Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Dynamic Dave

Morris Minor tops poll of most quintessentially British vehicles

www.theautochannel.com/news/2006/07/14/014722.html

Top ten list of the UK?s most quintessentially British vehicles

1. Morris Minor
2. Aston Martin
3. Rolls Royce
4. Fire Engine
5. Mini
6. Black Cab
7. Double decker bus
8. Robin Reliant
9. Milk Float
10. Green Goddess
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Manatee
Compiled by a motoring expert I see - what's a Robin Reliant?
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - local yokel
"The Morris Minor, with its wooden panels and distinctive curves" - the one I had must have been bodged/a fake then. Can't remember any wooden panels.
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - blue_haddock
"The Morris Minor, with its wooden panels and distinctive curves" -
the one I had must have been bodged/a fake then.
Can't remember any wooden panels.


A traveller perhaps?
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - jc2
The "Half-timbered" car.
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Hugo {P}
I was told that the timbers on the Morris travellor were actually a structural part of the body, but not on the mini traveller. Can anyone enlighten me?

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Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Pugugly {P}
Dunno how they came up with that, I agree with the Moggie. I suppose they asked the GBP which is notorious for having the attention span of a goldfish. "Fire Engine" As if no other country in the World have them.....what a load of guff.

I would have included the Reliant probably, Bently 3 litre, Bristol (probably the most British of cars) any number of MGs, a Morgan etc etc also the Allegro - no other sane country would have come up with that.
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - local yokel
The ash framework on a Minor Traveller is structural, bou on the Mini Traveller it's just stuck on afterwards!
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - jc2
There were also Morris vans fitted with windows and stuck-on wood just as there are a lot more "tourers" than were ever built by Morris.
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Robin Reliant
An invention of tabloid journalists, used to describe a Reliant Regal.
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Robin Reliant
Compiled by a motoring expert I see - what's a Robin
Reliant?

An invention of tabloid journalists, used to describe a Reliant regal.

PS - Edit button, please.
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Stuartli
There were also convertible versions of the Minor.

I had a 1960 1098cc Morris Minor (bought in 1964 with 19k on the clock from two elderly ladies who lived in Blackpool) and went all over the UK in it, including on honeymoon.

Belting little car and everyone I know who had one always refers to them in awe.
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Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Imagos
1. Morris Minor - yep agree with that.
2. Aston Martin - best british? American owned (no bad thing though)
3. Rolls Royce - yep agree with that but....
4. Fire Engine- Do they mean a Dennis?
5. Mini - About as British now as sourkraut
6. Black Cab - Yes it's British!
7. Double decker bus -Yes it's British!
8. Robin Reliant - A British Embarassment.
9. Milk Float .. A British Embarassment
10. Green Goddess- A British Embarassment . A dinosaur from years ago.

Only the Black cab, Double Decker and Morris Minor worthy of being on this list. All at the cutting edge of technology too.
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Pugugly {P}
And a Green Goddess is a Fire Engine. Daft Article.
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Pugugly {P}
.....and anyway who actually takes part in these "polls" ?
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Imagos
Nobody.. it's made up by a publicist.
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Imagos
..this survey is done by the same people as Family Fortunes.. We asked 100 people what is their favourite colour car?

Of course they did!

Cobblers.
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - NowWheels
7. Double decker bus -Yes it's British!


And is much loved by tourists, but as a tool of everyday transport, it's a PITA. Which is why hardly any other countries use them.

Another British embarassment.
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Number_Cruncher
I disagree with all this knocking of British vehicles - a tedious and a depressing activity loved by many on this forum.

The list, however derived, is populated by old vehicles - if you choose to judge them by modern standards, they will come off second best. I don't think there is an embarassment on the list - each vehicle was designed within the needs and constraints of the time.

If British manufacturing continues its decline, we won't be able to compile such a list in the not too distant future - now that will be embarrasing!!

