Clarkson gets pied! - Wally Zebon
It seems Jezza has made some enemies! Fancy that!

uk.news.yahoo.com/12092005/140/pie-face-clarkson-c...l
Clarkson gets pied! - Rebecca {P}
But it seems he took it quite well.

or should that be 'on the chin'?


sorry.
Clarkson gets pied! - Dynamic Dave
But it seems he took it quite well.


They showed a clip of him getting the pie in his face on Central News. Laughing and joking about it. JC even gave the thumbs up to the guy that pied him - or at least I think was a thumb ;o)
Clarkson gets pied! - school boy
Should have chucked back some anti-freeze. I don't know where he'd get it from though!
Schoolboy
Clarkson gets pied! - Dynamic Dave
Should have chucked back some anti-freeze. I don't know where he'd get it from though!


Halfords?
Clarkson gets pied! - school boy
Wigs?
Clarkson gets pied! - Adam {P}
What about them?
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Adam
Clarkson gets pied! - school boy
Does Clarkson whear them?
Clarkson gets pied! - Adam {P}
No. The idiot tree huggers who undoubtedly had faces not unlike the gnarled trees they love so much wore them to look like Clarkson.

Don't get me wrong - I'm not his biggest fan at all but sometimes I think these environmentalists do it simply to get on TV. What has been achieved now?


And yes - I'm in a foul mood.
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Adam
Clarkson gets pied! - school boy
I feel like that in a good mood.
Schoolboy
Clarkson gets pied! - PhilW
Good for JC - the right way to react - gone up in my estimation - and I already like him!
Clarkson gets pied! - El Hacko
quite agree - JC is media savvy so reacts in mature, professional manner .. and shows up well meant but juvenile "environmentalists".
Clarkson gets pied! - Sofa Spud
Congratulations to the pie-man! He did what lots of people, tree huggers and petrolheads alike, have wanted to do for ages.

It's just a bit of a pity JC took it in good heart.

I just wish I'd had a custard pie at hand when Germaine Greer visited our town. She and JC are two of a kind.

Cheers, Sofa Spud

Clarkson gets pied! - Big Bird
Is JC an Aussie ;-)
Clarkson gets pied! - Sofa Spud
No, but he and Germaine both come from Legoland, minus the 'L'!

Cheers, SS
Clarkson gets pied! - Dynamic Dave
Congratulations to the pie-man! He did ....


It was a female actually.

Pics here:

Before:- www.arbib.org/clarkpie/ppages/ppage5.html
During:- www.arbib.org/clarkpie/ppages/ppage13.html & www.arbib.org/clarkpie/ppages/ppage6.html
After:- www.arbib.org/clarkpie/ppages/ppage15.html

Full index:- www.arbib.org/clarkpie/
Clarkson gets pied! - No FM2R
I hope that one day someone who doesn't like her opinions lands one right in her face - painfully, embarassingly, and messily - preferably on her wedding day, should she ever have one.

I hope she is prosecuted for some kind of assault.

An appalling woman with no idea of civilised behaviour.

Fortunately she has done more to ridicule her cause than Clarkson ever could.
Clarkson gets pied! - graham sherlock
Oh dear, what worries me, is the small & petty-mindedness of some people out there. Be thankful that you can comment and slag people off openly without the fear of someone knocking on your door. I respect the environment, I use a bicycle, a motor bike AND a car. I do sponsored bike rides to save old country churches and I like small furry animals. I also smile and sometimes laugh at JC & JG. I also read their columns. I also said 'hurrah' when England won the cricket. Does all this make me normal or an extremist?
Clarkson gets pied! - No FM2R
>>Be thankful that you can comment and slag people off

But she didn't do those things, did she. What she did was to assault someone. I don't agree with her. Does that mean I can smack her in the face with something ?

Or would that be disgraceful, insulting, abusive and pathetic ?
Clarkson gets pied! - turbo11
I agree,if someone had done that to me they would have received a sharp punch in the gob,male or female.
Clarkson gets pied! - Adam {P}
What did I tell you.

