152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - sony
Is that price a fair price? I know nothing about cars, at all.
It has SH, last serviced at 134k, cambelt changed then too.
Air con and leather seats, P reg TDI.
How long is it going to last, providing I take care of it??!
Thanks
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - local yokel
Forget the leather seats, they add little/no value. The aircon is nice to have, but could break very soon, and cost far too much to replace, so it's also close to worthless.

It's got a VW badge on it, which people like, but also is worthless to you!

So you are left with a 10 year old car that has done about what it was designed to do. There could be big bills around the corner. Having spent £2k on it you'll feel you have to pump more into it, just because you've got that £2k tied up. Spend half that and you can just about afford to throw way the car if it dies, and needs major surgery that is uneconomical.

On that basis I'd suggest it's worth £1,250, but others may have a different idea.

FWIW I had a Mk3 Golf, and it's underside was rotten by the time it died. My mechanic said it was not the first he'd seen with such galloping rust. The bodywork looked great, however.
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - Adam {P}
It'd be expensive with that much mileage on it even if it was a VR6. But an old diesel?

Agree with yokel - far too overpriced.
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - cottontop
12 months ago I paid £1700 for a 96 Golf TD Estate with full service history, etc and 109,00miles on the clock. Would be worried if he said that the timing belt was changed at 134,000 as on mine (n reg) its a 60,000 mile interval...other than that id say its vastly over priced...
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - Honestjohn
They're asking at least double what it's worth. More like 3x.

HJ
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - sony
Why is that though?? I mean just checked ebay and most audi's (vw engines) with nearing 200k mileage can go for £3-4k!!!!!!!
It's in great nick, leather and aircon. Surely 150k doesn't mean anything? By what i've seen on the service booklet it was definately a company car- it racked up the miles quite quickly.
I mean i'd understand if i was comparing a vw- citroen but a vw and audi is basically the same thing surely?
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - nick
Why is that though??

Because that's what the market says. If you're happy paying that price then fine. Personally, I'd listen to the man who posted before you. But it's your money.
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - mss1tw
Hooooooow much?!
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - TrevL
Not an exact match, but I sold my ten year old 1.9D Vento (unfashionable Golf with boot) for £450 (175000 miles) eighteen months ago to a friend's daughter as a uni hack. She's put plenty of miles on it and had no trouble. It's still sound, bodywork rusting around wheel arches, but that's about it. I think there was a thread from HJ about bore wear on VW TDIs, that maybe didn't affect normally aspirated diesels. £2k sounds a lot for this one.
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - Sprice
Its advertised as having aircon (which they think gives them the right to wildly over-price it), but does it work as in it blows ice cold?

This price can't be far off encroaching on bog-standard (i.e. 1.4S) mark 4 golfs?
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - adverse camber
Is this your car ?

I notice that you have previously asked questions about a mk3 golf tdi which makes me think that this might be a valuation on your own car. That would explain why you dont seem to like the answers about it being overpriced (it is).

A golf isnt worth as much as an audi for all sorts of reasons. Partly just badges, but the used car market is a market. A car is worth what someone will pay. Why should anyone pay £2000 for a 10 year old golf with 150K miles on it?
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - Ian D
At 152K, last serviced at 134K, thats 18K since the last oil change, 8k more than VW recommend and 12k more than anyones sensible would leave it, its probably a bit of a smoker and there are better ones out there, offer a low price or walk away...
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - local yokel
To answer your Q - it's a VW, not an Audi, and 200k 96P A4s don't go for £3-4 k anyway. The fact that a plonker pays £xxx on Ebay means just that - he's a plonker.

And to repeat - the leather and AC are worth nothing on a car of that age - they'll help sell it, and help a seller hold his price, but the buyer should discount them to zero. He's buying basic transport at that price, and what he needs is reliability above all else.

