Engine oil - Shelf life? - Billsboy
I have just used the last of the litre of Castrol SLX that was provided with my new Passat TDi two years ago for topping up. I wondered whether it is safe to use an unopened 4lt can of Mobil "1" which was given to me three years or so ago. The spec seems the same but does oil deteriorate?
Any thoughts would be welcome.
Engine oil - Shelf life? - Hamsafar
It will be fine, especially a stable synthetic oil like this.
Engine oil - Shelf life? - Screwloose
Billsboy

I don't think that a can of Mobil 1 has the required VW 506.00/01 spec. Without the tracer chemical the ECU will log an "improper oil used" code and your warranty will be void.
Engine oil - Shelf life? - oilman
The shelf life of this oil is around 5 years.

Cheers
Simon
Engine oil - Shelf life? - Bill Payer
Without the tracer chemical the ECU
will log an "improper oil used" code and your warranty will
be void.

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Seriously? I'd be utterly amazed if the engine is capable of identifying a tracer chemical.
What could easily be done (in the event of a warranty claim) is for the dealer to have the oil analysed.
Engine oil - Shelf life? - Screwloose
Bill Payer

Believe it. There's an ECU-connected "oil quality sensor" on the sump precisely for that reason. It's all to do with the variable service interval computations. [Can have to last 20,000 miles or more.]

VW licence oil manufacturers to produce the tracer-containing VW506.00/01 0W/30 fully synth oil - at a cost. Why do you think it's £80 a fill?
Engine oil - Shelf life? - quizman
VW licence oil manufacturers to produce the tracer-containing VW506.00/01 0W/30 fully synth oil - at a cost. Why do you think it's £80 a fill?




I don't know why it is £80. I can buy SLX11 for £36, and I reacon the factors are making a profit on it.

Garages charge too much, I don't know how they get away with it.
Engine oil - Shelf life? - Bill Payer
Bill Payer
Believe it. There's an ECU-connected "oil quality sensor" on the
sump precisely for that reason. It's all to do with
the variable service interval computations. [Can have to last 20,000
miles or more.]

The oil quality sensor is an infrared light (so not a chemical detector) that shines through the oil to assess how much it's deteriorated. There's some doubt the that the cars electronics uses this at all, actually calculating the service interval from either the number of cold starts or its MPG.
VW licence oil manufacturers to produce the tracer-containing VW506.00/01 0W/30 fully
synth oil - at a cost. Why do you think
it's £80 a fill?

Fully synth oil is £10-12 per litre in many main dealer service departments.
Engine oil - Shelf life? - Screwloose
Bill Payer

I've never taken an oil quality sensor apart; but that doesn't fit with what my oil supplier's tech division tell me.

Their sales staff say that they have to licence the tracer chemical from VAG which is why the special 0W/30 oil for VAG is so dear [to me] and also why they have to produce different 0W/30 tracer oils for MB, Ford and now GM.

I now have to stock [among 39 of their other engine oil lines] five slow-selling 0W/30 fully synths; if there was no good reason, why would they do it.

Engine oil - Shelf life? - Bill Payer
Bill Payer
I've never taken an oil quality sensor apart; but that doesn't
fit with what my oil supplier's tech division tell me.



I don't doubt that there's a reason for this (although some oils carry several approvals, do they have several tracer chemicals in them?). What I do doubt is the engines ability to know which oil it's been filled with. As I said earlier though, it would be very easy to test the oil in the event of a major warranty claim.
Engine oil - Shelf life? - quizman
Do not use Mobil 1 in your Passat TDI, it needs Castrol SLX11,or Castrol Edge 5W-30, which you can get from Halfords.
Mobil 1 is a good oil, but as has been said, it has not got the correct additives in it for a TDI engine.
Engine oil - Shelf life? - Billsboy
Thanks for all the advice. Screwloose is right, the Mobil has a lower VW spec and I've just bought a litre of Castrol SLX, £12.99 in Halfords!
Engine oil - Shelf life? - Roly93
The reason for VaG's obsession with the 506 oil spec is not just for fun, these engines using the Bosch cam-driven unitary injection system need special oil with very high 'anti-shearing' qualities. That is why they want to protect against warranty claims where the owner hasn't followed the proper maint procedures. This is one of the rare occasions I'm on their side !
Engine oil - Shelf life? - quizman
Thanks for all the advice. Screwloose is right, the Mobil has
a lower VW spec and I've just bought a litre of
Castrol SLX, £12.99 in Halfords!

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Did you get the SLX or the SLX11?
Engine oil - Shelf life? - Billsboy
It was SLXII, (ie as in Roman 2). This was the same as provided by the Dealer when the car was new.
Engine oil - Shelf life? - turbo11
i have cans of mobil 1,in my garage that are over 7 years old.No problem.