Hello All,
Following on from an ealier thread about Panda versus Rio, I have now driven the Panda diesel. Really liked it.
I have agreed the following deal and would be interested to know what everyone thinks.
- Fiat Panda 1.3D Multijet. Mamba Yellow with blue interior. Brand new.
- 30%down 0% interest over 3 or 4 yrs (don't particularly car) This is Fiats current special offer
- AirCon pack (manual aircon,roof bars etc..)
- split fold/slidy rear seat
- Mats
- Tank of diesel
£8k exactly. (List price is £7895)
Personally I think its quite good given I've got the options I wanted and can pay over 4yrs interest free for pretty much list price.
What do people think? Reasonable? or rubbish.
BTW - for those interested the split fold rear seat option is shown here, courtesy of a kind chap from www.fiatforums.com
www.fiatforum.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=9760...0
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Sounds like you are paying way too much, unless the extras are very expensive.
I just checked some of the links from the "Week's Best Deals" on this site (see the right of this page).
e.g. Broadspeed.com is quoting £6624 for the Panada Multijet Dynamic: tinyurl.com/ao3sz
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List price is £7850, the Aircon pack is £550, £200 for the seats, £40 for a tank of fuel and £40 for a set of mats - total price of £8725
You have been offered it for £8000, i've had a quick check on a couple of brokers who are offering it for around £7600 including the options. If you buy the car from a broker it will be sourced via a UK main delear and you will still be able to use the finance offer. I suggest you speak to your dealer and ask him to come down another couple of hundred pounds else i would be speaking to the broker.
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Sounds very expensive for a little Fiat, if you look on Auto trader there are several RIO's on there with near delivery mileage for under 8k.
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Thanks very much for all for your posts guys. Seems like you all think I'm paying too much though and there's me thinking I had done OK!! Nothing lost though as not signed on any lines yet!
What Car target price is £7159 and the options cost £550 (aircon) and £200 (slidy split fold seat). Therefore making total of £7909. Allowing for a set of mats and tank of diesel I'm pretty much on the button with exactly £8k (and interest free option is worth a saving @£500 over that time on top)
Blue Haddock - Are you sure I will be able to get the interest free offer via a broker? If you could tell me which brokers offered this that would be really useful. (I've just re-run my quote with Broadspeed enquiring about this btw.) If you could get broker price and interest free that would be great. I ran a quote with Broadspeed previously and the details came through as a pre-reg'ed car in the end. This is why i thought the interest free would have gone out the door.
Car was great by the way. Will post a review if anyone's interested.
Keep posting thoughts on the deal and links to better ones please
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Just a thoight, but with a new Punto on the way, there may be some good deals on the old ones. It might be worth checking them out -- just a guess, but it might be that you could get a Punto for a lot less money.
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Thanks - Sat in a Punto actually and inside they're pretty horrid. Panda is a much more appealing car in all ways IMHO. Guess that's fair kop though given the Punto is years old. Sure the new one will me loads better
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Thanks - Sat in a Punto actually and inside they're pretty horrid. Panda is a much more appealing car in all ways IMHO.
Ah, I rather liked the Puntos I drove. Surprisingly impressive, I thought. But if it's not your cup of tea, fair enough!
BTW, does the Panada have the "City" button for the electric power steering, like the Punto does? That's a brilliant gadget.
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yes it does. The steering is light anyway but with that button pressed its a one finger job. Thought it was great for parking. Think the wife will like it.
Whole car was very nice to drive actually. Very light and airy and absolutely fine on the motorway at 80 (3-up aswell) which was a key requirement for its role as a commuter hack. We were also able to fit the travel system in the boot and the car seat fitted well. Optional slidy seat thingy comes with isofix mountings which will come in handy as we have first dibs on a Britax isofix car seat when the little'uns big enough. Overall the car was more than fit for purpose IMHO.
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Panda is now showing up at auction, in slightly better numbers.
