Rover saved? - Xileno {P}
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4739616.stm
Rover saved? - Altea Ego
Rover saved? - Chris S
No doubt Shanghai Automotive will want huge susidies to re-open Longbridge.

I can't see them getting them to produce obsolete Honda models with a major design fault (HGF) that nobody wants to buy.
Rover saved? - Xileno {P}
Even if they do start production, where are all the dealers to sell them?
Rover saved? - Pugugly {P}
Isn't this something to do with the Great Britain sportscar project ? I heard the Chinese were after £100m in capital before they would get involved.
Rover saved? - Xileno {P}
They shouldn't get a penny, doomed for failure IMHO. Look at DeLorean, cost the taxpayer a fortune.
Rover saved? - NowWheels
They shouldn't get a penny, doomed for failure IMHO. Look at
DeLorean, cost the taxpayer a fortune.


and at least the DeLorean project was a new design with some USPs, not a warmed-up fossil
Name-change time: NoWheels + Almera = NowWheels
Rover saved? - Xileno {P}
But no one wanted it. Basic rule of business is to provide a product or service that people want to buy.
Rover saved? - NowWheels
But no one wanted it. Basic rule of business is to
provide a product or service that people want to buy.


Eaxctly. My point was that DeLorean failed despite having a more desirable product than the leftovers of MG. This one doesn't even look as promising as the DeLorean dream :(
Name-change time: NoWheels + Almera = NowWheels
Rover saved? - kevin babij
At last!!!
Those optional extras we`ve all been waiting for.....
Chopstick holders
Pop out hot plate and a plug in electric wok.
Rover saved? - carl_a
But no one wanted it. Basic rule of business is to
provide a product or service that people want to buy.


Thats not really true, the build quality was dreadful which added to costs and the worst winter in the USA for many years had stopped car sales, all car sales not just DeLorean.
Rover saved? - Lud
and at least the DeLorean project was a new design with
some USPs, not a warmed-up fossil


Actually NW it was an ornate, overweight, undeveloped piece of flashy carp... Lotus were supposed to have helped with the suspension but actually seemed to get more involved in the financial jiggery-pokery when it came to it... Colin Chapman had a corner-cutting side.
Rover saved? - NowWheels
Actually NW it was an ornate, overweight, undeveloped piece of flashy
carp... Lotus were supposed to have helped with the suspension but
actually seemed to get more involved in the financial jiggery-pokery when
it came to it... Colin Chapman had a corner-cutting side.


Lud, I didn't say that the DeLorean was a good car, just that it had some USPs. It looked futuristic and attracted interest, whereas I don't see how the reborn can have much appeal beyond the Union Jack stickers they'll put on it.
Rover saved? - Collos25
That was an offer from some pie in the sky asset stripper to build the obsolete Smart coupe .
Rover saved? - oldgit
Even if they do start production, where are all the dealers
to sell them?


And who'll want to buy antiquated designs, if that's what they are. Badge engineering surely does not work any more, does it?

My local dealership was raized to the ground recently and quess what? Yes they're building yet more dwellings on the site. Soon the S.E of England will comprise housing only, with more and more people demanding ever diminishing supplies of gas and water etc.
Rover saved? - mare
I can't see them getting them to produce obsolete Honda models
with a major design fault (HGF) that nobody wants to buy.


The article refers only to the MGF. The only Honda based model was the 45 / ZS, and the last shells were scrapped. I suspect Honda has a say in whether or not they could produce 45's and let's face it, anyone without Longbridge tunnel vision can see that the 45 didn't cut it, so that's unlikely.

So, what will they produce?
Rover saved? - Xileno {P}
More interesting photos on the www.autin-rover.co.uk site.
Go to 'In Production' under 'Feature Galleries'.
Then 'Longbridge - after Nanjing'

Maybe some clever person can set up a link.
Rover saved? - SpamCan61 {P}
>>Maybe some clever person can set up a link

Try :- www.austin-rover.co.uk/index.htm?longbridgef.htm
Rover saved? - Sofa Spud
I think this Longbridge 'rescue' plan looks less impressive than any of the previous ones - Nationalisation, sale to British Aerospace, Honda link-up, purchase by BMW or even the sale by BMW!

