I have just been pulled speeding - first time ever in 15 years and 20000 miles per year. On getting my documents out of the car I have just noticed that the MOT expired in 15th December. I bought the car on the 30th Jan last year and assumed it had a 12 month MOT - Very very wrong assupmtion as it turns out.
Can somebody please tell me what I should do.
Should I go to the police station and come clean. Obviously they will have heard all the excuses in the book.
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www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=35473&...f
Tony, above thread, although on a slightly different topic, has good advice from our resident expert, DVD, approx half way through the thread.
Basically, he advised there to own up, you may get a small additional fine but incur no extra points.
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We're assuming you've been asked to produce your docs - have you? Last time I got a speeding tickets all I got was a slip of paper there and then - don't remember getting a producer.
If they haven't asked to see anything, don't volunteer it!
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I have 7 days to produce my docs
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Have you been reported for speeding or have you been given a fixed penalty fine with 7 days to surrender driving Licence and produce Insurance and MOT.
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In any event go and get an MOT ASAP.
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I got given a fixed penalty fine with 7 days to surrender driving Licence and produce Insurance and MOT
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As I said at the start, in 15 years and 300,000 miles, not so much as one point and now this.
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Then you have no choice but to tell them.
Go get an MOT in the meantime then at kleast you can show that you have rectified your mistake. What happens probably depends on your attitude and what mood you catch PC Plod in.
Good Luck anyway, let us know what happens.
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It may be that as there are further offences other than the speeding you will not be able to enter into the FPT procedure and the matter will have to go to court.
It used to be that an MOT up to 4 weeks out of date and a re MOT only incurred a Caution.
Sorry to make your night but will check tomorrow.
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Would playing really stupid help???
What I was thinking was.
1 - get it MOT'd
2 - go to cops a few days later with new mot and other paperwork.
3 - when (if) they notice the date on the new MOT say that it was due a couple of days ago
4 - If they ask for the old one say that I have binned it because I thought I only needed to keep the new one. i.e. really stupid!
5 - my car was bought from a garage almost 12 months ago and so the old MOT came with it. Therefore I do not know which MOT station did the last test.
or would it be better to simply come clean.
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or would it be better to simply come clean.
Yes.
For starters you have posted on a public forum that you knowingly admit that your MOT had expired.
Not to mention that it would be much worse for you if you're found out at a later date that you have been lying.
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1 & 2 YES
3 4 & 5 DEFINATELY NOT
If you did opt for 3 4 & 5 you could end up with major problems which would be far greater than having no MOT.
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Don't chance it.
Was in court in connection with one of our drivers in November (Dangerous Vehicle) and was talking to PC (prosecution witness). While waiting he was asked to check several sets of documents relating to other cases where the accused had brought documents to court. One of the things he specifically checked was the date of the offence and the date of commencement of the certificate - three out of five had insurance starting after the event, one by hours - so they do check!
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Tony E
Get your motor tested NOW and a new certificate.
Within the 7 days allowed to produce your documents down to the Plodshop with both old and new Certs.
Providing there are no other offences with the rest of your documents and the date of expiry MOT/new MOT is a very short time then Plod may well rattle your ears, take your DL for points by Mags Clerks and proceed with the FPN.
If he does not and report then FPN procedure has to go out of the window and speeding offence to Court. But I feel sure (97%) CPS will not proceed with a no MOT charge.
dvd
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Thanks to eveybody for their comments. The car is now in for a MOT and with today being Friday 13th I am not hopeful!
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Best of luck mate. Keep things honest and up front and plod will recognise you for what you are, and will probably treat you fairly..
As soon as you try and pull the wool over their eyes it all goes out the window and its a short step to "attempting to pervert the course of justice"
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Local policy is that if you pay the ticket then that deals with the speeding fine. The ticket office then inform the original officer re the MOT offence and a Summons File is created and submitted. In your case, although as say this is local policy, as you have a fresh MOT (dont forget to produce the old one) you will probably get a ticking off.
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If you have (or can hire) a bunch of kids that can cry *very* loud on demand, then take them with you when you take the docs in. You'll be in & out in no-time.
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The car is now in for a MOT and with today being Friday 13th I am not hopeful!
Come on then Tony. Tell us whether it passed or not.
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Thanks to everybody who has commented on here.
The story so far is.
The car had its MOT and passed - there was a mechanical problem which it failed on, which I was aware of, and had fixed.
I couldn't find my driving license until today which was causing some concern, but now have the license and will be going to the local police station later today.
My story will be this!
Hands up to the speeding - I have no problem with it as it was my stupidity, I was going too fast, but gutted that I now have points after 15 years and 300,000 miles of driving without any. For the MOT, I am going to be upfront and tell them that I wasn't aware that it was out of date and rectified it as soon as possible - the next day. My argument will be along the lines of 'if I'd known about it, I wouldn't have been driving in such a way as to draw attention to myself.'
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Good luck Tony :) I hope that if you go in with a co-operative attitude like that, they'll give you a bit of a verbal ticking off over the MoT and just process the speeding offence.
Though, it may depend on how serious the MoT problem was. If, for example, your brakes were in a very bad state, I suppose they might be a bit tougher. But do let us know how you get on.
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Just got back and she didn't notice! I just kept her taqlking while she was checking the MOT. I now have a bit of paper which says it was all in order.
Thanks again to everybody for the advice. It was all very much appreciated.
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Lets hope the old bill don't read this !
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Lets hope the old bill don't read this !
I would hope that old bill would have the wisdom to look at the big picture :)
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They probably would have verbally warned, they don't take kindly to being conned though !
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Tony
sorry to rain on your parade, She has taken down all the details on her form. This includes the commencement date of your MOT. This in turn will be checked by whoever is preparing the charges and if noticed may come back to bite you with a vengence!
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No, she left the commencement date off it. On the green copy I have, the test certificate section does have sections marked testing station and valid from, but all she has done is write 'all in order'in the section.
Had she filled this bit in I would have piped up!
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No, she left the commencement date off it. On the green copy I have, the test certificate section does have sections marked testing station and valid from, but all she has done is write 'all in order'in the section. Had she filled this bit in I would have piped up!
Staggering, really! (Perhaps she fancied you!).
I do find it *slightly* alarming that you say the car failed on a mechanical problem, that you knew about. So, MOT or not, where you knowingly driving an unroadworthy car?
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A mechanical problem may not equate to either unroadworthiness or an MOT failure.
Equally, I don't know if your car requires an MOT but if it does, could you absolutely guarantee that it would pass tomorrow?
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300,000 miles and no points, smile sweetly and remember the famous line.''the evil men does lives after them, the good is oft intered with their bones'' seems Shakespeare must have have some points on his licence too..........
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Don't get me wrong, I do count myself very lucky. However, I did get a hell of a shock when I discovered that the MOT was out of date as I really did think that I had a couple of weeks left.
The mechanical fault was worn sub frame bushes. I was going to book this in for next week to have fixed with a view to getting the MOT the week after.
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Tony
If she left off the details of the commencement date etc there is the real possibility that she was being kind to you, or didn't want theextra paperwork for what seemed like a genuine mistake on your part. Had you said something, I suspect you could have put the lady in a difficult position.
You should not overlook this detail, and IMO nor should the rest of us.
I'll never forget receiving a visit from a PC whilst in halls at polytechnic, a few weeks after a minor collision.
He asked to see my insurance. He had already seen the tax disk at the time. He said when parting "I'll say I've seen the MOT".
I actually had a certificate that had expired after the RTA, so I would have been covered. However the condition of the car I suspect caused him to make that comment.
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