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And by the way: I've always found the title 'two Jags' very sympathetic, although it wd be better if one of them was a beautifully-preserved C Type.
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>>that I don't really think JP's legover moments are any of anyone's business,>>
You seriously overlook the hypocrisy of someone who, along with many others of his party, attacked the former Government on the grounds of sleaze.
That includes sexual scandels.
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Point taken Stuartli. I'd forgotten about that.
However a fairly heavy dose of public hypocrisy is one of the basic qualifications for a minister (cf. Kinnochio pretending to approve of being busted for speeding).
People might say: if he cheats on his missus he might cheat on the nation. LOL! Truth of the matter is, being a professional cheat on the nation might have made it easier to slip into cheating on the missus.
Sad business though. I can't rejoice about these things unless I really loathe the individual concerned, and I don't in this case. I find his verbal stumbles and losses of temper endearing rather than otherwise.
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>>I find his verbal stumbles and losses of temper endearing rather than otherwise.>>
No doubt do many others.
But remember that the person concerned - and many of his his colleagues come to that - have the gigantic responsibility of setting the country's future agenda because of their power, yet have never really experienced the real world of you and I.
I don't count working as a ship's steward as being in the real world...:-)
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We are in danger os sliding into politics here Stuartli, but I will risk contending that while these people wield great power, they don't really 'have' power because they are very restricted in the ways they can exercise it. Remember that apart from the party funders they have industry, the city, Europe, the media red, blue and yellow, the stroppy GBP and last but not least, shudder, Washington sitting on their necks like the old man of the sea. Have you never wondered why five years in office make even a young whippersnapper like Blair age 20 years, and 10 years in office make him look like the living dead? Same for Mrs T in her day. They want the job - the 'power' - but fun it isn't.
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As illustrated in today`s Sunday Press our "Two Jags" will in future be known by something that rhymes with Jags ....
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>>will in future be known by something that rhymes with Jags>>
That's been doing the rounds for a few days now...:-)
But perhaps it's not Two Jags's fault that he is so attractive to the ladies?
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"I wd add that I don't really think JP's legover moments are any of anyone's business, except his own and that of the lady and woman concerned"
Sadly, Lud, you are well wide of the mark here, unusually for you if I may say so.
The motorist concerned isn't just any one of us, however much he might like to pretend that he is: in the Order of Precedence in England and Wales he is right up near the top along with the archbishops et al, he is the ex officio deputy head of government and a Privy Counsellor to boot. As such, he represents the United Kingdom Government at the highest level both at home and abroad. so to take the line that JP's antics are "personal", as the Prime Minister so glibly suggests, and as you so kindly suggest, is very far from the case.
JP has succeeded in making HM Government, and us in the process, look very stupid, which is anything but "personal" in my view, quite apart from the sheer hypocrisy to which others have rightly referred.
For those of you who may never have ever been concerned with a government department at a high level, involvement of the nature at issue with a junior member of staff is regarded very seriously, rightly so, in view of the potential effect it has on other members of that department, both up and down the scale. That's all quite apart from any element of sexual harassment which might be involved, in this case, or any other.
I really do not mean to sound as prudish,pompous, or self-righteous as some of you may feel I am being, but I cannot accept that someone who has, for whatever reason, achieved such high office, and who has let us, himself, and his family, down so badly in the process, should not be excused as readily as some would suggest. There's only one decent thing for JP to do, but I really can't see him doing it without being pushed.
As for calling in Max Clifford, good for Tracey, because she must very quickly realised that the government spin machine would be brought to bear without any consideration for her situation.
Jack
PS Oh yes, I liked the car-toon!
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Oh God, of course the guy trod on his thingummy and probably won't survive in office.
Can't really agree about the doxy though. Didn't she and the bf blow the whistle?
Kiss and tell? Sh** and brag more like, about as low as you can get.
Best to keep it buttoned really. Even if you're a civilian.
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I enjoyed the cartoon, thanks.
Sorry that the thread is locked now...you all know why! :-)
smokie, BR Moderator
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