To match the ride comfort of your C5 It needs to be French.
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TourVanMan TM < Ex RF >
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Short of buying a S class or Lexus LS430 with air suspension, I'd recommend sticking with the C5. For the money, nothing can touch it on ride quality.
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I'll be honest and say that I've never driven a C5.
But for space, economy and absolute comfort (as well as being the finest looking car on the road IMHO) a Chrysler 300C CRD would be well worth a test drive.
MTC
p.s. I'm biased, I've got one and I love it.
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300Cs are smooth, but C5 ride quality is in a league of it's own until you get into super luxury money..
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Oh happytorque, the other car I was going to suggest is the Cadillac Seville STS (the one Vauxhall sold as RHD a few years back). Those cars rode extremely softly, and made something like an E class (which has got a smooth ride) feel like it's riding on solid rubber tyres...The major services are every 100k, and they have depreciated significantly.
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Rover 75? Only car I can drive 300 miles with no break and still get out feeling refreshed.
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4639999598 Bingo ! on E-bay
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"anyone got any recommendations"
Xantia HDi Exclusive !!!
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Phil
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cheers guys; pretty much what i had feared. Something French?....tried a 407...very hard compared to the C5. And ive never warmed to any Renaults im afraid. One thing i forgot to say is it will most likely need to be a new car, rather than 2nd hand. That kind of rules out the xantia ;o)...i wonder how long before the tasty C6 will be selling at half price secondhand though??!! That might be a possibility.
cheers, Trev
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IMHO the C6 will be half price in 2 years!
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300Cs are smooth, but C5 ride quality is in a league of it's own until you get into super luxury money..
Hi Nutty nissan
as I said in my OP, I've never driven a C5 so I can't do an honest comparison.
But I can tell you that after several 300 mile trips I've stepped out of my 300C refreshed and happy, and that I would have be ready to do an immediate return if it had been demanded of me.
Big comfy seats
Acres of space
suspension tuned for high speed long distance touring.
IMHO, got to be worth a test drive (just make sure you take a diesel though).
MTC
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Used Mercedes S320 CDI.
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Used Mercedes S320 CDI.
He has said he wants a new car, so that discounts anything from Mercedes unless he is prepared to pay a lot more money.
My wife and I were out in our C5 on Saturday and, as we are both approaching our 60s, I said to her that I wouldn't want any other car unless its comfort matched the C5. In addition, the HDI engine is smooth and quiet with plenty enough power for me. When it gets replaced, it will have to be something very similar.
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>> Used Mercedes S320 CDI. >> He has said he wants a new car, so that discounts anything from Mercedes unless he is prepared to pay a lot more money.
Is he insane? A used S Class will be a considerably better car in every way than a brand new Citroen C5 and I'd imagine the running costs will be dwarfed compared to the thousands and thousands the C5 will shed in value the second he turns the key.
I'm no anti-Citroen person, I have fond my memories of my Xantia but damn, buying a brand new one, utter lunacy it really is.
Leave new cars for people who don't know any better and people spending other peoples money and get yourself a quality car :)
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Do you know something, I agree 100% with that.
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Is he insane? A used S Class will be a considerably better car in every way than a brand new Citroen C5 and I'd imagine the running costs will be dwarfed compared to the thousands and thousands the C5 will shed in value the second he turns the key. I'm no anti-Citroen person, I have fond my memories of my Xantia but damn, buying a brand new one, utter lunacy it really is.
What do you think the maintenance costs of an S Class would amount to then? Are Mercedes spares reasonably priced?
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It has been mentioned many times on this forum, that a car is the sum of many parts, and you are assessing the C5 solely on it`s undeniably excellent ride, which I would agree has no others peers within it`s price range.
You are however overlooking the shoddy build quality, crass interiors, and dodgy electrics and why they feature close to the bottom of all the reliability surveys, which is why I would never consider buying one.!!!!
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It has been mentioned many times on this forum, that a car is the sum of many parts, and you are assessing the C5 solely on it`s undeniably excellent ride, which I would agree has no others peers within it`s price range. You are however overlooking the shoddy build quality, crass interiors, and dodgy electrics and why they feature close to the bottom of all the reliability surveys, which is why I would never consider buying one.!!!!
I don't agree about the crass interiors, as my wife and I find ours to a very pleasant change from the dull as ditchwater black and grey interiors found in most of the competition. I spent a fair amount of time in a Mondeo taxi whilst on holiday and found the interior of that to be very dull.
I would agree that Citroen launched the C5 without making sure it was properly sorted.
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I'll be honest and say that I've never driven a C5. But for space, economy and absolute comfort (as well as being the finest looking car on the road IMHO) a Chrysler 300C CRD would be well worth a test drive. MTC p.s. I'm biased, I've got one and I love it.
The Chrysler is not in the same price range. The discounts on the Chrysler are only around £500 on drivethedeal.com, whereas there is almost £5k off the price of the top spec C5, making a price difference of over £8k.