Not diesels, though, but 1.2 Dynamic 14 months old, 10k average miles = a shade under £4000 - you could buy a lot of petrol, with the difference to your £8000!!
VB
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Certainly a fair point. Maybe I'm being foolish going for a new one but I do want the diesel and the aircon and the slidy seat and they aren't easy to find. Plus the interest free. Plus the "new carness". Suppose it's a bit of a treat in some way but the economics must stand up to some scrutiny (not sure they are on this board!)
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Certainly a fair point. Maybe I'm being foolish going for a new one but I do want the diesel and the aircon and the slidy seat and they aren't easy to find. Plus the interest free. Plus the "new carness". Suppose it's a bit of a treat in some way but the economics must stand up to some scrutiny (not sure they are on this board!)
Your £8,000 new car will be worth, I think, about £3,000 or £4,000 in three years time.
Over the same period, £8,000 worth of used Ford Focus or whatever (medium hatch with aircon etc) may lose rather less in value ... or the £4,000 14-month-old Panda would drop (I guess) about £2,000.
You pay a lot for the "new carness", but it's up to you decide if that's how you want to use your money.
As to a diesel, if it's fuel costs you are worried about, I suggest you run the figures a simple spreadsheet - I did, and it surprised me. There's unlikely to be more than a hubdred or two hundred a year saving by having the diesel Panda, though you may just prefer the extra power.
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Motorpoint have got brand new Pandas 1.2Dynamic for £5599. The £2500 difference buys a lot of petrol!
Speaking personally the idea of spending £8k on a Panda seems a bit OTT to me.
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I'm fairly certain you will get the interest free - i used to work as a dealer supplying toyota's through brokers and we we're able to offer any finance incentives to purchasers. As long as the car is not pre-reg'd you should be able to get the offers.
Brokers that you may like to try include
www.drivethedeal.co.uk
www.carfile.net
www.ukcarbroker.co.uk
www.broker4cars.co.uk
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Thanks All,
Sounds like my deal is not too hot then, but good to have so many people willing to go off and prove me wrong. Good stuff.
I've contacted some of the brokers listed above and here's the best of the bunch. No evidence that I can get the 0% finance at this point (not necessary but attractive). Have enquired on this point but will have to wait for reply's.
1) www.fiatsupasaver.com @ £7250 - don't know about 0%finance? - have emailed
2) www.drivethedeal.com = £7504 - suggests 0% finance is possible?
3) www.broadspeed.com = £7374 - don't know about 0%finance
4) www.broker4cars.co.uk - nothing doing - Fiat not listed
5) www.carfile.net - nothing doing - Fiat not listed
When the dealer calls me tomorrow I'll tell him that I'm still hunting and offer him the chance to eek out a little more. I'll also ask him for his best cash price (highlighting fiatsupasaver if necessary). If he can match £7250 that would be very tempting.
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I'll also ask him for his best cash price (highlighting fiatsupasaver if necessary).
DON'T suggest 'cash' deal - imply, you wmay well consider a finance package - low rate/0% as this will either be another potential profit element for him - or subsidised, by Fiat.
Incedently, if you can pay by credit card, you'll have added consumer protection & by using a cashback/points earning one, more £$£$£ in the bank!!
As long as he doesn't want to stuff you with a charge for using it!!
VB
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£7200 from www.fiatsupasaver.com , inc aircon and split seat. They are a UK Fiat dealer so assuming they participate you might get the 0% as well - worth the ask.
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I sat in a new Panda last week. Maybe it's me but the plastics smell was 1. strong and 2. unacceptable.
I did a search on Autrader and a 5 mile Multijet Dynamic was £6k. As Pandas generaly do little mileage if i wanted one, I'd buy a 1-2 year old one - the smell may have gone by then, the price reduced by 40% and it will be nicely runin.
Maybe my Scottish ancestry but £8k for a new one seems about £2.5k too high vs Hyundai, etal.