Offer £1,100, be prepared to go up by £75-£100 if the rubber is good, and then walk.
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - sony
No mark this isn't my car- my car is a mk3 golf TD
The TDI is for my father- its an auto as he's got bad back problems. The air con is ice cold works on all settings. yes.
so its all down to the badge!
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - George Porge
Auto would fetch a premium as there's not many about.
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - legacylad
A friend of mine has just sold his R reg Golf CL Tdi estate, with 2 owners, FSH and very clean inside, 110k genuine miles,for £1100.00.
I advertised it for him in the local free supermarket ads at £1200.00.
All parties were happy at this price.
£2000 seems a joke, umless you are the seller and get near this amount
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - MichaelR
Ridiculous. What we have here is a DECADE old, 150,000 mile, bog standard TWO GENERATION OLD Volkswagen Golf. A cheap disposable hatchback and nothing more. It is not a special car, it is not interesting, it is merely a starship mileage old Golf. It is worth £500 and not a penny more.

If you pay £2000 for this car you are absolutely insane.

It will look like a £500 banger, becuase it is a £500 banger. Pay £500 for it, it look elsewhere, cracked, worn horrible leather interior notwithstanding.
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - bell boy
Ridiculous. What we have here is a DECADE old, 150,000 mile,
bog standard TWO GENERATION OLD Volkswagen Golf. A cheap disposable hatchback
and nothing more. It is not a special car, it is
not interesting, it is merely a starship mileage old Golf. It
is worth £500 and not a penny more.
If you pay £2000 for this car you are absolutely insane.
It will look like a £500 banger, becuase it is a
£500 banger. Pay £500 for it, it look elsewhere, cracked, worn
horrible leather interior notwithstanding.


ill have 2 please at £500 a shot.........
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - MichaelR
And what would you do with two banger Golfs witih 150k on them? Drive to the local health club thinking you are posh becuase you have a 'Peoples Car'?

I really dont understand why some people seem to think VW's are some sort of prestige marque. Err, not at all. You only need to sit in a Mk3 Golf to realise it is an old hatchback and nothing more. It doesn't even handle with sparkle like the Mk1 and Mk2. It's not old enough to be a classic, not new enough to be worth paying proper money for.

Prestige VAG? That'll be Audi. A Golf is merely a Focus rival with delusions of grandeur.
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - bell boy
its got all the toys that people want and its 134,000 miles i would wack one in autotrader at £995 and sell the other one off the same advert and be in the pub sat afternoon with my feet up

job done...............
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - Happy Blue!
If the car is tidy and its auto with air con and leather, it will be of interest to a certain range of people for whom paying an extra £x00's is worth it to find the car they really want. Mind you, it still seems over the top. The auto will add about £250 to the manual value? Offer £1250 and see where you get to.
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - caesar
A Golf is merely a Focus rival with delusions of grandeur

Resale say's you dont know what you are talking about!

I bet you have a ford. ( i do).
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - Andy P
Autotrader:

97 1.9 diesel, 122K, £850
97 1.9CL TDi, 101K, £1000
96 1.9 TD, 91K, £1150
97 1.9 TDi GL, 105K, £1500

So it looks a tad overpriced...

152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - Xileno {P}
Not only is this over-priced but they're not good cars IMO. Build quality was poor compared to the MK2, they can also rust quite badly - you need to get underneath. Also there's that TDi engine, generally reliable and economical but makes enough racket to wake the dead.
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - No FM2R
I would say that Oldman is pretty spot on. Its worth about 900 quid in the trader.

However, what you can sell it for is not neccessariily what its worth to you. You don't wan tto get too knottted up on what other people would pay.

If you want it, if you compared it to alternative examples, if you're not buying it to make a profit, then pay what its worth to you. Perhaps £2,000 is pushing it, but I've paid well over the odds for something because I wanted it an dthey were scarce,

Just remember that what you're making is not a great financial deal, tis just one that emotionally suits you.

If you're trying to make a financial bargain, then I would go back to Oldman's note again.
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - cheddar
but I've paid well over the odds for something because I wanted it an dthey were scarce,>>



My dad recently paid a little over book price for a 2002 Focus estate, he was after a 2.0 petrol, manual, Ghia with climate and leather, the car ticked all the boxes, he liked the colour, he decided it was what he wanted and it could be a while before another one came along, he is happy. However he paid 10% over book max, that Golf is between 50 and 100% over priced it seems.
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - VR6
I agree with most people on here - £2000 is way over priced. For a 10 year old car. Trust me - i own a Mk3 Golf, and at that age and mileage there are all sorts of things which may need replacing very soon.

