genuine, enthusiastic and ... dare I say - an all round gorgeous bloke!!! I admit it, Im a bit of a fan-girl of Richard Hammond - he makes Top Gear so much more fun and watchable!

He's at the best place in the LGI - their intensive care providers are second to none (rest of the hospital it a bit of a state but emergency and serious treatment is spot on).

Hope he pulls through - love and throughts to him and his family
xxx


Richard Hammond in serious crash - Lud
Watching an old TG on one of the channels yesterday, a passage in which the three presenters were talking about the handling of different animals - dogs RWD, cats and elephants 4WD, hyaenas FWD - had me in fits of laughter. 'Cats can drift on a polished floor, terriers oversteer into the furniture...'

Terrific. The programme isn't all macho risk-taking by any means. Hope it survives and fights off the Health and Safety wonks...
Richard Hammond in serious crash - colin-e
Richard Hammond is genuinely one of the nicest guys in television.

Anyone who loves cars, loves TopGear. We all hope he recovers soon.


Richard Hammond in serious crash - Chicken Vindaloo
If you go to the Top Gear website www.topgear.com, you can email them with a message for Richard.

(Fair enough to include a link to a competitor in these circumstances. I know Richard will really appreciate kowing how much he is liked. A lot more than he modestly thought. HJ.)
Richard Hammond in serious crash - Big Bad Dave
What terrible news I really like that little guy. Not been near a telly for a few days, I just overheard the lads on our (Polish) car magazine talking about it. They are all shocked too. Clearly an internationally popular bloke. Hurry up and get well Richard, so many more caravans to blow up.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - pettaw
Yeah, best wishes to him for a speedy recovery and sympathies with his family. Also echo the comments that I hope this doesn't result in a sanitisation culture due to over zealous health and safety. I have always observed the highest level of health and safety precaution anyway when they do these things.

Sounds like he's in the best place,
Richard Hammond in serious crash - andymc {P}
Latest report is that he has a significant brain injury. There are many possible outcomes from this - having previously worked in assisting the rehabilitation of people recovering from brain injury, I have some idea of what the future may hold. I won't go into details as it's too early to speculate (some words deleted. HJ.). I just hope he continues to improve as quickly as possible.
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Richard Hammond in serious crash - Statistical outlier
That's very bad news, I've got everything crossed for him and hope he makes a full and rapid recovery.

Puts your own problems into perspective doesn't it?
Richard Hammond in serious crash - bradgate
The medics have said that they are 'reasonably optimistic' Richard will make a 'good recovery'.

This isn't quite the same thing as saying they are confident he will make a full recovery.

As a TG fan my thoughts, like those of all of us, are with Richard's family.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - Wales Forester
Shocked and stunned like so many folk last night, Richard comes across as such a top bloke, everything crossed here for a speedy recovery.

Not sure if this is allowed, but, Pistonheads have set up a related donations page for Yorkshire Air Ambulance which has already raised £10,500 so far today.
www.justgiving.com/PHRichardHammond?page=1

(Yes, that is very much allowed. HJ.) {Link now added to the top of this thread - DD}
Richard Hammond in serious crash - stevied
I've met the Hamster once and he was a genuinely nice bloke, full of beans and unaffected.

All the very best wishes go out to him and his family for a full recovery.

Richard Hammond in serious crash - Vansboy
Had the pleasure of spending a day in his company, while working on a Moneysaving/debt feature for his Should I Worry About... series.

Didn't take long to realize that he's geninly a friendly 'ordinary' guy, progressed through the media circus by working hard, doing his radio local stint & so on - unlike sooooo many 'celebrities'

His fame & constant hard work should CERTAINLY NOT have rewarded him in this way.

So unfair!!!!

Best wishes & good luck Richard.

VB
Richard Hammond in serious crash - bimmer-driver
Get well soon Hamster- a top bloke.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - AndyT
Always chirpy and cheery, whether he's talking cars on TG, or bikes in his column in the weekly m/cycle rag.

Hope to hear his views again soon.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - Robin Reliant
It's increadable the amount of goodwill RH has generated. His accident has been the top headline for twenty-four hours, and both JC and James May have said that every car and lorry driver they saw has given a thumbs up or a message of encouragemant.

A guy who has built up a genuine affection among the motoring public, let's hope he makes a full recovery.
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Richard Hammond in serious crash - Thommo
BBC News is saying 'serious brain injury'. (Some words removed.)