The 4x4 looks nice. Same logic applies imo.
madf
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It seems a lot of money. I bought a 1.2 ex demonstrator in October just before it was 12 months old for a little over £5k.
You can get 18 month old ones for around £4k if you search well. Not much difference between them really and you can save all the cash, invest in high interest account etc etc. Of course the diesel model is the pick of the range with better power and economy but with options the new on the road price does creep up. I like my 1.2 and overall it's a great little car to drive. Perhaps if you intend to keep it for long term at least five years you won't be hit by depreciation and the fuel bill savings will start to show through by then, but many people fancy a change after 3 to 4 years time. One thing I would recommend is the alloys with 165 tyres, they may be standard on Eleganza diesels. The normal 155 tyres are far too narrow for enthusiastic driving.
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Update (with nothing to report sadly)
With the options the best price I can find is £7250 from FiatSupaSaver.com. £7250 + £150 delivery and its only 6 months tax so call it another £50 = £7400 OTR. No 0% deal available.
Broadspeed are about the same and again, no 0% finance on offer.
Allowing for the fact that the dealer interest free deal means I can earn about £450 interest in the meantime, I don't think the internet deal and dealer deal are miles apart. Is my logic up the spout here?
Anyway, bad news is that no-one can find me one with aircon pack AND the slidy seat (this is the real problem - no one seems to specify it but to me its essential for a couple of reasons)
So 6-8wks (maybe even 12) seems like the going rate.
Can't even find one on Autotrader!
I appreciate that lots of you have cited cheap petrol Panda's (again without the slidy seat) everywhere, but I really want the diesel as it will be commuting along the motorway 2 or 3 up most days (and I want it anyway truth be told!). I intend to keep the car for lots of years as it seems the perfect 2nd car. So if someone knows the whereabouts of a diesel Panda with slidy rear seat and maybe aircon please shout!
Unsure what to do now. feel a bit annoyed that I may have to wait ages (from any source)
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Jase, it sounds like the deal you are getting is a competitive price for the Panda.
My question would still be whether you want 8K worth of brand new Panda rather than 8k worth of a bigger and more luxurious nearly new car, such as atwo-year-old Honda Jazz (e.g. tinyurl.com/c34xw ) or a 1yo Skoda Fabia (e.g. tinyurl.com/dcooa )
But it seems like the Panda is what you really want :)
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Thanks for sticking at this long and painful thread NoWheels. Good suggestions and alternatives I have considered
Now got two deals on the table from the dealer
1) The aforementioned £8K - 30% deposit + balance interest free over 4yrs.
2) £7350 straight buy (he's just come back to me with that)
includes everything discussed above:
-Panda 1.3D multijet.
-"hard man's" vanilla yellow with blue interior trim!
-aircon pack (£550 option)
-magic split fold seat (£200) option
-tank of diesel
-set of Panda mats
I think the dealers done pretty well with deal 2). He's matched all the internet people and I think I'll buy it. Will keep you all informed..
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Trading standards wouldn't be very happy with them apparently offering the choice of 'interest free' or a discount - if you were to sign the order and then ask for the 0% finance they'd be on a very sticky wicket...the point being they can't claim 0% APR when the credit clearly costs £650 if I understand correctly what you have written!
Surprisingly nice car to drive though - at least the Dynamic 1.2 is. We have one that my son gets about 40mpg out of on relatively short local journeys, 50mpg being achievable on decent non-urban journeys, so it might be worth doing the sums, also taking into account that diesel is about 5p a litre more than petrol.
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Just to let you know I've ordered it. £7350 OTR with the options listed above (actually beats the best internet quote allowing for delivery cost and only 6mths tax).
Happy with that price for the car with the extra's and hopefully some dealer goodwill having not bought it off the broker.
Thanks to those of you who helped me stick at it and get a good deal (IMHO)
Many weeks wait now begins :(
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