Weather forecasts - OTT - Armitage Shanks {p}
What is it with these people? We are told that the overnight temerature is going to "Plummet" or "Plunge" - to minus 3??!! The country is gripped by blizzard conditions or blanketed with snow - reality = less than an inch except on hills and mountains. They make it all so dramatic and with what in mind? We aren't well prepared for winter in many ways; 460+ schools closed in Wales on Friday. Talking up the problem doesn't help IMHO!
Weather forecasts - OTT - henry k
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/4469554.stm
Weather forecasts - OTT - PhilW
Interestingly, there is hardly any snow on the actual road on any of the shots on the video - course, that may be because the TV crew (and helicopter??) might not be able to get to the deep snowdrifts(?) that are actually blocking the road. Heard on the radio that there were 36 mile queues either side of Jamaica Inn.
Also read an interesting article in the Telegraph yesterday about how the authorities had stockpiled salt and were extra prepared for any snow we might get with gritting lorries "at the ready". Is that why there was no sight of any salt or gritters this morning on the A429 near Cirencester, but 3 cars in the ditch/fields? And that was in about half a centimetre of snow
Phil
Weather forecasts - OTT - Waino

>>Is that why there was no sight of any salt or gritters
this morning on the A429 near Cirencester, but 3 cars in
the ditch/fields? And that was in about half a centimetre of
snow


Generally the first spell of bad weather catches a few out then, after that, we all practice what we should have known all along.
Weather forecasts - OTT - jon_s
Simple, they don't want to get caught out again like they did in 1987. They're probably sick to death of seeing the clip of Michael Fish saying 'There isn't a hurricane on the way...'.

Far easier to exaggerate everything, then they can't be accused of not predicting severe weather.
Weather forecasts - OTT - PhilW
Seems to have caught out several thousand in Cornwall, Devon, Wales and Scotland despite all the "preparations" by the Highways Authority and the forecast of snow in these areas 24 hours earlier.
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005...l
Phil
Weather forecasts - OTT - bikemade3
Certainly not OTT, spot on for this morning in Taunton,Somerset, Snow, Snow and more snow.

Having spent many a winter in Norhern Norway (6 in total) when the weatherman says it's going to be cold you know it's going to be cold, not -5 more like -25, at least when it's that cold it doesn't snow.

A few weeks ago the weatherman was talking about a cold blast down to -18 with associated snow over the xmas break. Sorry but from personal experiance it stops falling around -12.

Weather forecasts - OTT - cockle {P}
My brother was very grateful, made Sandbach back to Southend in just over 3 1/2 hours this afternoon, reckons it was one of his best times and put it all down to everyone staying at home due to the 'severe driving conditions'!
Weather forecasts - OTT - Big Bad Dave
"A few weeks ago the weatherman was talking about a cold blast down to -18 with associated snow over the xmas break. Sorry but from personal experiance it stops falling around -12"

'Too cold to snow' is a misconception. The reason it gets really cold is because there?s no cloud cover - hence no snow - not because it?s too cold.

"Too cold to have a fag" though is very real. When I was a smoker I used to nip out for a sly one in the evenings but when it reached -25 unless you can smoke a fag in 90 seconds, forget it.
Weather forecasts - OTT - Robin Reliant
It was ridiculous down here. About two inches of snow fell during a two hour period this afternoon and melted within another couple of hours. The local radio station, Radio Pembrokeshire, stopped playing records and devoted the whole day to reports on the weather causing widespread panic. There were traffic jams all afternoon as people left work early, the local town (Haverfordwest) shut down completely, event the superstores like Halfords packed up at about two pm.

I had promised to get a wiperblade for SWMBO's Saxo on the way home and not a single car shop was open, even the main Citroen dealer had sent their parts staff home. When I left for home myself at about five the roads were deserted and there was hardly a trace of snow about. Lord knows what would have happened if we'd had any really bad weather.
Weather forecasts - OTT - Hugo {P}
The temperature in Cornwall was around -2°C this morning.

A thick blanket of snow covered the road outside our house this morning. This evening some 100 cars were stuck on Bodmin Moor. Police organised road clearences and blankets for occupents of cars. People were complaining that the police didn't do enough. Well all the radio stations were warning people of the conditions all day, and advising them to stay at home, so IMO they took their chances and got stuck. From what I saw the Police and RAF did a cracking job in helping them.

Also Today, I was supposed to be going on someone's roof, but I decided this was not a good idea. After all it's a bit difficult to replace slates when they're covered in snow.

Having said that I was working on the client's guttering in the pooring rain yesterday. It's only when you're standing underneath the roof without guttering in the rain when you realise why guttering was invented. After I finished that part of the job getting completely soaked through in the process, the rain stopped.

The gang of workmen digging a trench for the new water main outside the house decided to pop off home at lunchtime after working in blizzard conditions for the morning.

