Hi posted this yesterday but it got lost.
My sis is looking for a family diesel car.
54 plate, less than 15k miles, and around 11kish
Contenders so far are Passatt, and mondeo.
Any ideas on other models or why she should/shouldnt consider the ones above.
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May be slow in getting some responses as it will take folks a while to realise the site is back online.
Primera is a contender at the price/segment you suggest. Strong chain cam engine and reliable. For family motoring I've always been and advocate of hatchbacks rather than saloons due to the loading versatility, so that alone would count against the passat for me.
Sure there will be many vocal advocates of the Mondeo TDCi along any moment.
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I had a Passat 130 tdi. It broke down twice in first 2 years so I could n't recommend. Also you have to deal with VW dealers until out of warranty!
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I had a Passat 130 tdi. It broke down twice in first 2 years so I could n't recommend. Also you have to deal with VW dealers until out of warranty!
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Not sure that's true anymore is it? I thought owners were allowed to use independent garages and still maintain their warranty.
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I had a Passat 130 tdi. It broke down twice in first 2 years so I could n't recommend. Also you have to deal with VW dealers until out of warranty!
This must just be bad luck ! I've had 2 petrol Passats from new as company cars, and now I own a TDi 130 Audi A4 (which is mechanically similar to the Passat), my father has a 3 year old Passat TDi 100 and several work colleagues have Passats as company cars. Out of all of this I have not heard of any serious problems being encountered.
However I do agree that VW and for the large part Audi dealers are pink fluffy dice !!
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Well, I'll come on here and champion the Mondeo.
Just over a year ago I got (via Ford Direct) a 12 month old 2.0 130ps six-speed Diesel Ghia. It had 7K on the clock and I got it for less than £12K.
It goes like stonk, has all the bells and whistles, has a massive boot and more cabin room than the QE2.
Parts and servicing are cheap and easy to come by.
Now why would anyone want a Passat ?
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New shape Vectra 2.0 or 2.2, chain cam, 50+ mpg, you could get a really late low mileage top spec for that money,
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Mondeo will get you a newer car for the money. VW's a bit expensive in comparison.
I would suggest you get a copy of Diesel Car magazine and have a good look at the pages in the back, gives you the performance figures, economy and a lot more.
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New shape Vectra 2.0 or 2.2, chain cam, 50+ mpg, you could get a really late low mileage top spec for that money,
Vectra 1.9 CDTi's (the 150bhp engine) can now be obtained for the price jammods is willing to pay.
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I would support ND's suggestion of the Nissan Primera. Mine is a company vehicle so I can't advise on value but I certainly recommend it as a possibility. Easy to drive, plenty of toys to keep the boys happy, happy in traffic or on country roads or at speed on the motorway, decent fuel consumption and a boot you could get lost in. I wouldn't call her beautiful (but attractive in an unusual way) and she has absolutely no streetcred but that really wasn't what I was looking for.
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You may want to be cautious about buying anything which is "Euro 4" emissions compliant - every diesel has to be from 1/10/05 anyway but it is only optional now. I have a "Euro 4" Peugeot and I now find that it will cost me £700 to have the particle filter changed @ 72,000 miles. An expensive way to save a few £s a year on Road Tax IMHO!
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I would agree about particle filters and I am not looking forward to having to pay out for a replacement on our C5 in less than a year.
I usually wait in vain for a recommendation for a C5, so here I go again. A brand new 1.6 HDI can be had for about £12K and there will be loads of not very old ones for around £11K.
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I should have added that I am, nevertheless, hoping to pay a lot less than £700 for a replacement particle filter.
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Do the manufacturers effectively charge what they like for specialised items like these that have to be replaced on a periodic basis?
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I suppose they can charge what they like. Citroen have had a lot of bad reactions from customers over this matter and I find it particularly annoying, as they stated in the maintenance schedule that the particle filter could be cleaned. That may be the case but it cannot be cleaned by the dealers. I think that recycled, cleaned filters can be purchased for a lower price than new ones, at least, that is what I have been told.
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How will you get a particle filter 'on the cheap'? I shan't need one for 4 years and I bet they'll cost more then! At the moment some diesel Peugeots are coming off the production line without particle filters (either shortage of the part or the special fluid needed). This means that they they are being fitted with non-particle filter exhausts and I guess you could get one of those and have it fitted when the time comes.
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At the moment some diesel Peugeots are coming off the production line without particle filters (either shortage of the part or the special fluid needed). This means that they they are being fitted with non-particle filter exhausts and I guess you could get one of those and have it fitted when the time comes.
I would be interested to find out if that could be done with a car which is currently fitted with a particle filter. Any one in the forum know anything about it?
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Some Peugeots are coming off the production line now without particle filters because there is a shortage of either the filters or the fluid need to use in them. Thus it should be possible to buy, in the future, a non filter exhaust system. If the filters are £700 now what will they be in 4 years when I need one??!! Machika, how will you come by one at a keen price?
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Some Peugeots are coming off the production line now without particle filters because there is a shortage of either the filters or the fluid need to use in them. Thus it should be possible to buy, in the future, a non filter exhaust system. If the filters are £700 now what will they be in 4 years when I need one??!! Machika, how will you come by one at a keen price?
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See my previous post above.
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IIRC both the latest Honda and VAG 2.0 diesels have self cleaning filters, so no replacement necessary.
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My Brother ran a Skoda octavia TDI 110 estate as a company car for 3 years / 90k miles and was absolutely delighted with it.
The Octavia proved to be reliable, well built, comfortable, practical, and economical. Performance was more than adequate.
He has replaced it with a new shape Octavia TDI 140.
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- How about the Peugeot 407? Certainly looks a bit different to the mainstream and used ones seem to be available for under £12k. Peugeot diesels seem to have an excellent reputation.
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