She's ugly as sin.

Says it all.
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Adam
Clarkson gets pied! - rjr
He couldn't have done better if he had employed Max Clifford
to hire the woman to chuck the pie in his face
and make sure the media all got the story.
HJ



I suspect that when Clarkson became aware that these protesters were out to "pie" him he agreed to be a "victim".

It sounds very odd but by agreeing to let them do it at a pre-arranged time it satisfied the protesters desire for publicity, made Clarkson look like a good sport for not lashing out and he could then simply change into a spare set of clothes and collect the his degree without further inconvenience (i.e. protesters turning up at his home, harassing his children, digging up his dead relatives etc).
Clarkson gets pied! - $till $kint
What did I tell you.
She's ugly as sin.
Says it all.


Now that doesn't really hold you up in a mature and positive light, does it. Physical appearance has bog-all to do with her views. She's to be ridiculed for her actions, not her appearance, you great tall lanky work-shy student scouser.

See how easy it is to throw names based on stereotypes?

We should thank this lady for bringing shame and ridicule on her narrow-minded views rather than pointing out the number of branches she hit on her long fall from the top of the ugly tree. Yes, it's unfortunate that on landing she did so face-first into a fire and had the flames extinguished by a shovel, but it's not very nice to point that out. Just as we shouldn't refer to the unfortunate incident when a vet was called to her home by a well-meaning bystander, calling for assistance for the bulldog with a wasp in its mouth that was wearing ladies clothing.
Clarkson gets pied! - Big Bad Dave
One of them is holding a large photo of a tombstone with a Rover badge on it. I really don?t get what point he?s trying to make. Is he gloating?

I?d set em all on fire I would.
Clarkson gets pied! - mare
One of them is holding a large photo of a tombstone
with a Rover badge on it. I really don?t get what
point he?s trying to make. Is he gloating?


Another old Clarkson Chestnut. He single handed shut Longbridge you know! All his fault.

Thinking out loud (and with gratitutious stereotyping), you'd thought that environmental campaigners would be glad that a car manufacturer went out of business wouldn't you?
Clarkson gets pied! - Robin Reliant
It's what I've always said about global warming. You've only got to look at the types who are always banging on about it to see that it can't possibly be true.

The Tories should recruit JC with a view to eventual leadership.
Clarkson gets pied! - peterb
My problem with the global warming theory it is that I can vividly remember John Craven's Newsround in the 70s telling us that a new ice age was on its way.....
Clarkson gets pied! - Thommo
There are still some scientists predicting an ice age.

All the rubbish about global warming comes from computer models where warming is put in as a variable. Run the model and shazzam global warming.

Some spoilsport put up satellites to measure the warming and what do you know, nothing much has happened.

They are trying now to blame Katrina on global warming. Er... New Orleans may have had hurricanes before chaps. Maybe the big problem was lack of maintenance on the levee...

And for this we are supposed to cripple our economies with the Kyoto treaty whilst Asia expands like Topsy.

The future is bright but its in the East.

Works for me and HJ but thats another thread.

Big C is a supermarket chain by the way...
Clarkson gets pied! - islandman
The Tories should recruit JC with a view to eventual leadership.


Can you imagine it - they'd have a landslide!
JC would have to do a term as transport secretary first before moving on to PM. No tax on petrol, just a bit on diesel, 70mph becomes minimum speed limit on uk motorways, towing a caravan results in immediate deportation, Honda,s can only be purchased by the over 70's.

I really could see him in the house!

Actually JC & KC (Ken Clark) could make a pretty formidable not to say entertaining team taking pot shots at old 2 jags!
Clarkson gets pied! - Adam {P}
$$, your "stereotype" is a wholly accurate description of me though!

Granted, it was a half assed comment but these people throw themselves into the limelight (which I suspect she did solely for this reason) with stupid views, I'm just speaking my mind.....it doesn't work very often so I need to take it for a walk now and then.


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Adam
Clarkson gets pied! - maz64
> All the rubbish about global warming ...

