Hi gang - just bought some of this stuff called 'Press On Instant Spare' made by Taylor Made Products and distributed by the Greased Lightning people. Basically it says it will inflate and seal a flat tyre until it can be repaired/replaced. This appeals more for Mrs MM than me as I wouldn't want her stuck out on a dark road somewhere trying to change a wheel. Has anyone out there tried this or similar products. The can says to warn the fitter but are there any issues/considerations when using such a product? Damage to alloy wheels for example.
Cheers everyone.
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Hugo
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Depends on what caused the flat in the first place.
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there could be a foreign object protruding from the tyre that could rip the brake hose off or cause the tyre to shred etc.
Sorry but i am not a fan of sealants,i would rather my wife either seek help locally or call me or if possible abandon the vehicle till daylight
I would suggest you give her a good spare wheel/tyre combination a jack a brace and a motoring organisation card for xmas.
Then if the unexpected happens (rare these days touch plastic)she will be in safe hands (dont forget to give her a charged mobile as well,if you work out of the country for long periods you can buy a £30 throwaway phone kept in glovebox for just such emergancy)
long winded answer but it covers most things
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Mmmmm. SWMBO used this stuff on her Audi A2 - it was supplied with the car in place of a spare wheel.
Some of it dribbled dowm the face of the alloy and corroded the surface quite badly. I don't think the tyre was repairable after treatment with this stuff either.
I wouldn't use it on alloys I cared about, or on expensive tyres which might be repaired. I think the cheapest breakdown services at 30 odd quid would be a better solution to the problem.
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Yeah I should have said we realise it won't fix a large hole or seal a rim etc. I heard it was being supplied with some new cars now instead of a spare. Wouldn't use on my car but the wife's is old and the alloys not all that clever anyway. Take the point about breakdown services etc. but if she's on her own, it's dark, cold, wet etc. (which is bound to be the case isn't it)I'm not sure I'd want her hanging around for a man in a van if she should could fix the problem herself and get moving.
Interested to know if there are any more potential problems using this stuff.
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Yes the Tourvan has no spare wheel, a jar of gunk and and electric pump. I must check how it works this w/e rather than on the side of the M4 in the dark and rain. Daft thing is it still has the jack....
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RF - Da DAA. < changes in phone box > Its TOURVAN man
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Yes the Tourvan has no spare wheel,
>>Daft thing is it still has the jack....
Perhaps one might want to to take wheels off to check tyres or brakes?
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In which case you should use a propper jack.Jacks supplied with cars are for emergency use only,then with care.
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In which case you should use a propper jack.Jacks supplied with cars are for emergency use only,then with care.
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I totally agree with your safety reminder.
But on the road, taking off the wheel in an emergency to check it /get it fixed may well need that jack especially if a repair is preferred to the gunge.
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I seem to remember that you have to get the wheel in the right position and the hole in the right position and take the weight off the tyre so that it seals evenly on the rim and the easiest way to do that is with a JACK.
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AH!
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RF - Da DAA. < changes in phone box > Its TOURVAN man
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Should have said but this stuff comes in an aerosol - no electric pump - you just press the outlet on the valve and bingo. It says the can will inflate the tyre but makes no mention of jacking the car up so that can't be an issue. IIRC it only specifies that the tyre valve must be at either the 8 or 4 o'clock positions. Again IIRC, apparently it will inflate a tyre of 16"-18".
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I was told years ago by a tyre repairer they would not touch a tyre that had been 'repaired' this way. No idea about now.
I do have a can, in the Morgan trike, but as it has no spare, and I cannot quickly fit a new tube it seems sensible for that. If I can't fix the tube, cheaper than a tyre so I don't really care.
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Sounds like the stuff I once used for a puncture on my motorbike.
The fitter recoiled with horror and said I should have got the bike recovered, as the tyre would have been otherwise repairable. The gunk apparently makes an otherwise decent tyre u/s on account of the effect the chemicals have on the interior surface.
I still keep a tin of the stuff on the bike when on tour in Europe. Other bikers recommend Ultraseal, put inside the tyre when new and seals punctures for good as some as the puncture happens.
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There's another one called SLIME,you put it in a new tyre and it should-repeat-should seal all punctures.
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I ditched my instant spare for a space saver asap. believe me RF, the process required to utilise the instant spare is somewhat similar to launching a space shuttle. i can see the benefit of carrying one on two wheels, but otherwise, completely, utterly, pointless. How to make a simple job more difficult,with worse results.
let me be the last to let you down....
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I have a question about jacks. How do you put an axle stand under a jacked up car without putting a fairly large proportion of your body under it at the time? Doesn't look like it's easy to reach.
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I had to persuade my local tyre place to repair a tyre I'd used this stuff on. They did it but under sufferance.
I don't see the harm in having a can in the boot - for a few quid I'd rather be able to give myself the choice to kiss good bye to a flat tyre (that almost inevitably will have a nail on the shoulder - they always are aren't they) than have to change one in the pouring rain on a hard shoulder.
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Isn't Slime for mountain bikes?
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Far as I know you can use it in any tyre. But yes, I run tubeless tyres on my bike and Slime does an excellent job. TBH, I don't think you'd even consider running tubeless without Slime or an equivalent.
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Most foams have a speed restriction of 30 mph so it really is a get you out of danger situation. Porsche's stuff is good for 50mph but is expensive. I believe they never recommend a puncture to be mended so throwing the tyre away is "normal" for them but I guess we are not talking Porsche's here anyway.
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Slime is marketed for all sorts of vehicles and there are kits like the ones supplied with some new cars.Their web-site is quite interesting.
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Slime .......
I'd be lost without it ;-)
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Whilst totally endorsing HJs comment about the safety aspects on the new run on flat tyres, I would disagree slightly with the comment about high cost. Runflats are currently about 20% more expensive than their standard equivalents, and about 50% more difficult to fit. However as runflats become much more common watch the prices tumble, even though extra heavy duty fitting machines are necessary. These machines being much more expensive than standard ones...
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Trouble with run flats is two fold
1) I don't think you can fit them without a tyre pressure warning device on the car
2) They have a harsh ride (stiffer sidewall) and need redesigned suspension to keep the ride the same.
That said, much better idea, and I don't know why all manufacturers don't fit them to cars with no spare (like the touran).
Joe
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Dr R you are quite correct on both points. Runflats should not be retro fitted without taking account of your comments. I understand that all BMW cars are now fitted with runflats ( excluding the X3 and X5 ), where they have started others are beginning....
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