I sold a Mk3 Golf Driver 1.8 for £2350 about 3 years ago with a lot less mileage and I thought I'd done well.

For what its worth, a leather interior with leather door cards sold seperatly is worth £400 - £500 depending on a) condition b) if its heated. A standard cloth interior could be picked up for next to nothing.
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - sony
Right so in other words it is overpriced. The seller tells me its worth £1400 without the extras and aircon and leather add quite a lot of value. He wont budge from that price so will have to look elsewhere. Aircon and leather are a must for me, not bothered about any other extra!! Not many golfs about for 2 grand with those extras, and I certainly dont want french cars!
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - mss1tw
German French or Mongolian is irrelevant at this price/mileage/car type.
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - Xileno {P}
Indeed, and condition is everything. If you are getting a MK3 then I strongly suggest you put some old clothes on and crawl underneath. These cars can rust underneath quite badly despite looking immaculate on top.

If you are not too bothered about image (and if you're considering a VW then I guess you're not ;-) ), then you could consider a Rover 400 diesel. Look out for the SLDi model, has leather and aircon plus all the usual toys. It also has the tough L Series turbo diesel engine that is a match for these older generation TDi's. Or you could look for a post 1995 200 (bubble shape) which also uses the same engine. Or a bit bigger is the 600 as well. The L Series is a very tough and reliable engine and unlike these latest CR diesels doesn't cost an arm, leg and foot to repair.
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - mare
As an alternative, how about a T reg Octavia TDi SLX with "only" 125,000 miles. The SLX gives you climate and alloys and other stuff, and it's based on the Mk4 Golf, but with a much bigger boot. 110 bhp too.

second hit on an Auto Trader search, up for sale for £1,990 at a dealer in Fishponds, Bristol.
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - local yokel
> Right so in other words it is overpriced. The seller tells me its worth £1400 without the extras and aircon and leather add quite a lot of value.

He's wrong, on both counts. He's 40% out on the base price, and a zillion% out on the extras. They are worth nil.
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - Gromit {P}
He's (seller) wrong, on both counts. He's 40% out on the base price, and a zillion% out on the extras.


He's also probably hoping that if he holds his ground you'll want the car bad enough to pay the asking price. And if you want it badly enough, fair enough, its your choice.

"It has SH, last serviced at 134k, cambelt changed then too."

I'd be surprised if the service interval on these was more than 10,000 miles. Which means its missed a service - and makes the deal look even less attractive, to my mind at least.

Also, have a close look at what the CBCB has to say on Mk3 autoboxes!
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - Sprice
It has SH not FSH so it probably has got a patchy history. Its amazing how many people (on ebay etc) claim a car has FSH because it has stamps in the right places (but no invoices to back them up)!

Extras do add to the s/h price, if they're the right extras. Sat-nav, Climate/air con and leather are ones that do, things like parking sensors, mud flaps etc don't.
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - local yokel
Sprice

We are talking about a one grand car here, not a £20k schmoozer. It's worth money if It does all the things a one grand car should do. The AC could pack up any minute, and will cost more than the car is worth to fix, so it's worth nil. The leather might be OK, but it's still not worth a dime to our buyer of bangers, who should just be looking at the suitability of the car to his (basic) needs.
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - sony
Are mk3 golfs really "bangers"??! lol
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - bell boy
Are mk3 golfs really "bangers"??


yep
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - akr
All three of my Golfs were as reliable as old bangers and not one of them ever got to their first MOT before I got shut.
Does the guy who wants £2000 for this heap still believe in Santa Claus? Does he still believe the world is flat?
The words "cloud", "cuckoo" and "land" spring to mind!!!
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - MichaelR
Are mk3 golfs really "bangers"??! lol


Of course they are, what else do you call something introduced in 1991 and which has been out of production for almost 10 years?
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - local yokel
Sony - are you and the seller of this geriatric piece somehow in league to persuade the more gullible of this country that what was a fairly average car in its day (and not a touch on the Mk1 or the Mk2) is to be elevated to the motoring peerage in its dotage, and revered and admired for reasons that are beyond the rest of us?