I'm no expert, but isn't there enough evidence of retreating/shrinking ice caps to indicate that something is going on, even if we don't know for sure what the final outcome will be? I'm genuinely curious.

John
Clarkson gets pied! - Snakey
I hope someone pies her hard in the face on her wedding day!

Maybe JC should have the honour, to protest against her prehistoric views?

Sums it up for the enviro-mentals though - their argument is to pie a minor TV celebrity. Hmmmm
Clarkson gets pied! - THe Growler
Wait for the beardy-weirdies to find out from Discovery Channel that the Earth is gradually drifting toward the sun which will become bigger and bigger on the horizon till we all get swallowed up.

Of course that will be the Americans' fault for using all those gas guzzlers.
Clarkson gets pied! - Big Bad Dave
"I'm no expert"

Can I stop you there?
Clarkson gets pied! - madf
Global warming? We moved here 22 years ago. Winters with snow . Not had any recently.

Look at the glaciers in Tibet: they have receded mor ethan 1 mile in last 20 years...

Having said that, if the Green Party really believed, they would walk everywhere and wear home made clothes (or rather hand made ones) and refuse to eat processed food and use no electricity at all. - all use fossil fuels in their manufacture.

I therefore contend most are hypocrites.. Buses are out as are trains: they use oil. Planes are most certainly non PC.



They shoudl try living in somehwere with a nice temperate climate where fossil fuel use is not allowed. I suggest a winter in Siberia?:-)

Don't do as I do, do as I say. Pie throwing is only allowed at non PC people.. :-))

madf
Clarkson gets pied! - Roberson
>>I'm genuinly curious

Over the last 2 million years, the earths climate has fluctuated between relative warmth (interglacial) and relative cold (glacial) but there are no more than 10 degrees Celsius difference. The colder glacial periods last 80 000 to 100 000 years with the warmer periods lasting considerably less with a duration averaging 10000 years.

If these time frames are correct, then at present we're at the end of the latest interglacial period and are entering the glacial periods (considering that the last one was about 12 000 years ago). However, this is not the case, and instead, the earth is warming up, not cooling down.

The temperature fluctuations seen in the past are largely due to natural causes, but it is this later difference from predicted trends which is cause for concern, since it doesn't fit in with any particular natural model or theory.

Since the realization that global climate is warming and not cooling as it is thought it should, scientists have tried to draw up explanations for it, and the theory drawn up was known as the 'greenhouse effect'

Green house effect, is IMHO a much over used and mis-understood term these days. Its a natural system which is needed to sustain life, because without it, the earth would be 32 degrees c cooler. : :shivers: : However, to sustain the correct level of warming, the balances of gasses must remain the same.

This is where us humans come in. Our activity mainly since the industrial revolution has played a large part in the increase in certain gas amounts, notably Co2, which is upsetting the balance of heat energy flows in and out of the earths atmosphere. Cars are not the sole responsibility regarding the release of greenhouse gasses, but also industry including farming and construction. Generally, 2/3s of all human generated CO2 comes from the burning of fossil fuel, hence a 31% increase since 1750, and the present concentration has never been seen in the past 420 000 years.

Generally, global warming is an entirely natural process, but this current excessive warming is not.
Clarkson gets pied! - Robin Reliant
As I understand it, the average temperature was higher during part of the middle ages than it is now.

And who measured the C02 420,000 years ago?
Clarkson gets pied! - Altea Ego
And who measured the C02 420,000 years ago?

Trees.


