Blown turbos yesterday - Aprilia
Coming back from Hull yesterday I saw two Diesel cars with failed turbo's. First one was an '06 registered BMW (ouch!) with a massive trail of blue-black smoke behind it.
Then, amazingly enough, about 20 miles later saw a newish (05 reg IIRC) Mazda6 Diesel trailing a load of smoke behind it...!
Blown turbo's yesterday - Pugugly {P}
Misfueled ?
Blown turbo's yesterday - Aprilia
Misfuelling wouldn't normally cause this kind of catastophic failure. The BMW, in particular, was throwing out masses of smoke, the driver can't have been unaware and was an idiot for pressing on with it. I guess it would be a warranty repair though...
Blown turbo's yesterday - frazerjp
Sounds like somebody hasn't been simmering their turbo before switching off after a long journey me thinks.
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Its not what you drive, its how you drive it! :-)
Blown turbo's yesterday - Screwloose
Aprilia

Can't say that I've done many '06 Beemers; but the Mazda 6 has a big issue with prematurely-failing high-pressure pumps.

Never seen any difference in the longevity of turbos whether simmered or not. Oil quality/changing appears to be the biggest factor.
Blown turbo's yesterday - cheddar
Never seen any difference in the longevity of turbos whether simmered >>


That contradicts everything I have come across in 21 years of turbo motoring (I had an '83 Metro Turbo in 85).

About 15 years ago I was following a 524td down a German autobahn when the turbo blew, masses of smoke and it seemed like bits of metal were coming out from under the car, I guessed turbo at the time though could have been engine failure.

Re the BMW and Mazda, if going in the same direction they could have both filled at the same station from a dodgy batch, water or petrol in the diesel .....

.... or it could be an outing by the local branch of the "lets run our cars on used chip fat" brigade.
Blown turbo's yesterday - Happy Blue!
Some people may remember my MiL's Merc E320CDi which stopped driving properly.

It got fixed recently, but a hose came off the intercooler pipe so not enough air got into the engine. The car was throwing loads of black smoke, nut runs sweetly now the hose has been re-attached.

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Blown turbo's yesterday - Roger Jones
What was the final fault diagnosis when it was fixed?
Blown turbo's yesterday - Happy Blue!
Good question!

The mechanic has not told my Mother-inLaw, what he has done, becuase she has not seen him yet. She brought the car to Manchester last week, from London and it was during the drive that the pipe came off.

I took the car to my mechanic, who looked at it and it seemed to have had a new turbo fitted and I think a new ECU. But I not convinced the ECU was the problem. Given the lack of driving the car has had, it could easily have been the turbo.

Anyway it now acclerates like a rocket and does 35mpg around town to boot. I've just sold it to my secretary's boyfriend for £9,250.
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Espada III - well if you have a family and need a Lamborghini, what else do you drive?
Blown turbo's yesterday - wemyss
Some years ago when Diesel Car magazine was in its infancy there was a two page article on turbos, mainly interviewing the technical expert from the leading UK firm who recondition them.
He was asked the question about whether turbo diesels should be allowed to simmer for a period to allow the oil to cool.
He didn?t seem too impressed or emphatic that they should, and when pressed he said well it might be necessary if you were towing a caravan up long steep hills and stopped at the top. But generally there was really no need.
His emphasis was more on having a good quality oil changed regularly and he expected that with this regime most turbos would last the life of the car.
Having said that I do it myself but then again I don?t walk under ladders and am always very wary on Friday the 13th.
Blown turbo's yesterday - Carrow
I sold a turbo over the counter some weeks ago, I told the customer to read & digest the information booklet supplied but he didn't seem interested. He didn't even want to buy a new oil filter & oil!!
Blown turbo's yesterday - Lud
Diesels do blow turbos. A friend's Land Rover Discovery did at 8000 miles. He is a press-on driver who doesn't simmer, but he had lent the car to someone who returned it with 2000 more miles on it and a muddy towrope in the back, so perhaps it had been abused in some other way.

I would say, better safe than sorry.

The new C4 turbodiesel I drove the other day has the turbo right at the front in the airstream, covered with a heatshield plate with a very big don't touch logo - a formalised image of a hand with a diagonal line through it. This shield, coloured silver, was putting out massive amounts of heat just from pootling about in traffic.
Blown turbo's yesterday - ziggy
Some years ago when Diesel Car magazine was in its infancy
there was a two page article on turbos, mainly interviewing the
technical expert from the leading UK firm who recondition them.
He was asked the question about whether turbo diesels should be
allowed to simmer for a period to allow the oil to
cool.


Diesel turbos do not run to the extreme temperatures petrol turbos do.
Blown turbo's yesterday - Bagpuss
I had a Mercedes C250TD as a hire car a few years ago. At high speed on the autobahn I suffered a sudden power loss and the trail of black smoke behind me signalled an apparent catastrophic failure. I pulled over and called the breakdown service, who appeared and spotted that the pipe between the turbo charger and the inlet manifold had become disconnected and reinstalled it with a jubilee clip. Problem solved!

On another occasion I had a similar thing happen with a Mondeo TD (old series and a truly awful vehicle with the diesel engine). On this occasion I took the car back to the rental company and used it as an excuse to swap it for something else.
Blown turbo's yesterday - Aprilia
The Mazda I saw was throwing out black smoke, so it could have been the feed pipe from the turbo. The smoke from the BMW was a 'blue-black' however, so I think his turbo had definitely gone - there was lots of oil being burnt in there!
Blown turbo's yesterday - Hamsafar
We saw a newish BMW 530d pouring blue smoke today.
Blown turbo's yesterday - mfarrow
We saw a newish BMW 530d pouring blue smoke today.


I was in a Vectra doing the exact same thing :-)

We were going up a moderate motorway incline at 70mph on the M5 when the engine note changed and blue/black smoke started pouring from the back. Pulled over and waited 2 hours for a 70 mile tow home. We were carrying some luggage and 3 bicyles on a carrier, do you think the extra load caused the failure? It had been burning oil since the driver got it (1 litre every 2000 miles).

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Mike Farrow
Blown turbo's yesterday - boxsterboy
Failure of the EGR valve would also cause excessive black smoke.
Blown turbo's yesterday - jc2
If it failed open.
Blown turbo's yesterday - Hamsafar
Looks like emmission control systems may give such bad emmissions on 1 car for every 10 which are improved, which negates the net benefit.
Blown turbo's yesterday - mfarrow
I was in a Vectra doing the exact same thing :-)


... which turned out to be a hose on the turbo coming off, which was a little dissappointing as he had to pay £95 for a tow to the garage and 1/2 hour dealer time, instead of paying just 10% for the parts under Warranty Direct!

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Mike Farrow
Blown turbo's yesterday - jc2
I don't know about other makes but all turbo-charged Fords(petrol & diesel)are fitted with oil coolers(usually oil/water).