The MG Rover models will possibly be able to be produced for the less sophisticated Chinese market for years, with occasional facelifts, and sold elsewhere as bargain basement imports. After all, the original VW Passat (Santana) is still made in China.
Rover saved? - Xileno {P}
I would have that red ZT V8, rusty brake discs or not.
I wonder why they don't break these part finished cars for spares, must be a value in doing that.
Rover saved? - Lud
Absolutely X, me too...
Rover saved? - Clanger
Doesn't look like much of a commitment from the Chinese; I heard on Radio 4 they can walk away after 6 months.
Hawkeye
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Stranger in a strange land
Rover saved? - jc2
Looks like the MG may go back into production but if this firm fails Ford has first refusal!
Rover saved? - bbroomlea{P}
Ford have first refusal for the Rover brand that is now up for sale from BMW. MG is totally separate and owned soley by NAC.
Rover saved? - Lud
'Brand' indeed!

Take the point which someone has made that a brand, a la BIMMER, is worth extra points.... but the real thing's calleed a marque or a make or anyway something along those lines. Hardly any left of course.
Rover saved? - mike hannon
Yes - it used to make me sick every time I looked at my lovely P6 V8 and thought of the bunch of wasters at Longbridge who hijacked the Rover name in what was nothing but a cynical marketing exercise that didn't even save them.
Rover saved? - mare
Actually thinking more about this, what have they leased? The land or the buildings?
Rover saved? - Lud
Er, a lot of dodgy looking back yards complete with new but trashwd Rovers according to the pix... but that was obviously propaganda of some weird sort. Bet there are hundreds of those yards though, literally... Used to go to Birmingham in my corporate days, oh yeah...
Rover saved? - Xileno {P}
MG TF will be 12 years old when it gets produced againin 2007. Apart from minor modifications and a switch from hydragas to coils, it's basically the same car as the 1995 MGF.

A twelve year old MG? I can't imagine a queue of customers.
Rover saved? - cheddar
Not Rover ...

... only MG. The Rover brand is owned by BMW and Ford have a contracted first refusal on it as part of the deal when they bought Land Rover.
Rover saved? - Collos25
As the Mayor of Birmingham said when the first car rolls off believe it.
Rover saved? - cheddar
Not Rover ...
... only MG. The Rover brand is owned by BMW and
Ford have a contracted first refusal on it as part of
the deal when they bought Land Rover.


Sorry, I kinda repeated a previous point.
Rover saved? - bradgate
A twelve year old MG? I can't imagine a queue of
customers.


Quite.

By the time Nanjing gets the MGTF back in the showrooms, the competition will have left it way behind. Mazda has the new MX5, and many european manufacturers are launching hard-top coupe cabriolets. The MGTF will seem an anachronism, and no-one will want one.
Rover saved? - mss1tw
Er, a lot of dodgy looking back yards complete with new
but trashwd Rovers according to the pix... but that was obviously
propaganda of some weird sort. Bet there are hundreds of those
yards though, literally... Used to go to Birmingham in my corporate
days, oh yeah...



What?
Rover saved? - mare

Thinking yet more about this, which is more plausible?

Scenario 1 - Chinese car firm leases huge car factory, builds much less cars than the factory's capacity at considerably higher labour cost than in it's home country, decides after 6 months whether or not they will carry on for another 32.5 years

Or

Scenario 2 - Chinese firm leases large plot of land in south Birmingham with good transport links. Spends 6 months consulting with planners and other parties, if gets good feedback, has 2.5 years to get planning, level site, maybe refurbish some of the older "historical" buildings and open new retail outlet / enterprise park with 30 year sub leases.

Think Great Western outlet village thingy at Swindon.
Rover saved? - Xileno {P}
I will eat my slippers if one new car rolls out of Longbridge.
Rover saved? - Adam {P}
www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?v=e&t=35...9

You'd have thought once would have been enough X ;-)