Clarkson gets pied! - PhilW
"who measured the C02 420,000 years ago?"
They can (apparently) get this from the proportion of gasses in ice cores from Greenland and Antarctica - ice that was formed at that time.
"average temperature was higher during part of the middle ages than it is now"
Yes, and in Roman times - lots of vines grown quite far north in Britain. Mind you, it was also colder at times - ice fairs on the Thames a couple of hundred years ago.
Clarkson gets pied! - PhilW
"Generally, 2/3s of all human generated CO2 comes from the burning of fossil fuel, hence a 31% increase since 1750, and the present concentration has never been seen in the past 420 000 years."
Robe,
Is that a 31% increase in the amount of HUMAN generated Co2? In other words, does it mean that human generated has gone from say 3% to 4% ish of the total? Or are you saying that it is an increase of 31% in the TOTAL amount of CO2 emitted into the atmosphere? And how much of this is due to motorists? Is it significant? Should we be taxed because motorists are major contributors to CO2 production?
Clarkson gets pied! - Roberson


I'll make this the last reply for this, as I fully understand it?s gone off topic.

That 31% is an increase in the total atmospheric concentration (in 1765 it was 279ppm, and 365ppm in 1998). Recent increases in CO2 far exceed the boundaries of natural variability experienced during the first 1.6m years of the quaternary period (2m years in total).
How much of this is due to motorists?


To be totally honest Phil, I don't know for sure as I haven?t quite studied it in depth that far yet. I would imagine a fair majority is through use of internal combustion engines, because 85% of the 31% (26%) increase in concentration is due fossil fuel burning. So that will include power generation as well as practically all modes of transport (excluding the obvious like cycles). The main consumption of fossil fuels goes into transport....
Is it significant?


Based on the above, I would say yes.
Should we be taxed...?


Again, because I don't specifically know the exact contribution made by cars, I can't comment accurately. But I think its 'unfair' that the majority of Europe abides by relatively stringent rules laid out by things like the Kyoto agreement and the U.S can quite readily continue to pump out twice as much greenhouse gasses as us (per capita). Even if it were correct to be taxed, you can see that its not discouraging the use of our cars.

Now, back to the subject of Clarkson, and his acquaintance with that pie!
Clarkson gets pied! - PhilW
Thanks for reply - I won't add to "off topic" any more either!
Clarkson gets pied! - school boy
It's because the bark on the trees mess up their faces!
Clarkson gets pied! - Waino
Er .... and what was it that earned JC a degree in the first place? Surely it's not just for talking loudly about motor cars?
Clarkson gets pied! - Altea Ego
Global Warming?

Hmm no doubt about it, weather patterns are changing, I only have to scroll my own 50 year memory banks to work that one out.

Caused by earth warming up? Again I only have to look at some evidence and make a few brain cells connect to work that one out too.


The funny thing is once I have the couple of brain cells hummming away sweetly they tell me that climatic patterns of the earth change quite often, quite a lot, over a large period of time. At one time the the UK was a tropical rain forest, then there was an ice age, its had bits of desert as well.

My brain cells cant quite cope with how a 100 years of driving cars has managed to effect millions of years of climate change.

Did the polution caused by a trabant really wipe out complete life forms like the Dinosaurs?



Clarkson gets pied! - mjm
JC's politically correct response should have been to change his name to John Prescott, and land one on her.

Global warming? What's that? Another excuse for more taxes, surely not!
Clarkson gets pied! - PhilW
"UK was a tropical rain forest, then there was an ice age, its had bits of desert as well."
Yeah but - the tropical rainforest bit (carboniferous era which also had a huge ice age in certain parts of the world 300 million years before present) and the desert bit (Permian era 200mybp) were because "UK" was closer to the equator than now. But you are "correct" according to figures often quoted - global warming is a natural phenomena which we can do little about. One of the main greenhouse gases is Carbon Dioxide - 97% is naturally produced. Of the remaining 3% only a tenth, 0.3%, is produced by cars so 100 years of car driving does not produce global warming. If we wiped every car off the surface of the earth it would make virtually zero difference to global warming - but "Another excuse for more taxes" ? Yes it's easy. Your car contributes to global warming, we'll tax your use of it to cut down your use (does it work?). They could also tax you on your breathing out of CO2 so you cut down on breathing, tax rice (decomposing rice stalks produce CO2 in vast quantities), tax cows (or you) for passing wind (nasty methane gas ) etc etc. What's easiest? Cars, cars, cars.
Clarkson gets pied! - Hugo {P}
Guys,

If you do want to discuss environmental issues, please start a new thread - providing it's motoring related of course. I'm not replying to any post in particular but I can see this one going off topic soon.