A sad day.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - rtj70
Can anyone with more knowledge comment on what a "good recovery" might be... I want the guy to make a full recovery. I know it was high speed etc. but the car should have offered protection, helmet worn, etc. Not liking the "reasonably optimistic" bit either. If all the goodwill counts lets hope he's okay long-term.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - mk124
Depending on where RH has sustained injury affects what he will be able to do and the nature of his recovery. Best case scenario is that his personality is still there for his family, and that he can at least present programs, . The worst case scenario is if he makes a full physical recovery but does not know anyone and makes himself a pain in the back side since he's fogoten how to behave to people.
Once damaged brains don't heal too readily, as anyone who has dealt with a stroke victim will know. However the brain can adapt more that any other part of the body and lots of stroke victims do make full a recovery.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - Leif
The Channel 4 presenter Sheena Macdonald suffered a brain injury when hit by a police car/van answering an emergency call. She spent ages recovering and is now back at work, but as I understand it, several years later, she still has problems as she gets tired more quickly then usual.

As someone indicated, wasn't he wearing a helmet?
Richard Hammond in serious crash - Kevin
>Can anyone with more knowledge comment on what a "good recovery" might be...

The quote I've seen is:

"Doctors at Leeds General Infirmary said they were "reasonably optimistic" the 36-year-old would make a good recovery."


A GP friend in our local said that this is unusual and probably a good sign.

Doctors in this situation typically refrain from making any public statement other than the standard "He is under sedation and responding well to treatment".
In his opinion, the fact that they also used the terms "reasonably optimistic" and "good recovery" seems to indicate that they are pretty confident that they understand the extent of his injuries despite it being so soon after the incident and any resultant bruising or swelling.

Personally, I hope he's right.

Kevin...

PS. I liked the rather tongue-in-cheek comment from Clarkson:

"James and I are looking forward to getting our hamster back".


Richard Hammond in serious crash - Stuartli
If anything good has come out of this terrible accident it is that Richard ended up on the grass area of Elvington - if it had been on the runway itself then the odds are that the outcome would have been very, very different.
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Richard Hammond in serious crash - Manatee
Pointless to speculate - which I am about to do - he might have been better off spinning or even flipping down the concrete for a few hundred yards. If he was well protected in the car, sudden/instant stopping would still be a major hazard - as in 'dug in to the grass'. The F1 drivers usually get away with it these days provided that they don't hit anything too solid.

Let's hope he's got away with it.

Richard Hammond in serious crash - audiaudi
'A Good sign'?

I work bwith sick people and people that have had head injuries.

From the info received via media, ino, Richard will make a slightly better recovery than the boxer(M Watson?) that was brain damaged in a match with the guy that is a charachter, has a kind of slurred speech and dresses like a true gent. (sorry his name escapes me)


IMO, RH will have speech, mobility and co-ordination difficulties, but importantly will be able to look after himself and recognise family and friends.

The very good signs are that he is recognising people so early on, is a truely good sign. IMO, the swelling to the brain has stopped and on the retreat, another very good sign.

I hope I'm wrong re prognosis and see RH back on Top Gear!
Richard Hammond in serious crash - hcm
Perhaps I don't get forums.

But why does anyone think, that anyone else cares, whether they think that person x will recover 'slightly better' than person y knowing nothing about the case in question?

Richard Hammond in serious crash - mk124
But why does anyone think, that anyone else cares,


Because we share some feelings towards other human beings?


>>whether they think that person x will recover 'slightly better' than person y knowing nothing about the case in question?

Because we like to speculate, even without knowing anything about what goes on in reality. If we only talked about things we were experts on, it would be a very lonely and boring forum.



If I had a high speed crash I personaly would like it to be on smooth tarmac, not lumpy grass. There is adramatic video a car going 250mph+ crashing on salt flats. In the 1960's Craig breedlove and Art Arfons (of the green monster) were locked in a tense contest over the world land speed record. In the end the green monster crashed at about 400mph after some wheel bearings stopped working. Incredably Art survived and this may be due in no small part in having a flat, hard surface to crash on to.
The number of cars that have come to grief after sliding on grass, hitting a rut and digging into the ground with their wheels and then flipping is overwhelming. My hypothesis is therefore grass=bad.




Richard Hammond in serious crash - Honestjohn
An argument between Dox, Stuartli, rtj70 and audiaudi has been removed from this thread as inappropriate. It is difficult to draw the line as what is and what isn't but the moderators {edit by DD} and I are making the decisions and will accept no comment or agument on them.

HJ
Richard Hammond in serious crash - Statistical outlier
I got almost all the way through the justgiving page that Smokie highlighted before something occured to me.

