Hi, clutch is slipping on my pug 405td 1996, is replacing the clutch a diy job or best left to a garage? any tips?
Cheers.
Duggie
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Expect to pay between £200 and £250 to have a replacement clutch fitted at a garage, the figures quoted for a new clutch in my 1994 306TD were in that range (assuming the 405 and 306 clutches are identical, which I think they are as its same engine/gearbox). Doing it yourself is possible depending on how handy you are with the spanners, but according to the haynes manual it's a pretty tough job, with the need to remove the transmission. The clutch kit costs around £100 so you're saving between £100-150 by DIY.
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Cheers Martin,
Started the job myself today, i have changed one before but that was a petrol 405. The diesel must have a larger gearbox which i believe means removing the front subframe to give the extra clearance needed (if anyone knows different let me know before i remove it tomorrow!!), other than that everything seems to be going ok, a few choice words and grazed knuckles but no major problems so far, just hope the rain holds off tomorrow.
By the way the clutch kit cost £99 and local garages quoted me £200--£250 for labour only.
Cheers Duggie
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The gearbox is the same BE3 unit used extensively by Pug / Citroen - only the internal ratios are differnt between different engines. You should be able to get it out without removing the subframe. The 405 might have the inside out pull clutch - check out the new one to see if the release bearing is attached to the clutch. If it is, you need to remove the clutch operating arm when you pull the box, so that the arm can rotate. When re-installing, make sure you position the arm in the correct place so that it engages with the release bearing. Make sure you test that it is properly engaged as soon as you have the box bolted back on the engine - you do not want to go all the way through to find the release fork has missed the bearing! If it does have the pull clutch, remove the operating arm from the bellhousing and lubricate (or preferably replace) the bushes it operates in. To make life a bit easier, instead of pulling the rubber cotter pin and removing the speedo cable, unbolt the housing it goes into on the gearbox (3 13mm bolts) - this is easier than removing the cable and makes a bit more room to get the box out. You will proably find that you need to rotate the box to get the final drive past the subframe, so it's much much easier with two people and a hoist, rather than trolley jacks. Make sure you replace the driveshaft oils seals, and refill the box with the proper Total gearbox oil - they don't seem to like anything else. The only other place you are likely to get stuck is getting the RH driveshaft bearing out of the housing - it rusts in. I understand there is a collar on the drive shaft, and you just have to welt this with a big hammer - it WILL come out eventually!
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RichardW
Is it illogical? It must be Citroen....
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Hi Richard, thanks for the reply, i finally fitted the clutch today, i decided to remove the subframe this gave more room, not sure if the gearbox would have came out if i hadnt, anyway the gearbox is back in situ and tomorrow everything else will be bolted back together (hopefully). The job isnt as bad as i first thought and its a nice feeling saving £200+!
Thanks again.
Duggie
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