Number_Cruncher


Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Pugugly {P}
NC

It's because there are no modern British vehicles with which you could populate a top ten list.
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Number_Cruncher
Yes, I suppose a modern list is already tenuous.

Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Pugugly {P}
Arguably the Vauxhall Astra would be the most quintessentially British car after all they are Opels in all other markets.
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - No FM2R
Spot on N_C.

Knocking is a favourite past time of the Backroom whatever the subject.

These are old vehicles but full of character. And each in its day was valuable.

& why knock tradition and the like ? A London double-decker may not be the most efficient, but its hardly a PITA. And as someone who lived outside the UK, I can tell you its nice to see buses, taxis and the like. Its most certainly not an embarassement.

Don't people ever get tired of worrying about and criticising everything everybody else does, chooses, has simply becasue they personally wouldn't ? That's how we end up wiht most of the ridiculous traffic/motoring laws we have in this country.

A bit more live and let live in this country would go a long way.

I have very fond memories of Moggy Travellers (My first art teacher), Robin Reliant (my tough, biker-mate's answer to winter and a broken leg), Mini (how many did I have or work on at Uni?), Milk floats (the electric whirr and occasional free half-bottle), Double-deckers (trips into London as a young child and later when I lived there for my first job), etc. etc.

Why be embarassed ?
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - NowWheels
These are old vehicles but full of character. And each in its day was valuable.


That's the problem, Mark: in its day and was

The Routemaster bus was a brilliant piece of engineering with many fine qualities, but that was 40 or 50 years ago. The game has moved on, and it has been left behind -- to be replaced by imports.

Same with the Mini: a highly innovative, cleverly engineered little piece of genius, but uneconomic to make and allowed to fossilise before replaced by a German toy car. Meanwhile the French and Italians have modernised the small car, now joined by the Japanese and everyone else, and the Mini is history.

It's all very sad, but I don't see how clinging on to past glories helps.

Try making a similar list of things made in the past ten years, and it's depressing. The buses are imported (or bult on a foreign chassis), the cars are imported or made by foreign-owned companies. Just about the only thing on the list that has kept up to date is the London taxi: the TXII is a brilliant tool for its job.
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - No FM2R
But why be "embarassed" by them ?

Don't you find your life tiring ? Incessant knocking of everything motoring with blind and blinkered thinking ?

I'm not talking about whether you are right or wrong, merely that you must find it all so tedious.

Lighten up. Find something to like and enjoy rather than this endless depressing dislike. I'd always thought you were Irish - as in from Eire. I realise now that you must be a northerner. It takes a real Brit to hate all things british with such dedication.

The primary purpose of a human in this world is not to have no impact. We are here to live and to enjoy. And if that involves motoring, then get over it. That has an impact on the world and that needs to be borne in mind, but it is not the be all and end all of existence.

[cue the doom merchants: we're all doomed, we're all going to die, the world will explode and its my attitude causing it. yawn].
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Altea Ego
Mini. (the original) This is a car that completely changed the way cars were designed.
Moggy - Cant think of a more british car
black cab? cant think of anything more designed and suitable* for its task.

except*

Nowheels.. I am sorry you really really are talking out of your backside big time. You are utterly clueless about living and working in London.

The routemaster was and is superb at its job. The ability to leap on and off at will, the numbers you can pack in, the way the windows open and allow air in, the rugged mechanicals. To get around central london nothing beats the routemaster.

It should be no1 on that list.






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Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - NowWheels
Nowheels.. I am sorry you really really are talking out of your backside big time.
You are utterly clueless about living and working in London.


TVM, making assumptions like that is both rude and wrong. I lived in inner London and worked in central London for about a decade. Have you?

The bus from my longest-stay home was a No. 12, which was one of the last Routemaster routes. I also lived on the 53, 73 and 36 bus routes, all of which were routemasters at the time.

When I stay in London now, the routes I use most are the 12 and 36, both of which have been replaced (at least in part) by bendy buses. They are much easier to use in every respect, except for the occasional jump out the back.
The routemaster was and is superb at its job.