OTT weather forecasts - erm no I don't think so ;)
Weather forecasts - OTT - PhilW
Ok, Hugo, the forecast was right for your area but why do the weather forecasts have to be such a shotgun approach? As an example, I had to go from Leics to Bath today. (My usual commute is 5 miles down the road) So, 6am today thought I would have a look at the forecast. BBC website said cold, windy, sunny intervals, maybe showers. Met office site said same but no showers. However, met office also had "severe weather warnings" for midlands and south west saying "heavy snow, blizzards, drifting snow, gales". Local news said drivers were advised to "stay at home". So, fleece, woolly hat, gloves, thermals, boots, shovel etc loaded and I set off, thinking, I'll turn back if it gets bad. Apart from a light dusting of snow in the Cotswolds (is that snow or frost??) I didn't see a snowflake there or back. Nice (chilly)sunny day(Didn't stop a couple of cars going through the hedge though)
How do we know what to believe? And couldn't anyone forecast that accurately? (Sunny or rain showers or snow)
Phil
Weather forecasts - OTT - Waino
I work outside, typically having to drive 60 miles to get to the site, and the job is very much affected by the weather; hence I look at the BBC online and theyr.net forecasts to avoid a wasted journey. I just don't know why I persist in bothering though, as it is rarely accurate enough to give me any useful, specific local guidance.

Despite the technology, I don't think much has changed since the days when, if you said 'Today will be about the same as yesterday', you were right in as many cases as the weather forecast.
Weather forecasts - OTT - Stuartli
Weather is very localised and can vary within comparatively short distances.

I'm lucky enough to live on the North West coastline and we rarely get any extremes of weather, yet from less than 10 miles away going inland it can often be dramatically different.

In fact we've have an expression that if there's six inches of snow here it's six foot deep anywhere else.

No weather forecast can cover such extremes of conditions accurately.
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Weather forecasts - OTT - Reggie
I have to say that I agree with Armitage Shanks on this one.

Here in sunny Leeds I have been mentally preparing myself since Tuesday for all of the problems that significant amounts of snow bring, such as the usual traffic gridlock etc, but more specifically the fact that I live on a hill, and my drive is on a slope off said hill, which in the past I have on one or two occasions barely been able to stop the car from sliding into the house. With more worry about my three boys who are relatively speaking novices at driving in such conditions.

And what do we get. A very cold day on Thursday , and quite a cold sunny day yesterday.

I keep meaning to not watch the weather forecasts and take each day of weather as it comes as the two usually don't match.

Reggie
Weather forecasts - OTT - islandman
Possibly ever since the infamous 'a lady called today to say she'd heard that a hurricane was coming - well don't worry there's not!!!' incident forecasters seem to give a 'worse case scenario, to cover themselves perhaps. I love the summers ones -- large high pressure area, scortching temperatures clear blue skys but still a 'chance of a shower later' forecaster covered just in case!
Weather forecasts - OTT - J Bonington Jagworth
>'Too cold to snow' is a misconception.

As I seem to remember Jasper Carrott pointing out, using the South Pole as an example!

Although the Met Office forecasts have been a bit wobbly this year (perhaps it's where I live) I do find their rain radar useful before deciding whether to travel by car or bike.

www.met-office.gov.uk/weather/europe/uk/radar/inde...l

The animation is helpful, too, but probably too slow on dial-up.
Weather forecasts - OTT - Hamsafar
The state used to manipulate the people by selling dreams, now they sell nightmares, whether that be bird flu, bad weather, WMD or climate change.
Weather forecasts - OTT - mare
The state used to manipulate the people by selling dreams, now they sell nightmares, whether that be bird flu, bad weather, WMD or climate change.


Eh? It did snow in Cornwall yesterday, as predicted.
Weather forecasts - OTT - PhilW
'Too cold to snow' is a misconception.
As I seem to remember Jasper Carrott pointing out, using the South Pole as an example!"

South Pole is a Cold Desert - very low precipitation (less than 10 inches rainfall equivalent per year, like Sahara - driest parts of UK have about 20 to 25) There are even some "dry basin" areas which have no snow or ice cover, so it has not snowed there for hundreds, possibly thousands of years. Reason there are so many "blizzards" is that the temp is almost always below freezing so snow remains as powder snow so gets blown around by the strong winds.
Ice cover has built up because the Antarctican continent has been at South Pole for millions of years (at least 500 million years?) so the tiny annual amount of snowfall has built up over that time to a vast ice mass.
South Pole - too cold to snow most of the time - air is too cold to hold much water.

Phil
Weather forecasts - OTT - J Bonington Jagworth
Just goes to show how education can confuse. I remember reading about Scott and Shackleton and how they were holed up for days riding out blizzards, which my dictionary defines as 'severe snowstorms'!

