The reason for the price variation is SUPPLY & DEMAND, a well known economic principle.
There's obviously more competition in your home town than where you visited.
It's the same reason that house prices, wages, beer prices, used car prices, etc, vary in different parts of the UK.
Thankfully, we don't have a totalitarian state (yet) which imposes equality on everything.
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IIRC, Asda have a policy of a national price. Others compete locally.
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The reason for the price variation is SUPPLY & DEMAND>>
I don't buy that at all. Both stores are as busy as each other which includes the fuel garage and the population of each town is simular.
The more expensive garage is even nearer to Coryton refinery where i think the fuel comes from so it cant be distribution costs.
IMO there is NO justification for the difference.
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The reason for the price variation is SUPPLY & DEMAND>> I don't buy that at all. Both stores are as busy as each other which includes the fuel garage and the population of each town is simular.
Are they other petrol stations close to either of those you saw? I suspect that not all conditions are equla for the two stations and the reason for the lower price is as others have pointed out good old fashioned competition.
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I think you're misunderstanding supply and demand theory.
If I can sell petrol at £1.50 a litre and get the same number of people across my forecourt as another garage selling at £1.00, I would be mad not to. If punters started to drift away, I'd need to drop my price to get them back (all other things being equal). The price will settle where the garage has the number of punters it wants at whatever price manages to achieve that.
The people to blame are the people USING the forecourt, not the owners. If users drifted away, prices would have to drop. Harsh economic reality, but we get the pricing we deserve as we're prepared to accept it.
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The problem is that supermarkets can sell petrol as a loss-leader by cross subsidy. Then when the local independents go bust, the supermarket prices rise. Simple really. The same applies to all local retailers from bakers to off-licences.
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"Then when the local independents go bust, the supermarket prices rise. Simple really. The same applies to all local retailers from bakers to off-licences."
Are you really saying that Tesco/Sainsbury/Morrisons in Anytown puts up prices when a local bakery shuts up shop? I don't think so. If nothing else, they have the other supermarkets to compete against.
This forum really is degenerating into a "big business good, small business bad" whingefest. If you don't want to pay supermarket prices for petrol/groceries/anything, YOU DON'T HAVE TO. Go somewhere else.
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Life in England....
We start with milkman who deliver to your door.
Tescos start to sell milk, which you have to go and collect, for 2p less per pint
Everybody is outraged milkman is so expensive
Everybody buys milk at Tescos
Milkman goes bust
No milkmen any more
People outraged at evil Tescos.
Ditto post-offices, butchers, local shops, village pubs, railways, etc. etc. etc. I know, I know, *you* always use the village shop, paid the milkman, use the village post office at every opportunity. But you're one amongst few.
>>This forum really is degenerating into a "big business good, small business bad" whingefest.
Its not just in the type of police force that you get what you deserve.
I don't think you need this bit ""big business good, small business bad"".
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Absolutely.
You want local? you want independants?
said it before on here will say it again
use them or loose them.
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Ive said it before petrol is priced thus:
charge as much as you can get away with.That means every one in the resale of petrol / diesel rips off joe public.
Its the same with food. clothes you name it thats Great Britain for you.
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rustbucket (the original)
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Its the same with food. clothes you name it thats Great Britain for you.
Yes? its called profit an free enterprise? Its also what pays taxes to government that pays for your healthcare and funds my pension fund
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>That means every one in the resale of petrol / diesel rips off joe public.
You do realise that members of "joe Public" also own shops, petrol stations, restaurants etc. that members of Joe Public sell their time to employers, and you do realsie that this includes you ?
Do you give your emplyer a discount of 10% just because you can ? You don't ? What a "rip-off" worker you are.
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... This forum really is degenerating into a "big business good, small business bad" whingefest
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did you mean to say it the otherway round "big business bad, small business good" ?
i find the general tone here and in the country at large (specially the media) is "all businesses bad, public sector good" .
as for tvm, he is deafinatly incoragable.
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"did you mean to say it the otherway round "big business bad, small business good" ?"