Thanks

Hugo - BR moderator
Clarkson gets pied! - helicopter
All the talk of global warming and new ice ages is pure speculation IMHO - I don't know or care quite frankly and if you think that is selfish - tough. Our children and grandchildren will have to look after themselves.

Didn't we have a report recently from the greenies that the increase in CO2 emissions was due to millions of cows or was it sheep breaking wind.How stupid are these people?

If thats the case shouldn't our green friends be going around shoving pies in the faces of farmers instead?

I think that should finish this thread off...
Clarkson gets pied! - Crinkly Dave
AH
But Jeremy just smiled and commented on the taste, with a smile. Perhaps a lesson for the deputy prime minister?
Clarkson gets pied! - Dynamic Dave
AH
But Jeremy just smiled and commented on the taste, with a
smile. Perhaps a lesson for the deputy prime minister?


Which makes you wonder whether or not it was just a publicity stunt.
Clarkson gets pied! - No FM2R
Given that several threads have been closed lately for inane banter, irrelevance to motoring, or because nothing useful was being added, I am surprised that this thread has not been nuked for failing on all three tests ?
Clarkson gets pied! - Dynamic Dave
;0)
Clarkson gets pied! - No FM2R
Sorry, don't understand.
Clarkson gets pied! - Obsolete
I agree that JC came out smelling of roses, whereas the bunny huggers came out looking like a bunch of thugs.

I like JC, as he is entertaining, and some bunny huggers are irritating, but on climate change he's wrong. 99% of climate scientists believe that carbon dioxide levels are at unprecedented levels, and increasing, and that this is largely due to us. Cars make a minor contributution. Factories and houses are more important. Burning coal seams and burning forests in Indonesia are major contributors.

And yes, cows breaking wind make a significant contribution to climate change: methane is a far more potent greenhouse gas than CO2.

Car manufacturers are pinning their hopes on hydrogen fuelled cars. But a lot of hydrogen will no doubt escape into the atmosphere, and there are serious concerns about the effects, which are poorly understood. Some scientists believe that hydrogen is a greenhouse gas.

Dare I say that our problem is that we have come to expect that we can go from A to B whenever we want to (give or take a traffic jam or three), and we expect the latest food and products, shipped by lorry and plane from the other side of the world.

Personally I think we're stuffed. Oh well, I'd better buy that new car while I still can.

Leif

Clarkson gets pied! - Robin Reliant
Personally I wouldn't worry about climate change, and certainly not the effect motoring has on the planet. The day they split the atom the eternal clock started ticking. With the technology getting cheaper and more readily available it is only a matter of time before some screwball who believes the way to eternal paradise is to fry the human race and himself as well gets hold of the big one and pushes the button.

Meantime, carry on burning rubber pumping out those C02's, it won't matter a jot in the end.
Clarkson gets pied! - PhilW
"and we expect the latest food and products, shipped by lorry and plane from the other side of the world."
OK, this will get wiped as miles off topic, but while in the supermarket the other day (I drove there and filled up with petrol while there - motoring/fuel crisis/panic buying not, link) Out of interest I was looking at the price of French beans, runner beans and sweet corn. You might well ask why, well it's because I have been overwhelmed by those same products from my own garden and wished to feel smug at the prices others were paying for them. I was, because they were beans and sweet corn from Zambia, Kenya, Thailand and Vietnam - transported, no doubt at great cost to a country in the high season for their production. Why? (And don't go into comparitive/absolute advantage/Ricardian economic theories either!) Farmers' markets for me in future. Support your local producer and reduce global warming!!!!
Clarkson gets pied! - Dynamic Dave
Sorry, don't understand.


I was just smiling at your comment.
Clarkson gets pied! - Dynamic Dave
I was just smiling at your comment.


But as the global warming debate still continues, despite Hugo's earlier warning....

Thread locked.

DD.