If you are young, agile, not too big, and don't need to carry anything with you. Squeezing into the downstairs with shopping bags is tough work, and climbing the stairs with bags in hand on a moving routemaster is nothing short of dangerous.
The ability to leap on and off at will, the numbers you can pack in,


Pack is the right word :( They were designmed for midgets who enjoyed intimacy with strangers.
the way the windows open and allow air in,


But not enough. On a hot day, they are very stuffy places (though, to be fair, the atrocious new double-deckers manage to be much worse)
To get around central london nothing beats the routemaster.


I wouldn't mind a modernised routemaster being available on some central London routes, such as a back-and forth along Oxford Street route, for city-centre hop-on-and-off journeys. They would remain useful for that job, if they had more space
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Altea Ego
Nowheels.

Yes I started work and lived in central london from 1973. to 1979 My job at the was traveling around the west end and city visiting customer using public transport. In the intervening years I have dont severl extending stinmts commuing to various parts. My last 5 day a week stint was from 2001 to 2004. I only do it one day a week now.

I was born in Bow


So yes I am qualified to recognise that your London, the one you see though your severely distorted and very selective glasses, is not the same London of my birth and 52 years experience.




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Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - NowWheels
Yes I started work and lived in central london from 1973 to 1979 My job at the was traveling around
the west end and city visiting customer using public transport.


For that job, I imagine that a routemaster may be pretty much ideal. But it's not a very common usage pattern.

(Mind you, some people in the backroom would tell you that job requires a car).
So yes I am qualified to recognise that your London, the one you see though your severely distorted
and very selective glasses, is not the same London of my birth and 52 years experience.


You are in a snippy mood today! But apart from the unnecessary invective, I think you make a useful point: that there are a lot of different ways to experience London.
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Altea Ego
You are in a snippy mood today

Not at all, just browned off to the back teeth with people who have absolutely nothing to do with london, and contribute nothing to it, telling us Londoners what 's right, whats wrong, and what to do with it,

That's you BTW nowheels, just in case you missed the invective. ;)
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Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - NowWheels
Not at all, just browned off to the back teeth with people who have absolutely nothing to do with london,
and contribute nothing to it, telling us Londoners what 's right, whats wrong, and what to do with it,


Where is it you live, TVM? Surrey?

I spend about five days a month there, which is about same as you do.
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Altea Ego
You are north of Watford NW, your visa is expired.
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Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Robin Reliant
I have very fond memories of Moggy Travellers (My first art
teacher), Robin Reliant (my tough, biker-mate's answer to winter and a
broken leg),


It is NOT a bleedin' Robin Reliant!!!!
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Altea Ego
>It is NOT a bleedin' Robin Reliant!!!!

Nice catch Mark



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Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - No FM2R
>>It is NOT a bleedin' Robin Reliant

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Of all the mistakes to make.................
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Robin Reliant
>>It is NOT a bleedin' Robin Reliant
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Of all the mistakes to make.................


Be such a shame if you can't get an internet connection from Luxemburg...
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Dynamic Dave
It is NOT a bleedin' Robin Reliant!!!!


Were the badges on the back reversed, thus some people making the mistake of what came first?

In the same way Cavalier was on the LHS of the boot / tail lid, and Vauxhall on the RHS.

IIRC, Ford used to do this with the name of the car as well.
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Lud
You know that's total rubbish NW.
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Lud
You know that's total rubbish NW.


Got separated from the post I was answering. I mean yr remark about double deckers, tourists and what a PITA the double decker is.