So its no contest, unless price is not a consideration.
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The Chrysler is not in the same price range.
fair comment Machika
but as the OP did not mention a price budget, the only other car that he mentioned was a friends 55 plate 5 series, and his criteria was comfy seats and a plush soft ride, I thought that my opinion was (and is) valid.
MTC
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Has the reliability been sorted on C5s now?
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The ride on an Accord with the standard 16" wheels is excellent, silky smooth tho probably not up to the C5. You'd hate the 17" wheels though, don't even consider them.
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The problem we have is that nothing, simply nothing, this side of an expensive Mercedes or possibly a Lexus, will ride as well as a hydro Citroen.
So, if he wishes to match his current ride quality, he must either buy another C5, or buy something like an S Class.
I think the ride in my Mondeo is fine, and had I not owned a Xantia, I might well be posting 'Check the Mondeo the ride is fine'.
But once you've driven a hydraulic Citroen, you realise the ride is several leagues above fine - it is simply astounding and no conventional system comes close.
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well, some interesting views there, some i concur with, some are very wide of the mark. I know that the C5 has a superb ride, i just wondered whether there was anything else out there where comfort took priority over the need for it to handle like its on rails. From the comments received it looks like my next car will have to be another C5. The main (only ?) problem with the C5 is its poor image, compounded by the views of those people who dont know the first thing about these unique cars. Most of the people who slag them off have never even driven one. We are told that they have poor interiors; this simply isnt true...they are a match for anything at this price level. Its the only car ive ever owned thats never creaked or rattled. Ive tried a Mondeo..not bad , but not a patch on the C5.
Has the reliabilty been sorted? Ive done 40,000 miles in my 2.0HDI and it never gives trouble. Its more reliable than my old Nissan. Popular opinion would suggest that the Nissan should have been more reliable; but it wasnt. If the only alternative is an S class, i think it will need to be another C5
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Having read a test on the C6 (in Autocar) I would venture that this is the only car that would match a C5.
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Would a Pug 607 do the job?
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Here we go again......
I'm just coming up to 60,000 miles from new in my C5 (2.2 HDI - arguably the very best engine option of all C5s) It had a few problems early on (it's a 2001 build - one of the first off the line) These were all taken care of under warranty.
So what has fallen off or doesn't work 100% properly at 60,000 miles? Nothing, zilch! Everything operates exactly as it did the day it came out of the showroom.
Cost of maintenance so far? Apart from the standard servicing costs - nothing, zilch! I have not paid a penny for out of warranty repairs because it hasn't needed any!
Yes, the suspension is superb. The 2.2 HDI is completely reliable, gutsy, smooth as cream - yet still economical.
Yes - they depreciate like a stone - if you're daft enough to sell them young. Look after them though and keep until they have depreciated to the same as other makes and they give excellent value for money - especially considering the generous cashback deals that Citroen always have.
Why not consider a 1-2 year old C5 - with balance of manufacturer's warranty?
Citroens don't break - ignorant people break them.
Graeme
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Firstly, even in a C5 you should take regular breaks. You may feel comfortable but your mind needs a rest.
Secondly, I've not found a car as good as my C5. I'd buy another, but am more likely to look for a used C6!
The interior build quality is fine, nothing has dropped off the outside either. Running costs are average. Fuel economy is good. Engine is quiet and many people still question if it is a diesel.
Show me a car that is big, comfy, economical, cheap to buy, understated, low insurance and generously equipped. I'll show you my C5.
Ben
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I like the C6 ! but would need to be convinced to pay 30k for it, Autocar raved about it.....
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Me too Pugugly, I think it?s an awesome looking car. I?ll be interested in seeing what they go for in a couple of year?s time.
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i too like the look of the C6....hopefully they will be half price in about 18 months time...just spread the word that they are rubbish and we can pick up a bargain before too long. Im worried though as the press keep saying how good the C6 is. We cant have that.... before we know whats happening, these things will be holding their value and that would never do would it?!
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These C6 things are rubbish !
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Very true...ive heard they are pants!
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NO, No, no. I've heard that they are absolutely fantastic as a brand new purchase but absolute rubbish as a 2/3yr old second hand buy. Do not go for one second hand.
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Phil
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This discussion has freed my mind. I'm going to go test drive a C5. I love the pillow soft ride of luxury cars, but can't afford to buy a S class (yet)!!
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I'm never going to buy one but I too am going to try and get a go in a C5 just to see what all the fuss is about.
I'm sure my mate's Dad has one.
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Dad's mate not mate's Dad!
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Do they do a C5 in beige Adam ?
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I've seen a new one in a champagny colour.
Who knows what next year will bring...
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"beige"
Sable Gold - very similar to the Sahara Gold in which livery the Berlingo looks so fetching (even if it does does say beige on the V5!!)
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Phil
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