Yorkshire Air Ambulance are doing very well out of this tragic event, which is great, something good should come out of it. But there are voluntary Air Ambulance units all over the country that need money. So, rather than have Yorkshire have a huge bonanza and them get nothing, I'm going to donate on Richard's behalf to my local air ambulance. That way, the benefit will be spread out a bit rather than going to just one place.

Fingers crossed that the news continues to improve.

Gord.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - Statistical outlier
Gah, I meant that PeterPerfect mentioned. Sorry Peter.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - rtj70
BBC quotes JC as saying Richard Hammond smiled when he criticised his driving. And only visible injury is a black eye.

Gordon M... good point on the air ambulance. The original target was £12k and they've raised that to £25k and actually got over £28k donated.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - local yokel
Would it be in order to post donation links to all the UK's air ambulances? As has been said, Yorkshire have benefitted from the publicity associated with RH's trip with them, but there are AAs all over the UK providing the same service to us ordinary people.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - BobbyG
On the same topic but slightly deviating, is it not the case that Top Gear is filmed by a separate company that JC owns and then sells to the BBC? In which case why are the BBC being involved in the investigations etc, surely it should be JC's production company?
Richard Hammond in serious crash - smokie
"Would it be in order to post donation links to all the UK's air ambulances? As has been said, Yorkshire have benefitted from the publicity associated with RH's trip with them, but there are AAs all over the UK providing the same service to us ordinary people."

I've been an active supporter of the Thames Valley Air Ambulance in the past (doing more than just donating) and would encourage people to support them. However a list of links isn't appropriate to this thread, and anyone who wishes to donate to their local one wouldn't have too much trouble finding details on t'internet.

smokie, BR Moderator
Richard Hammond in serious crash - rtj70
It's terrible that air ambulances are charities. Don't want to get off topic for this thread. But they are so important I hope people do donate to the others.... someone you know might need one of them someday.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - Statistical outlier
I'll put up a link to my local one as soon as I've figured out who it is (assuming HJ is okay with that?). Watch this space later on...
Richard Hammond in serious crash - cheddar
Here is a link to Dorset and Somerset air ambulance that gives way to donate that probably apply to all air ambulance operations:

www.dorsetandsomersetairambulance.co.uk/Helping-an...x


Also justgiving is an easy way to give to any of over 1600 charities, there are many air ambulance operations listed.

www.justgiving.com/
Richard Hammond in serious crash - cheddar
Also justgiving is an easy way to give to any of
over 1600 charities, there are many air ambulance operations listed.
www.justgiving.com/


To clarify the justgiving link at the top of this thread relates to Yorkshire air ambulance however justgiving can be used to donate to many other air ambulance services.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - Honestjohn
BBC News 24 red button has an interview with some wimp-voiced hoodie attempting to apply a frontal lobotomy to Top Gear and stating Richard Hammond should never have been allowed in the cockpit. Unfortunately, after saying that it takes months of training to prepare for driving a vehicle like the Vampyre, and mentioning "professional" dragster drivers he professed to not knowing anything about dragster driving. He even implied that if there had been a problem with the car at 300mph "a professional dragster driver" would have been capable of dealing with it, then immediately contradicted himself. Why does anyone give credence to people like him? Fortunately they balanced it with an excellent interview with Quentin Willson who said all the right things brilliantly.

PLEASE SHIFT DISCUSSION OF THIS ASPECT TO THE OTHER DEDICATED THREAD.

HJ
Richard Hammond in serious crash - Robin Reliant
News has just been announced that Richard Hammond is now out of intensive care.
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Robin Reliant, formerly known as Tom Shaw
Richard Hammond in serious crash - Honestjohn
Huge relief.

HJ
Richard Hammond in serious crash - stevied
Where's it announced RR?

It's not on the Beeb website yet.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - Robin Reliant
Announcement was on Sky News.
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Robin Reliant, formerly known as Tom Shaw
Richard Hammond in serious crash - Chicken Vindaloo
"It's not on the Beeb website yet."

Just checked - it is now. Very good news indeed.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - stevied
It is indeed.

Whatever the outcome, and I hope it's a full recovery, you've got to say he's as tough as old boots! From a fellow shortie, respect to Mr Hammond.

BTW, Gordon's comment about air ambulances was fantastic. My nearest is North Staffs, and I am going to drum up some support.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - Statistical outlier
As we've been requested not to fill this thread with links to air ambulance units, does anyone that finds the link to their local unit want to email me and I'll put a page up on my site with the links on it?