Garbaggio, m'dear.
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - sierraman
Not according to the Reliant O.C.-www.reliantownersclub.co.uk/reliants.html
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Manatee
For some reason minor celebs (i.e. non-celebs) who pretend to remeber them fondly always transpose Reliant and Robin - what they probably have in mind is Del Boy's van, which IIRC was a Reliant Regal van anyway, not a Robin.
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Pugugly {P}
But this surely proves the point. All models were quintessentially British but let's face it even in the halcion days of Corona, Omopower and Hovis they were er.....rubbish.
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Manatee
Reliants and Bonds were presumably spawned by a quirk of the licensing system post-war, when anyone with a motor bike licence could drive a 3 wheeler weighing 8cwt or less without taking a car test. Hence 3 wheels when 4 would clearly have been far better, fibreglass construction, and the general death of comforts. While they provided an answer to a problem they wee successful. When the number of people who could benefit diminished, they were relatively far too expensive to compete with 'proper' cars. My Dad always said Bond minicars were better, but I can't remember why, now.

The Minor was a terrific car - I learned to drive in one. Minis were amazing to drive compared to almost anything from the same era - no wonder it served paddy Hopkirk so well in 1964, notwithstanding it was designed for anything ut winning the Monte Carlo rally.
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Manatee
sorry, 'dearth' of comforts - makes sense either way :-)
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Pugugly {P}
I thought that.............! Reliant was the death of comfort. The only decent car from Reliant was the Scimitar, the proper version.
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Stuartli
>>My Dad always said Bond minicars were better, but I can't remember why, now.>>

IIRC, but may be incorrect, the Bond had the rear wheels wider apart, hence they were more stable.

I used to work in Preston (where the Bond originated) and, of course, you would see quite a few of them at the time.

My favourite was the Bug but, whilst some early Bugs were assembled at Preston, they were designed and built by Reliant, which had bought Bond; the majority were made at Tamworth.


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Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Lud
Bond Minicar was a ghastly device although it could be made to pirouette entertainingly with its hard-worked single front tyre squealing incessantly. Its whole engine, a sort of lawnmower thing, and transmission turned with the front wheel. The Bug, though more sophisticated and in one model capable of 90 mph (rather you than me, Squire) was similarly unstable. As for the three-wheeled Reliants, reliable and economical though they may have been, the less said the better. That anyone other than a urine-extracting foreigner can see one as a British icon beggars belief. I never watched that TV show featuring one, probably for that very reason. Simply couldn't understand why a cheeky-chappie lumpen entrepreneur would drive such a piece of carp, so found the whole thing irritating and silly.

However there was a British three-wheeler that worked well and had some competition success. That was the Aero Morgan and some of its variants. The best ones are the earliest, with a JAP V-twin in front of the (false) radiator.

Of course these lists are moronic, boring, and made up out of whole cloth by some ignorant twit.
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Stuartli
We have a Morgan dealership that is celebrating its 73rd year of dealing with the marque - Life's Motors - and Morgan owners come from far and wide to pay a visit.
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Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Robin Reliant
I did in fact own a Reliant, and I would have to question Lud's rather tart comments about a very fine car. They opened the doorway for many a motorcycle licence holder who had got fed up with getting cold and wet and they could be parked up without falling over. Admittedly, they could be induced to fall over whilst moving, but that had the benificial effect of encouraging respect for one's driving behaviour.

Back in the early seventies they were actually a bit of a babe magnet. I used to get lots of smiles from young ladies as I drove by, I obviously looked rather cool with my arm out the window and a Marlboro in my mouth.
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Lud
Tart, but not entirely condemnatory, TS. And nothing wrong with defending a widely-disparaged machine for which one has an abiding affection...

In my own case these devices include Citroen Bijou and Dyane,Alfa Romeo Arna, VW 411 and a whole row of Skoda Estelles.... I'm not a snob really.
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Avant
Surprisingly, about 45 posts before anyone mentioned Morgan (unless I missed it): I'm with you there Stuart.

Let's try a list of quintessentially British *cars* and see how far we get. I think I mean cars that made you feel proud to be British.

