Now I know none of us will actually have driven them (though I could be wrong), but I do have several questions about the nature of them:
a)Which is likely to be more reliable?
b)Which will hold it's value better?
c)Is Peugeot servicing cheaper than Renault, typically?
I ask because in July/August I may be considering the pair as Focus-replacements. I'd be considering the 207 HDi (90) Sport and the Clio Dynamique dCi (86). With the reported increases in size I don't think the practicality would be hit too hard. I'd want it to be cheap and easy to run as possible (cheap servicing, best residuals, most reliable).
For that matter I'd also possibly consider the FIAT Grande Punto 1.3 M-Jet Dynamic (90). So apply the above to this one too if you have any knowledge...
Thanks,
J.
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My thoughts on the Clio as follows:
www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?f=2&t=35...1
a) Pass. It's the quality of your dealer that will be important.
b) I would say the Peugeot. IMHO Renault have over priced their Clio.
c) I don't think so.
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I'm driving the 207 on Thursday,but if it was my money it would be none of the above,but thats not what you asked.
Will report back about 207.
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Well what would you have then T? Keeping in mind that it's a £12k max budget, and has to be new in keeping with the company policy.
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Something from Honda or Toyota and if its for business use i would contract hire with a maintenence package for 12 or 24 months.Somewhere like Lings Cars.
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It's a contract that basically state's they'll pay me £3,000 in car allowance, but that I need a car that is no more than 6 years old. Apparently (though I never read this in the contract) the car is supposed to be new at the beginning of the contract (which is a bit of an odd clause in imho, but apparently it's to show that the car allowance is being used for it's intended purpose to the powers that be). I plan to keep the car for the 6 years, I'll be doing an estimated 15,000 miles a year, and want to keep the other costs as low as poss. Hence why I chose those superminis.
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It'd be a toss up between the 207 and the Punto for me- the new Clio doesn't grab me at all, just looks too flabby, slabby and bland. I'd have to drive the other 2 to be sure, as on paper I simply can't decide between them. The Punto looks fab, but has a cheaper interior and the 207 seems to have a nicer inside and will probably drive better but doesn't look as good.
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I've been driving a Clio Dynamique S dCi (86) since the end of March. The only thing I can say is wrong with it is the inside door handles are too far away (near the hinge). They need a grab handle near the lock.
The car drives great and its sometimes easy to forget you're in a deisel. It's much bigger than the old Clio - both inside and out.
I can't really answer your questions as we've only had it for 6 weeks, but if you get a decent spec then I think it would sell on easilly.
A point to note is that the 86BHP Clio is in a lower tax band than both the 106BHP and 68BHP versions. It also has better fuel economy (according to Renault).
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T Lucas!!
I am Ling! Thanks for very kind words.
You know, on contract hire OLD model Clio is very cheap, as is Citroen C4 and Picasso. I don't see many of those other small cars.
Just about every car is euro-standard these days, if you rent for just 2 or 3 years you will hardly have any servicing to do if you drive sensibly (do oil and filter at any VAT reg garage, use dealers for warranty). I would go for the bigger cars above. Picasso especially does it's job well.
Ling
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All three of these cars are new models. I'd avoid them until they have been in production at least 18 months so any major problems are ironed out. If the 207 has as many problems as my neighbour's 307 (which he bought just after launch) you will soon develop a very personal relationship with your dealer, but your 207 won't put many miles on in the first couple of years as it will be sat in a dealership being fixed.
I'd be looking at something from Japan or Germany.
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