A friend is about to buy one. An underpowered shed or highly ecnomical modern car ?
I'm trying to persuade him to go for a 2.0litre
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Big car, small engine - bound to be underpowered. I'd rather go for the 1.5 dCi 108 bbhp Scenic that has been discussed than a 1.6 petrol in a zafira.
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Yes it's underpowered, 2 years ago we tried the 1.8 then 2.0 DTI and finally 1.6.Opted for the Diesel but the 1.8 was just as good, you could sense just how much the 1.6 wouls struggle when the car was loaded.
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For most cars, if you can afford it, the bigger engine is nearly always worth it and usually not much thirstier, as it needs less acceleration to maintain a decent pace.
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For most cars, if you can afford it, the bigger engine is nearly always worth it and usually not much thirstier, as it needs less acceleration to maintain a decent pace.
That was the theory when I bought the 1.8 Focus. How wrong I was! (Still love it though)
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How do you mean Alastair?
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Sorry. It just made sense.
Ignore me!
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Depends what you want or how you drive it. My new model 1.6 petrol Zafira was delivered in January to replace a 1.9dci Megane diesel, so of course I was worried about a lack of oomph. It was doing about 35mpg when engine was new & very tight & overtaking took some judgment after a turbo diesel. Now as the engine loosens up it just gets better & better (the rest of the vehicle is light years ahead of the old Megane anyway) and I often see 41mpg in mixed driving. After a diesel that didn't like sub-1800 revs in top I'm amazed how flexible the 1.6 Ecotec petrol engine is - you very rarely need to change out of top, even at sub-30mph speeds. OK, traffic light sprints aren't its forte but once on the move & for overtaking I'm more than happy with the engine which revs beautifully & more importantly so smoothly after the Renault diesel thumper.
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You have just got used to it. If you drive another car and go back to it you will realise its a shed!
The 1.6 should be banned as a safety hazzard.
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TourVanMan TM < Ex RF >
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Of course TVM, you've driven my Zafira haven't you?.... I knew I shouldn't have mentioned the Renault but it was pants by the end! Also absolutely nothing is broken or has failed / dropped off on the Zafira - unlike your Touran I believe.
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Hey watch it
Nothing repeat Nothing has fallen off.
MInd you nothing works tho. Its all there it just dont work.
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TourVanMan TM < Ex RF >
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He's downsizing from an old shape Vectra estate 2.5 (or 6), I thin he'll find it a bit flat. Thanks Victorbox for the comments. Thanks TVM for the laugh.
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I find SWMBO's 1.8 Zafira fairly nippy around town, too low geared for maotorways; not much difference around town between the Zafira and our old 2.5 Omega. I would think that the 1.6 zafira will feel very flat after a veccy V6 though.
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Driven quite a few 1.6 zafiras and I was quite surprised how well they went. At the time my own car was a 3.0 audi A4, and I found teh various zafiras I had on hire quite fun to drive. Unfortunatly I only drove them around with myself in or maybe one other so I cant comment for how they would go loaded up, but I liked them.
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listen - the only thing that goes quickly on a 1,6 zafira is the spare wheel to the local car boot sale
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TourVanMan TM < Ex RF >
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Funny you should mention that - I was behind (a rather shedy)one today it was minus it's spare wheel.....(cradle dangling)
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Vx can supply a locking kit to prevent this happening.
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I'll make sure he gets one ! (thanks)
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My father and step-mother have one - and I've driven it one-up - lots of stirring of the stick to keep it on the boil. Loaded with kids, dog and luggage it'd struggle to keep up, IMHO, and the fuel consumption would not be pretty.
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