As per the original list -

Morris Minor - especially the Traveller

Mini (not MINI - nice as they are, they aren't British-designed

Aston Martins (most)

Others -

Morgans (most)

The series of 'Counties' Austins after the war - Devon, Dorset, Hampshire, Somerset, Hereford, Cambridge plus Westminster - much better than the competition in their day. My first ever car was an A50 Cambridge with an 'Austin of England' badge on each flank and that splendid flying-A mascot in your view as you drove

Pre-war Lagondas

Bentleys - some, especially the Mark VI

Rolls-Royces - mainly the pre-war ones when they really justified the 'best car in the world' tag

Riley RM - series, late 40s / early 50s

Bullnose Morris Oxford / Cowley


Sorry these are all old - but we all know the reasons why the British motor industry is pretty much confined to specialists (and long may they live) so I won;t go into then now.

What have I missed?

Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Lud
What have I missed?


Proper Rovers. Armstrong-Siddeley. Lea-Francis. Frazer Nash (especially chain drive). Talbot. Sunbeam. And a good few others. .. Daimler. Lanchester. Prewar Austin 16, 18 and 20 station taxis. Some Singers and Triumphs. Wolseley Hornet. etc etc etc. .. Agree with you about pre-BMC Rileys though. The 2.5 litre four-cylinder Riley engine powered various Healeys too.
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Avant
Yes, I should certainly have included the 'granny' Rover (the P4). I'm not sure that the 2000 was quite in the same league. If I'd been the age I am now in the 60s or 70s I'd have gone for a Triumph 2000 in preference.
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Lud
Yes, I should certainly have included the 'granny' Rover (the P4).
I'm not sure that the 2000 was quite in the
same league. If I'd been the age I am now
in the 60s or 70s I'd have gone for a Triumph
2000 in preference.


I would too. But we might have been wrong. Plod used the Triumph, the Rover 2000 and in those days Jaguar 3.4s and 3.8s... got pulled by some plod in one if those in a motorway service station somewhere in the sixties, can't remember why but nothing came of it.
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Stuartli
>>(unless I missed it): I'm with you there Stuart.>>

In fairness I was responding to Lud...:-)

By the way the Morgan garage I mention has been in the same family since it was founded.

I can't, at the moment, find the local newspaper story about it.
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Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - AngryJonny
Have I missed it or has no-one yet mentioned the Jaguar E-Type?

(one and possibly only thing it has in common with the Reliant Robin being people's tendancy to get the manufacturer and model the wrong way round)
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Pugugly {P}
But the whole concept is flawed, which is why the article is daft. A Citroen is quintessenttllay French - despite the fact they built some in Slough they are still quintessentially French. Every British made and designed car is by definition quintiesstially British, the current crop isn't. Hondas are still quintesentially Japanese despite being made in Swindon as are Nissans and Toyotas. They build Double Deckers in China, they are probably quintessentially Chinese not British. Stupid survey.
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Altea Ego
But it can be "An E Type Jaguar" or " A Jaguar E Type"
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Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Lud
Anyway the E-type was mentioned, and was by no means the 'classic' that the XK120 was, or as good-looking. The brakes must have been a big improvement though.

Never really liked the thing myself.
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Screwloose

Umm... Why has nobody mentioned the poor old Land-Rover? Although it may have started as a copy of the war-time Jeep; it grew into a lot of unique variants - surely it became different enough to consider it as British? The styling has certainly stood the test of time. Then, of course, there's the Range Rover....
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Lud
Quite right screwloose. Why weren't PU and mm standing up for the Land Rover?

It was never a copy of the Jeep, just of the idea. It was a far more sophisticated vehicle than a Jeep, and far more expensive. Great thing about the real Jeep was its total starkness, like a model T Ford.
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - mrmender
calm down Lud.... you may have to use that 'C' word if your not careful!
Quite right SL the Landrover has been unfairly over looked
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - El Hacko
Ford Anglia, and its 'poor man's" version the Popular
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Tornadorot
With all this nostalgia for "Robin Reliants" and milk floats etc, I'm faintly surprised the AC Invacar isn't there.... :-)
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Robin Reliant
I'm going to change my user name to Robin Reliant. It's quite catchy.
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Robin Reliant
There, I've done it.
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Lud
What exactly are you reliant on, Robin? The weather?
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - madf
I drove a convertible Minor: axle tramp and all. Carp build - doors never fitted properly.
Rover P4? yes had 3. Cheap transport.. heavy steering.

