As a regular motorway driver I see a lot of passengers with their feet up on the dashboard (with or without shoes depending on the weather).
Can any motor engineer or surgeon comment on the fact that in a crash you are likely to get your knees behind your ears in approx 1 second.and what that is likely to do to you.
I am aware that there is alleged to be a Kama Sutraposition like this but I bet you do not get into it in less than 1 second.
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im not a surgeon but can tell you that it wouldnt be a pretty sight.........................
i always tell anybody who thinks that they can escape dynamics is to go down to your local holding pen for recovered vehicles from accidents,5 minutes in there and you would wear your seat belt for ever more...
hows that? :)
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Actually you possibly could be better off !.
You would not get your legs crushed in the foot well and i suppose you would rotate until you were upside down in your seat (seat belt allowing) so maybe not, the seat belt could strangle you ?
Any evidence of known injuries exaccerbated by riding in the car in this position??.
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*Thinks of passenger airbag*
Well, that's put me right off my tea.
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So we need to look for anyone who walks like they are riding a horse :)
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Biggest danger of feet up would probably be the risk of "submarining" under the seatbelt. However, no problem if it is adults, they are big enough to decide their own level of risk. It is the idiots who drive with their kids standing on the back seat that amaze me. Generally with a "Little Princess On Board" sticker in the window.
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Robin Reliant, formerly known as Tom Shaw
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.....telescopic fractures of the legs.
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Why? wouldn't your hips and knees move ?
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I dealt with a case where the passanger sustained these horrific injuries.
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From riding in the passenger seat with feet up on the dash ??
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yep. Head on collision on a country road. Nasty, very nasty. (that's why we have footwells !)
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SWMBO used to do this when we were first dating, some 17 years ago.
She couldn't understand the problem at first but was pursuaded otherwise.
Mind you, I've always been the sort to insist that passengers do as they're told within reason or they don't get a lift.
H
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"Mind you, I've always been the sort to insist that passengers do as they're told within reason or they don't get a lift."
Is that how she ended up having to marry you, then Hugo??!
;-)
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And I bet it's not you giving the orders now, either.
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Robin Reliant, formerly known as Tom Shaw
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On carriages and early cars the dashboard was a wooden board for resting your feet on that also gave some protection from water and thrown up road muck.
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It depends whether the knee is locked in extension or slightly flexed at the point of impact. Most people would instinctively curl up at the stage when a crash was imminent... Though theres not always any warning. There are a suprisingly high number of crushed foot injuries from the footwell collapsing, so in some ways its not that much of a danger, 6 and 2 threes and all that.
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I seem to have posted about passengers with feet on dashboard a few times, eg see:
www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=24503&...f
Basically, iirc, the German crash test showed that the airbag folded the passenger up like a penknife, probably fatally.
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The event I recalled was non-airbag. Foreign driver on the incorrect side of the road, narrow road, local going about his business, catastrophic injuries. The driver from abroad got locked up on the spot.
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Do other people, like me, take offence when front seat passengers do this?
It amazes me that a well brought up person who is a friend of yours thinks it's OK to abrade your facia and cover it with visible or invisible traces of chewing gum, vomit and dog excrement.
Yet I have to say one or two people I even still regard as friends have done this in my cars. Inexplicable. They may think they're being cool and republican.
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Do other people, like me, take offence when front seat passengers do this? It amazes me that a well brought up person who is a friend of yours thinks it's OK to abrade your facia and cover it with visible or invisible traces of chewing gum, vomit and dog excrement
What ??
Isn't that the road Howard Hughes trod?.
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