If you had the choice & money was no object, what is the 1 true classic car that you would want Santa to bring you on Sunday?
My choice would be a 58 Plymouth Fury (aka Christine), all that chrome, the large fins & a 350 V8 to power it. It doesn't come close to say an E-type but IMO it still looks great & is definitely a head turning machine, a proper yank classic.
Here is the car in question
57and58plymouth1.homestead.com/Christine1.html
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XK120 or 150 not fussy which one!
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Time to get on with some work
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A 300SLR or a D-Type or a 250GTO or a 330GT or a GT40 or a Miura SV or an ISO Griffo or a 365GTB or a 246 or a 365GTC or a 365BB or a 288GTO or an F40 or a 911GT1 or a Mclaren F1 or an Enzo or a Diablo SV or a 575M or an EB110 or a Veyron....
Though a mint 308GT4 circa 1977 would do.
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1970 Corvette Stingray
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Probably, but only probably a Jaguar XJ5.3C. Very seventies.
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Probably, but only probably a Jaguar XJ5.3C. Very seventies.
Actually I would like a Series I XJ12 circa 1973 on carbs.
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In BRG or that very seventies Heather mauvie colour. Cracking motor that V12 Carb'd
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Heather mauvie or perhaps red or a silvery grey I seem to remember.
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Mclaren F1(if its old enough to be a "classic")
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1969 Chevy Camaro SS/RS. Resto-modified or whatever they call it. Engine tuned to c. 450bhp; brakes and suspension uprated to modern standards; 17" wheels with decent tyres.
Something like this, but with normal alloys not chrome wheels!
photos.yahoo.com/vern27_99
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For me, it'd have to be the ultimate classic car: Citroen 2CV, of course!
Too polluting for contemporary use, but there's probably nothing else which fulfilled its design brief so well, using very clever engineering to achieve its goals through simplicity rather then the baroque complexity of modern cars. And it can teach most modern cars a lot about ride comfort.
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Citroen DS Decapotable. Or maybe a sorted SM V6 EFi. Or a CX GTI Turbo II.
Actually just the time to weld up the 'classic'* I've already got would be nice..
*'Classic' status is in the eye of the beholder!
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RichardW
Is it illogical? It must be Citroen....
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I'm with Richard, Citroen DS Decapotable and time enough to take it around Europe over the summer....
--Lee .. sorry, the card says Moops.
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'72/'73 Mazda RX2 or RX3 Coupe becoming very rare and very collectable.I want one now.
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Mercedes 300SL Gullwing. 1962 i think. hmmm.
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Mercedes 300SL Gullwing. 1962 i think. hmmm.
More like 1955, the 300SL is a true classic though a 300SLR ........
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Do the eighties cars fall into the "classic" box?
If so, can I have a Subaru SVX please santa? Any of those eighties coupes really, nissan 300SX etc.
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Something like this would do it foe me....
tinyurl.com/c94dn
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Can't link directly, but go here:
www.rswilliams.co.uk/index2.html
Then click sales, 8 cylinder cars, and go to the bottom. That'll do me nicely thank you.
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Alternatively, if someone could find the perpetrator of this:
www.aoqz76.dsl.pipex.com/Web%20Page%20Components/W...g
and string him up, I'd be quite happy.
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that would look mint in red
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that would look mint in red
It would look 'mint' if they took all that rubbish off it.
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Did you see the '60 DB4 GT, £425k and sold!
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Did you see the '60 DB4 GT, £425k and sold!
Indeed. Much as I'd love to do my car shopping there, I don't think I will be any time soon.
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Any Bristol or an Alfa Montreal (my dream since it featured in my Top Trumps Supercars from the mid 70s)
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Ooo yeah, the Monty is lovely.
Have you ever heard one running? Droooooooooool.
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a DB5 / DB6 - in the gold/brownish bond colour
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Greetings from the land of Big Bad Dave this week!
Hmm, a tough choice.
Either the guards red, whale tail, 3.3 litre, four speed, 911 (930) turbo that I fell in love with in 1978, or one of the last 993, four wheel drive, bi-turbos in dark blue metallic.
If I was still a bachelor one of the latter would now be parked in the garage, but I'm not and it isn't! Thank heavens married life has its compensations!
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SjB, thought you?ld be in the Czech Republic with the wife. Did you miss your braking point or something?
Keep your eyes peeled for the dirtiest Peugeot you?ve ever seen and I?ll be on the lookout for a nutcase in a Volvo. I?m only in Warsaw for 2 more days, if I don?t get any better offers I?m gonna drive to the Russian border and drink myself into a festive coma. Take care in the snow matey.
My prezzie from Santa will be a 6 litre XJS ragtop so no surprises there (although I haven?t exactly been a good boy this year)
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SjB, thought you?ld be in the Czech Republic with the wife. Did you miss your braking point or something?