MGB? horrible heavy steering and no go.

Mini? rusty relics. I had 3 travellers: wood rotted and they rusted...

Nostalgia rules ko.. Would not drive any of them now...
madf
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Lud
Saloon Minor of course much stiffer than floppy convertible. First Minor 1000 with one piece windscreen was the off the peg hotshoe special of its day, could be flung about by drivers willing to work at it. And the doors fitted too.

Same sort of thing could be said for the Mini whose FWD handling was a revelation in its day and also lent itself to enterprising driving especially but not only in Cooper and S variants (the 1071 engine was the best).But oh that jeepish gearbox noise... almost worth having straight cut gears just for the excuse.

But cars wore out much more quickly in those days and rust usually got them in the end. Of course rough old ones are horrible, but even now one wdn't mind a properly sorted 1400cc 5-speed Mini roller-skate in suitably shabby livery, to deal with the sort of flash characters you get on the road these days....

I have nothing good to say of the MGB having never to my memory even been in one, nothing bad either except I never fancied one although an ex-works MGC racer, green with a yellow nose and presumably with proper front dampers, used to look tempting in the Motor Sport small ads where it stayed for years.
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - The Lawman
I'm sure there is someone on here who knows for sure, but am I not right in thinking that the quintessentially british Morris Minor was actually "heavily influenced" if not a direct copy of an earlier US car, possibly a Packard?
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Lud
First post-war Minor was an Issigonis design, sidevalve small engine, split windscreen, low-set headlamps and last but not least torsion bar front end. A sweet little good-handling car without the power to get into trouble, my aunt had one for years.

I seem to remember though that the name had been used before the war perhaps. However I doubt if any small Morris could have been a copy of a Packard. One's very soul revolts against the idea. But perhaps the front-end styling of the immediate post-war Morris 8, sort of curved back thing, might have come from somewhere. However no Packard styling cues of any description.
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - DP
Tiff Needell once said on Top Gear that a Morris Minor on a wet roundabout is a near perfect introduction to the joys of RWD handling.
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Pugugly {P}
Yep - cut my teeth on one, wouldn't want anything else now.
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Sofa Spud
My family had a Morris Minor Traveller when I was young. I did much of my early driving in the thing. I have fond memories of that uncomfortable, noisy, unreliable and badly put together car!
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Pugugly {P}
But at least you learnt a lot fixing it !
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - bell boy
like what? colourful language? ;)
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Pugugly {P}
First Aid was my thought !
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Avant
"I seem to remember though that the name had been used before the war perhaps"

Yes - there was a Morris Minor in the early 1930s - a rival to the box-type Austin 7. It was replaced by the Morris 8 about the time the the 7 became the Ruby (with that lovely tinkling starting-handle). There was even a Mnor convertible, complete with sidescreens.
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Lud
There was a thirties Morris 8 tourer - there must have been a saloon too - that a lot of schoolmaasters and such had at the end of the second world war and for a few years on... Two masters at my school in Ceylon had them, one phptographed standing on its nose in a small river and afterwards still usable. Other masters had Matchless and AJS motor bikes good for following puffing 8-year-olds on gruelling cross-country runs.
Moggy Minor - the most british vehicle - Avant
I was at school in Sussex in the late 50s / early 60s and most of ours had Austin 7s: later on ther were a cvoupoe of Morris 8s. The headmaster - one of the great prep school headmasters of that generation - had a terrific 1939 Rolls-Royce Silver Wraith. Typically of him, he cherished it as a classic but realised its value as what we would now call a people-carrier.
 

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