Perhaps the Arctic would be a better example. Bits of Alaska get 50 feet of snow a year, and I don't think it's all that warm...
Weather forecasts - OTT - Stuartli
Bits of Alaska get 50 feet of snow a year, and I don't think it's all that warm...>>


Pal of mine was visiting a remote area of Canada just before the start of last winter and asked about potential snow levels.

"Often up to 50" was the response. "50 inches!" my pal exclaimed.

"No, 50ft" came the reply.
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Weather forecasts - OTT - The Lawman
My favourite waetherman's trick is the good old "there is a 50% chance of rain"

Talk about hedging your bets.
Weather forecasts - OTT - Glaikit Wee Scunner {P}
Well , the flip side to that is that it was snowing here 10 am in Buxton ,and Glossop, at least an hour before any forecaster admitted to it. A certain on line company still insists it is due at 3pm.
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Weather forecasts - OTT - mountainkat
Unfortunately now in the UK this ridiculous over-reaction by the press to events is not only limited to weather, just watch the news on a daily basis & see how crazy things have become - perhaps a result of 24hr news channels, need something to catch the viewers, or if you believe the conspiracy theory it's a result of the Govt trying to keep us all downtrodden & easily manipulated !!
Weather forecasts - OTT - Xileno {P}
An old boy across the road can predict the weather quite accurately here.
Weather forecasts - OTT - jc
One snowy winter,I was on the A12 going west and had the radio on;they said the A12 Brentwood by-pass is stationary in the Easterly direction;where was I?,on the by-pass,gazing at traffic that was flowing normally.
Weather forecasts - OTT - J Bonington Jagworth
"perhaps a result of 24hr news channels"

Who have apparently just been rapped over the knuckles for presenting predictable and 'diary' events as 'breaking news'. Sky were the worst, but of course that's not exactly news either.

WRT the weather, I'm intrigued that the Met Office has been widely predicting a harsh winter, when they normally insist that long-range forecasting isn't possible.
Weather forecasts - OTT - BazzaBear {P}
Well , the flip side to that is that it was
snowing here 10 am in Buxton ,and Glossop, at least an
hour before any forecaster admitted to it. A certain on line
company still insists it is due at 3pm.


I'm close to you GWS, but a lot lower down - Macclesfield and Congleton. There was no snow forecasted at all here, and yet we seem to have several inches. As a result, no gritting was done overnight, and they don't seem to have managed to send any out during the day either. I, without leaving the office, already know of two accidents from this. Not looking forward to the drive home.
Perfectly happy with my own driving through the snow, just worried about those around me. (Don't mean to be big-headed there btw, not suggesting I'm a great driver or anything, will just use common sense, drive to the conditions, large gaps, huge stopping distances, etc)
Weather forecasts - OTT - Glaikit Wee Scunner {P}
Snowing hard at the moment in Buxton. Expecting a visitor at work- bet he is stuck in the traffic on A6 though.
Feeling my Quatrac 2 tyres will get a testing tonight on the way home across the peaks.......
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Weather forecasts - OTT - David Horn
Darn it. Cold enough in Leeds to freeze the whatsits off the proverbial monkey but no snow yet. Everywhere except us has snow.
Weather forecasts - OTT - Adam {P}
I was in Liverpool before and it started snowing a little. Then stopped. Then started again quite heavily.

Then I got home and it started looking like a blizzard. Hats off to the guys fitting a new garage door over the road.

It all melted after a while though.
Weather forecasts - OTT - PhilW
JBJ,
"Antarctica can be classified as a true desert; in the interior the average annual precipitation (in water) is only about 50 mm (about 2 in)."
"Raging blizzards often occur, however, when winds pick up previously deposited snow and move it from place to place."
Source
www.antarcticconnection.com/antarctic/weather/clim...l

Coastal areas are somewhat different - which may have been where Scott and Shackleton were!! Though Scott died up on the plateau.

Light rain and sleet showers forecast for Midlands today - drove home in a "raging blizzard" and 2 ins of snow!

Phil
Weather forecasts - OTT - J Bonington Jagworth
Most interesting - thank you, Phil.

I think the blizzards that Scott and Shackleton experienced were wind-blown snow rather than precipitation, although I hadn't appreciated the distinction before joining this thread! Perhaps HJ will get an academic chair one day... :-)
Weather forecasts - OTT - Halmer
Forecast here in Stoke-on-Trent and Newcastle-under-Lyme this morning was 'odd snow shower'.

Today in parts of the latter area we have had 6" of snow. My lad's school closed at 2 and it took someone 4 1/2 hours to take him three miles to their house to keep him safe for me. He's stil there at the time of typing because I can't, other than walking for two hours, get to him to bring him home.

Stoke-on-Trent, 3 miles away is pretty much as clear as a bell.