Do tell us.
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - mss1tw
sony if you want it that much and are happy to pay then just buy it, seriously.

I don't think you will find any one else who would though. At least, not this side of the Shady Acres perimeter fence.
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - rtj70
My brother had a Golf GTi 8v on a K plate (so mark 3) and he really liked it. And he had it from new as a company vehicle. Except when it rained a lot which meant for instance on a motorway the engine could shut-down and not restart. So coast onto hard shoulder and get recovered. Lots.

Once on the way from Manchester to South Wales, got recovered about half the distance and the local VW dealer there (once car taken there next day ) said there was a problem with Golf MKIII's and later ones had a metal plate under engine stopping road spray getting into electrics. ie. a big design fault.

He tried on many occasions to reject it on safefy ground but no luck.... lease/company car. He moved to California (same employer) before the lease ended but don't think that was a factor :-)

So my point.... when did they fit the redesigned plates under the engine? And what about this car. Chris' was a nightmare.

Also Posted elsewhere on forum to say my Passat needed a new turbo on delivery. My Golf MIV 1.8 GTi needed a new gearbox from new! So at 152k miles what would you believe is reliable????

Have enjoyed using the old VW adverts about squeaks to get problems sorted though :-) Okay that is the perception but that is how we buy 'em.

Rob
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - George Porge
My old banger sailed through its MOT yesterday.

In two and a half years its had front discs and pads £30, wishbone bushes£10, 4 tyres£140, centre and back box£70, a second hand headlamp £20 and an offside track rod £80 (fitted). Vag cambelt kit was £80.

Golf TDi estate S plate paid £2700 with 108K miles two and a half years ago and gives 50mpg everytime

Currently has a broken OSF window motor, a wobbly aircon pump clutch assembly (but its ice cold) and is a little hard to start (but it does)

Banger, nail, heap, whatever. Gets me where I want to go and its enough for me
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - Micky
You could be paying £2k for the privilege of throwing more £ks at the thing. If auto is important then look for something Japanese with half the mileage from a local(ish) dealer with a good warranty.
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - local yokel
Dox

Did your motor pass without a working driver's window?
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - Xileno {P}
Dox's is a MK4, a (slightly) more tolerable Golf IMO.
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - George Porge
Its a MK3 estate, I have a MK4 hatch too, hers

Window was not functioning at the MOT test, it does'nt have to
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - Xileno {P}
Must have been one of the very last. All 'S' reg estates I've seen have benn MK 4's.
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - local yokel
Dox - that's good, I was under the mis-apprehension that if present the driver's window had to be able to open and close fully.
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - tokyo20
Mk3 golfs are the toughest cars out there no question!! They never break down, and all you people haven't got a clue!! Most mk3 golfs can easily go over 200k miles, most cars struggle to get to that mileage. VAG are best!!!!!!!
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - local yokel
T20 - you clearly did not see the undersideof my now expired Mk3 estate - very rotten, and quite commonly so. The topside looked great, however.

We've not really been running down Golfs, except to say that £2k for a 150k miler is overpriced. The OP has a ready supply of rose-tinted spectacles when it comes to value/price.
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - Xileno {P}
I've just seen a pig flying past my window.
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - bell boy
we are having it on the spit tomorrow night.............
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - George Porge
I've got a neighbour with a T plate mk3.

Door handles are MOTable but not drop glass.

Early MK3s were poorly built, later cars are much better
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - tokyo20
Overpriced maybe. But you're all kicking up quite a fuss!! They're good cars and OP could do far worse than getting one of them.
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - Xileno {P}
He could do far worse but he could also do far better.
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - tokyo20
So suggestions so far are a rover or a skoda? Thats far better is it??!!
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - Xileno {P}
The Rover is at least as good. The Skoda is better in as much as you will be getting basically the same VAG engineering for much less money.
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - George Porge
The Skoda is a better car but replacement parts are more expensive than a MK3 Golf which is MK2 based mechanically
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - rtj70
I had a MK4 Golf on a T Plate (GTI Turbo) and they'd been around for a few years, Your neughbour must have had a Mk3 on an older plate. Or it had been parked somewhere for a while.
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - George Porge
Estates carried on for a while after the MK4 hatches appeared. Have a look on ebay there's a few around
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - George Porge
110017494606