As long as the moderators don't mind, I'll do this and ask them to add the address to this post. I'll put my email address in my profile now.

Gord.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - cheddar
Gordon,

Anyone can link to and donate to their own local air ambulance service via the justgiving link I posted a few posts up this thread.

Regards.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - Statistical outlier
True for some, but not all. My local one, for example, isn't on there.

Was just an idea anyway, probably right we should just leave those who want to donate to find their own way..
Richard Hammond in serious crash - The Lawman
I hope that as soon as RH is in a condition to appreciate it, he takes note of the spontaneous and genuine wave of affection and concern that has been expressed on his behalf in the last 24 hours or so. When he reads the papers and perhaps even threads like this, it should make him feel very good indeed.

It is rare that a TV person comes over as such a decent, genuine and funny bloke. I think it is a combination of his real enthusiasm for what he does as well as his ability to take a joke at his own expense. He is also almost completely free of cynicism.

I too hope that TG isn't too sanitsied after all this, but i suspect that it will be. Healthansafety is the new religion.

I read in the paper yesterday that the governments official estimate of the number of children's lives that will be saved by the new booster seat rules is 1.5 a year. (not sure where the half comes in, but that's statistics for you..)

Richard Hammond in serious crash - PhilW
Very encouraging report in today's Telegraph about "Hammond out of intensive care"
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006...l
And a further article with some good quotes from James May including "I was chuffed to see him and although he's muttering, he seems much like the irritating little person I know and love. Even when he can't say much, he seemed to make as much sense as he does when he can talk normally."

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006...l

let's hope his injuries are not as serious as at first thought and he will make that "full recovery"
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Richard Hammond in serious crash - Paul Robinson
The bit I liked in the telegraph James May interview was:

He tried to sit up when I came in and he gave me a sort of grin, which I have to say was a very uplifting moment for me," he said. "I had a bit of an unmanly moment at that point.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - DP
Great article. I liked that unmanly moment comment, as well as:

"I was chuffed to see him and although he's muttering, he seems much like the irritating little person I know and love. Even when he can't say much, he seemed to make as much sense as he does when he can talk normally."

I hope he's going to be OK, and that his family are taking some comfort from this morning's developments. As others have said, he just comes across as a good, down to earth bloke with a great sense of humour, and I have to say I'm a huge fan of him as a presenter, both on TG and Brainiac.

Cheers
DP

Richard Hammond in serious crash - PST
Can I point out that Justgiving.com charge the charities 5% gross of your donation as well as subscription charges for their website. If you were looking at donating to other air ambulances in the UK then you might also consider doing it directly.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - Statistical outlier
That is true, but they also allow the charity to benefit from the 28% gift aid recovery without expending administrative effort.

It's a poll of 1, and I'm no expert myself so take as you will, but a friend who works as a professional fundraiser thinks it is at worst evens, possibly cheaper through Justgiving than doing it themselves.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - PST
I'm not an expert either which is why I tried not to pass comment as to whether this was a suitable way to donate or not. But I did think it worthwhile to highlight the fact that Justgiving are making money out of this i.e. they are not a charity.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - smokie
I recall with JustGiving that you can do the tax exempt thing so that for every £1 you put in, the charity gets somewhat more. I realise this can be done in other ways but it's certainly an easy way to donate.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - cheddar
I'm not an expert either which is why I tried not
to pass comment as to whether this was a suitable way
to donate or not. But I did think it worthwhile to
highlight the fact that Justgiving are making money out of this
i.e. they are not a charity.


As Gordon M said above "That is true, but they also allow the charity to benefit from the 28% gift aid recovery without expending administrative effort."

I.e. the 5% that goes to justgiving is lkely to be less that the admin of collecting themselves and sorting out gift aid etc.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - GregSwain
Todays developments are very positive - if someone's out of Intensive Care this quickly I would reckon they'd make a very good recovery. He's a very well-liked personality, and always comes across as a decent bloke - it'd certainly be a loss to TV if he was unable to return to Top Gear. Hopefully he'll be able to play a part in presenting the next series.
Richard Hammond in serious crash - Imagos
I think that the reaction and coverage over the last two days has been staggering and for Mr Hammond himself quite humbling.

Somebody mentioned to me today that this sort of coverage is simular to Stirling Moss's terrible accident at Goodwood in 1962 when the nation held its breath for several days while Stirling was in hospital and gradually came out of a coma.

Stirling was the nations favourite son then as is Richard today.

Stirling has remained a houshold name some 40 years later and through unfortunate circumstances Richard will be too.
 

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