He he he! :-)
No, this was work; LOT from LHR to Warsaw for three days, and then the LOT flight back home to Blighty last night. As it happens I was introduced to a largish ex-pat Brit called Dave, and I thought "Surely not?!". As soon as I knew he didn't drive a Pug I knew "not"! I am likely to be back in Warsaw in the Spring though so if you fancy a vodka or three let me know.
We're off to Krnov on 28th via Prague, so the (cleanest you'll ever see ;-) Volvo will be locked in the garage for a couple of weeks.
BTW - How on earth do you tolerate Warsaw traffic? I swear that every matey in a left lane was turning right and vicky vercky! The resultant gridlock makes London traffic look tame. Add the snow and ice and that my colleagues (and their countrymen) all have binary driving styles and you have complete mahem!
Well, cheers for now and enjoy the festive season.
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I think thats a 90's, the earliest I saw was a J plate, mine was a 94.
Get santa to fit the manual conversion and you're away.
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Ah, post order is up the spout isnt it ? My message above was re the svx
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Citroen DS23 EFi, in black.
Actually, a GS would be nice too!
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MK II Jag.
NW wrote:>Citroen 2CV, of course! Too polluting for contemporary use, but
Oh ******** NW! (NONSENSE (8*s))
Nonsense! Tosh! Balderdash! Piffle! Bunkum!
It did about 10 miles to the pint. It was made of flattened baked bean cans and weighed less than my new laptop computer.
The energy put into making a new car is rather a lot. The energy put into making a tin can on wheels like the deux chevaux was not very much. The energy costs of making a car are very high.
Drive a vintage 2CV and save the world
I bet you are one of these people who think that wind turbines will save the world. They won't. A wind turbine takes MORE energy to build THAN it will EVER generate in its working life. MORE! So how does that save the planet?
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MK II Jag. NW wrote:>Citroen 2CV, of course! Too polluting for contemporary use, but Oh ******** NW! (NONSENSE (8*s)) Nonsense! Tosh! Balderdash! Piffle! Bunkum!
Would I be right in thinking that you diasagree with me there, mapmaker?
It did about 10 miles to the pint. It was made of flattened baked bean cans and weighed less than my new laptop computer.
True, except for the mpg. It isn't exceptionally good by modern standards, though probably good by by the standards of the time. But AFAIK, a "CV's emissions are pretty high.
The energy put into making a new car is rather a lot. The energy put into making a tin can on wheels like the deux chevaux was not very much. The energy costs of making a car are very high.
Agreed, and the 2CV scores highly there. And apart from chassis rust in damp Northern climates, it also has the bonus of being easily repairable, so it can kep on going long after a baroque modern car is too expensive to fix.
Drive a vintage 2CV and save the world
Ok, sir! Can you deliver it to West Yorkshire, please Mister Mapmaker Santa? ;)
I bet you are one of these people who think that wind turbines will save the world.
Nope, I'm not. They is a con, at least at the current state of technology. Maybe they'll improve in the future, but I'm not holding my breath.
They won't. A wind turbine takes MORE energy to build THAN it will EVER generate in its working life. MORE! So how does that save the planet?
It doesn't :( The answer is to use less energy rather than endless dreaming up fancy ways of supporting the current unsustainable demand for it.
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Drive a vintage 2CV and save the world
A couple of points, it does not matter if all the 2CV's in the world to only do 10 mpg or achieve 1000 mpg, there are relatively few of them so they will make no difference to CO2 levels.
On the other hand to be clear about how polluting an individual vehicle is, for instance in 1965 Minor 1000 averaging 40mpg was much, much more polluting than for instance a 1.6 Focus at 40mpg is today. Although measurable CO2 will be similar, and leaving aside the questionable benefits of a cat, the Minor simply did not burn it's fuel efficiently and would also have burned more oil therefore emitting significant amounts of unburnt hydrocarbons.
I bet you are one of these people who think that wind turbines will save the world. They won't. A wind turbine takes MORE energy to build THAN it will EVER generate in its working life. MORE! So how does that save the planet?
That is a very interesting point, do you have figures on this? Surely it depends on the lifetime of the turbine, there are turbines in Scandinavia that have been running for 20 years with very little operator intervention. Afterall any conventional power station incurs a significant cost in energy terms to build (and maintain) and subsequently achieves only limited efficiency in converting the energy within oil, gas or coal into electricity, additionally there is an energy cost in extracting the oil, gas or coal in the first place.
Of course reducing the demand for energy is the ideal however the comparison needs to be on the basis that x amount of energy is needed in y place and therefore what is the most efficient way of producing it.
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That post about wind turbines is very interesting, I will be checking it's validity with the energy branch at work as it seems plausible but I still don't know whether to believe it or not!
At present IIRC there is only about 5% of UK energy produced from renewable resources.
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Without doubt, a late 1930's Lagonda.
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