Told yer ;-)
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - rtj70
Sorry forgot about the estate. And the convertibles as "Mk4" were actually Mk3 too. Externally tweaked but internally you knew it was an old model design.
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - RichardM
IMO these are quite tough 'utilitarian' cars (very plain, dated and basic but do the job), but reliability is always going to be an issue unless you are very fortunate, and at that mileage anything is likely to go wrong. The paintwork can still look great at 10 years however, possibly giving a false impression about the rest of the car. But in no way is this (or any other MK3) worth anything like that much. That's just typical of the overpriced German car prices. Japanese would be a much better buy for the money.
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - cheddar
A local Ford dealer has a P plate golf cabrio for over 3 grand, ridiculous!
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - George Porge
Cabs always hold their money. Local dealer to me has a white M plate at £2K, model unknown (I was driving)
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - Stainless
I have a GOLF 1.9 TDi GL, N reg 5Door with 136k on the clock and I would'nt TAKE £2000 for it so if its a good one Sony don't be swayed by all these knockers. My cars value is what it is worth to ME as it stands, its market value would only be considered if I wanted to sell it AND I DON'T WANT TO SELL IT.
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - Xileno {P}
The personal vaue of a car is invariably higher than the market value. But when you're buying, the personal value is irrelevent.
Sony is thinking of buying and the only price he should be interested in is the market price, which in this case is too high.
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - Vin {P}
What staggers me is that I'm selling a four year younger, 20,000 miles fewer Omega that has never failed to be serviced on the nail. I'm expecting to get about £800-900 if I'm lucky.

V
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - DP
Earlier this year, my father in law p-ex'd his 97P mk3 Golf CL TDI with 175k and got £900 for it in p/ex against £5,500 worth of 52 plate TDI 130 SE estate. This was at a long established (and decent IMO) indie dealer locally.

The next day the old banger was on the forecourt for £1900 and a week later, it had gone. I called pretending to be interested in the car, and was told it had been sold to a punter in just 2 days.

It drove okay, but was clearly pretty tired, and was starting to cost money to keep running. In the last 6 months of ownership it had needed a starter motor, a wheel bearing, a window regulator, a set of glow plugs, a PAS rack seal and some major surgery to the diesel pump. It also had an intermittent central locking fault which wasn't picked up (or mentioned in any case) when it was appraised for p/x.

Hence my father in law's decision to change it before it cost him any more money. Being someone who can never be bothered with the hassle of selling a car privately, and with £900 being about what he thought it was worth, he jumped at the offer, of course employing the "not too outwardly keen" manner one always uses in the presence of a car dealer. I must admit, I thought £900 was pretty fair as well.

I was not only shocked, but kicking myself when I found out it had sold for more than twice that after just 2 days. If I'd realised there were people out there willing to pay the best part of £2k for a tired banger with a VW badge on it, I'd have given him a grand for it and sold it on myself! ;-)

Cheers
DP
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - local yokel
DP - You don't know that the dealer got £1900, but he may have brokered a finance deal, and taken an even doggier PX as deposit. I doubt you would have wanted all that grief....
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - adverse camber
And given a warranty.
152000 miles, mk3 golf, £2000? - madf
When you can buy a new car for under £8k,

ANYONE who pays £2k for a 13year old one with over 150k on the clock

needs help.

Seriously.

Just look at it like this.

For £2k you can buy a 5years old car that may be worth£1k after 2 years' use.

If you pay £2k for a 13year old car, its resale value is at best £1k. Unless of course you can find an idiot to buy it.
Because imo only idiots pay that kind of money for 13 year old cars.

Why?

becasue it's due - by time and mielage - for the scrapyard. Statistical facts .

Yes I know lots of drivers with older cars and bigger mileage. But statistically they are in a minority.

I repeat. ANYONE who pays £2k for that kind of car has more money than sense :-(
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