Many of you will probably have seen the BBC series 'Balderdash', where they enlist the public's help to update the origin and/or earliest printed occurance of words for the OED.
They are now looking for an earlier occurance of "bog-standard" than 1983.
Following the introduction of the RS1600 Escort in 1970 and the RS2000 in 1973, I remember reading in a car magazine (probably 'Custom Car'?) the gag about a spotty youth boasting he had a BS1100 Escort:'You mean RS, Rally Sport, don't you?', 'No, BS - Bog-Standard!' Boom-boom!
I doubt that that was as late as 10 years after the RS2000 made the RS series readily available to the public. Anyone else remember that, or better still, have the magazine?
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I remember my maths teacher at school using it in 1978, in Dublin. I doubt he invented it himself.
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I'm sure I remember my Dad talking about "bog-standard" this and that in the mid-late seventies when he was looking at new company cars.
I've always wondered why the base edition without the vinyl roof and the funny handles which make the windows go up and down when turned was referred to as "bog standard"...
BW,
CM
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I reckon I heard it in 1972.
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Found this definition in google -
Bog standard means something made to the Blueprint Original Graphic in reference to diazo print copies of draughtsmans design drawings. i.e the part is exact to drawing, which gradually became to mean "basic".
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They only acept the evidence though if its written down even though most words were used way before the evidence.
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i saw the first programme and thought it was "garbage" sorry........................... rubbish,,,,,,,,,:)
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\"a little man in a big world/\"
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I partly agree as the advert looked better than the program is.
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True. A very synthetic programme, with little real erudition and lots of made up excitement. Could have been so much better.
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Espada III - well if you have a family and need a Lamborghini, what else do you drive?
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True. A very synthetic programme, with little real erudition and lots of made up excitement. Could have been so much better. -- Espada III - well if you have a family and need a Lamborghini, what else do you drive?
Same as most programmes made in the last few years -- people's expectations are based on hype and froth rather than substance and as a result even worthy programmes like this can't escape the all-conquering numbness.
I blame the Renault Megane meself.
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'Balderdash & Piffle' - one of the few TV programs that lives up to its name!
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I always thought it was a corruption of box standard, referring to as it was when it came out of the box.
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What about being as standard as a toilet, isn't that what it means?
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I think it came into being in the reconstrucion of Germany after WW2. Blueprints were often labelled with "British or German" Standard for materials, or so goes the story...
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