I was wondering who would spot my deliberate mistake.
As for:
" charge as much as you can get away with.", the pearl from rustbucket.
That should really be rewritten "charge as much as people *will pay*". What on Earth are they meant to do?
To look at it another way, you sell your labour to the organisation that employs you. Do you try to get as much for your labour as they will pay? If so, then you are "ripping off" your employer in the same way you apparently think you're being "ripped off" by business.
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On saturday had to drive upto London then over to Herne Bay and back via Dorking to Weybridge. Of the 100 or so garages I went past at least 90 were doing diesel at 99.9 (including surprisingly Clackett Lane services), a few were at 98.9, and the cheapest was in Hinchley Wood ,Esher and just of the A3 at Hook, at 97.9.
Last week it was cheap on the road between M3 AND M4 ON THE A322.
For your cheapest local garage try www.petrolprices.com
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We used to have three petrol stations in our town (small market town), a Tesco and two independents. The two independents closed, there was nothing else within 10 miles and Tesco started charging more than other garages around 15 miles away. Following lots of complaints - articles in the paper, and customers filling in a complaints form every time they went into Tesco, Tesco eventually agreed to pin their price to the same as their big store in the big town 15 miles away. So the pressure seems to have worked so far (5 years on)
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For your cheapest local garage try www.petrolprices.com
Better still, Mr W
www.petrolprices.com will let you choose up to 3 areas - postcodes or towns - and have emails sent to you every weekday showing the 10 cheapest filling stations.
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Trouble is, I'm a bit reluctant to give out my e-address these days. I am already being bombarded with pharmaceutical offers, on-line gambling, unmissable financial deals and offers of lovely Russian ladies who can't wait to meet me.
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I am already being bombarded with pharmaceutical offers,on-line gambling, unmissable financial deals and offers of lovely Russian ladies who can't wait to meet me.
Doesn't happen to me, what's your secret?
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Doesn't happen to me, what's your secret?
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I wish I knew. I blame SWMBO for giving the address to all and sundry.
...... must admit, the pharmaceuticals, the gambling and the financial stuff does nothing for me. Those Russians look pretty cute though........ ; >) Just don't touch that link!!!
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Waino
petrolprices.com is the only site on which I have registered my work e-mail address. (Don't ask me why, I have no idea).
I get precisely ZERO spam from any source at work, unlike most of my colleagues (so it's not all down to spam filtering.)
Since joining last September I think I have had two newsy mails from the site in total; so you really have nothing to lose by registering.
(No connection, obviously, other than as a satisfied customer).
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every diesel price in my vicinity, Woking, Weybridge, Chertsey, all diesels seem to be 99.9, and the cheapest listed all seem to be Shell or Esso - rarely if ever does it seem to list Tesco or Sainsbury stores,even if they are the same prices, is it truely independant and accurate??
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every diesel price in my vicinity, Woking, Weybridge, Chertsey, all diesels seem to be 99.9, and the cheapest listed all seem to be Shell or Esso - rarely if ever does it seem to list Tesco or Sainsbury stores,even if they are the same prices, is it truely independant and accurate??
I use www.petrolprices.com quite a lot. It does seem that the nearest 97.9 diesel price to you is in my neck of the woods.
If you are passing Hinchley Wood; Surbiton; Sunbury; Guildford; Leatherhead, they all have diesel at slightly cheaper prices - until tomorrow's price increase of course!
It it independant and accurate? So far as I know - yes. I haven't yet caught it out.
Good luck! and keep hunting
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It regularly lists Tesco and Sainsbury for me, along with Asda and Morrisons - but then they're the closest and cheapest to my work postcode.
If they are neither particularly close to you, nor particularly cheap, it has no reason to list them although I bet if you stuck that supermarket's postcode in it would list it as it would then be the closest station - unless it wasn't in the top 5 within the closest possible distance.
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95.9p near here in Watford - sickening, isn't it, these regional variations? (Mind you, I'm sure it's on the way up.)
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