is anyone bothered?
btw, its strongly rumoured they are keeping the K-series in its original form (SAIC that is).
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I am - my local council is going to pour my council tax money into Longbridge, just to buy a few votes. Hopefully it will backfire on them.
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And what's all this about an American MG? I bet it will be at least 15ft long with a 4 litre V8!
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And Shanghai Automotive are welcome to the K-series - hopefully it will wreck their business like its reputation for HGF helped wreck Rover.
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Everytime a thread like this is posted, god kills a kitten. I hope you're happy.
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Everytime a thread like this is posted, god kills a kitten. I hope you're happy.
I hope that God is happy about having such a dysfunctional lack of control over his/her temper.
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news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/5173028....m
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news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/5173028....m
Nanjing's MG president and chief executive, Duke Hale, said: "We're positioning ourselves as a global car. Our position is to try to create a world-class car in a world-class company."
Barf. That term "world-class" gets very annoying.
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as long as he does not run of kittens and turn to balck labrador puppies I dont care.
I am getting browned off with all these "back from the dead MG" fairy tales tho. There have been more of these written than there are barbera cartland novels.
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I am getting browned off with all these "back from the dead MG" fairy tales tho. There have been more of these written than there are barbera cartland novels.
Yes, but the Barbara Cartland novels were nowhere near as imaginative and fantasic as these fairytales.
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The k series seems ok in Lotus cars and in many caterhams etc. Apparently the cooling is better in these cars.
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err no, ask the lotus owners.
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Well I worked in a Rover service department and the only time I saw problems with K-series engines were lack of use, servicing and general abuse.
We had a 214 runaround which got thrashed to the limit and never missed a beat in 100,000 miles.
We just serviced it as per schedule and when we changed it, there was about 170k on the clock still going strong.
This wasnt an isolated case either, many of them were just as good.
Plenty of low mileage ones with loadsa problems though, prob why Lotus Elise's which dont do huge mileages generally, have issues with them.
I wouldnt hesitate in buying a Rover with a K-series if it had been well serviced and had done a reasonable annual mileage.
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I drove (Austin) Rovers for 20 years until the headgasket went on my Rover 100 (Metro).
I did about 10K a year and always kept an eye on the coolant. It didn't help though.
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But it's a level playing field. On average the K-series and its derivatives are more likely to suffer HGF in any application (Freelander) than other engines however they are all treated out there.
The Chinese are welcome to it - this rotten engine has cost too many people a lot of money.
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Story does not make sense:
we are going to build in US: OK
We are going to build in China: OK
We have stripped all the production equipement out of the UK. We are going to build in the UK.
You can fool all of the people some of the time etc.
If they WANT to build cars in the uK, why strip the plant out?
Only the credulous and easily fooled need reply:-)
madf
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err no, ask the lotus owners. ------------------------------
I did the other weekend at Cadwell park. Several Elise owners. No problems reported.
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I know three, all have had HGF.
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Early or late,engine was not the problem.Cooling system was/is,better placement of thermostat with bypass would do this engine a great deal of good....something not mentioned so far and mods made to certain cars got rid of problem.
If this engine is going to be brought back,I think they would have sorted the cooling side out where Rover went only halfway in doing so!
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They talk of bringing the K series back for a 'US market' MG. ISTR that Lotus had to replace the K with the Toyota engine specifically because the K series could not pass US emission regs. Do the Chinese have some super tech way of fixing this problem then?
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>>Do the Chinese have some super tech way of fixing this problem then?
Strangely enough I suspect they will,Not forgetting Rovers would not invest any further in this engine as they did not have the money,Chinese will make the most of a good unit-unlike us
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I actually used to work with some of the people who designed the K-series (over 20 years ago now!).
One of the snags with the cooling system is the tiny amount of space for coolant around the cylinders. Even the Chinese will struggle to fix that - unless they redesign the engine!
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>>One of the snags with the cooling system is the tiny amount of space for coolant around the cylinders. Even the Chinese will struggle to fix that - unless they redesign the engine!
Aprilia,thats been known for as long as I remember the K-series.But nothing to say the chinese will not rectify,Ok it will take a few bob to correct, but doubt they would take it on if they knew it was going to be a failure,and knowing its name over here, would have thought they would improve it.
Having said that,I suppose its their problem if it fails due to its bad name here
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According to the Sunday Papers
The MG plant in the USA will be built on a piece of land in an Indian Reservation.
The question is about improving quality.
Does this ensure that the cars will not be built be cowboys?.
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Wonderful! made my day :-)
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ISTR that Lotus had to replace the K with the Toyota engine specifically because the K series could not pass US emission regs. Do the Chinese have some super tech way of fixing this problem then?
MG-R were working on EU IV compliant K-series engines when they went into receivership and some of them were very close to production. Having said that, I don't know how current US regs compare with EU IV....
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Stage IV is as severe as any US legislation but a vehicle designed to comply with US legislation would not necessarily pass St.IV just as a vehicle designed to pass St.IV would not necessarily pass US regs.The reason for this is that the legal drive cycles are totally different-they are supposed to represent average driving habits.
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they are talking about making component parts for the rover 25 and 45 to deliver to x-part.
the 25 makes sense as there are alot on Britians roads.
but the 45?
surely not.
my source is ex-rover dealer who is now a kia franchise but keeps on the 'loop'.
apparently their are no rover 25 central locking motors in the country - he has a list of ten people waiting to pick one up as soon as available.
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